Blazers, Bulls Discussed Aldridge For Noah During Offseason

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they probably wanted mirotic's rights as well.. we just don't know. and it would also be a slap on the face on pax when we could have had him. hopefully that cat's pick would turn out to be a stud.

[DJhitek]

I mean, I understand why some didn't want to give Noah and Butler and we all know Aldridge is bound for regression.

But guys like Aldridge are tough to get, and while Noah is fine, he can't ever be a second or third scoring option and a couple years ago Asik was the better defender and finishing games.


I think Noah can't be moved for good, good talent at the point IMO. Moving him wasn't some priority but the Bulls should have jumped at the chance to upgrade the offensive side of the ball. It is what it is.

[abide]

Still makes me laugh when people thought he was a little better than boozer....

[PMONSTER]

Still makes me laugh when people thought he was a little better than boozer....

Stuff like that makes you lose respect for posters

[Red Larrivee]

My stance was that trading Noah would leave us with no one to player center and that Aldridge was not a good enough to player to cover for that hole we would create. And it's still debatable that he actually is.
Like Dantown said, Aldridge is producing number's similar to his recent years in the league. Matthews, Batum's and Lillards improvements have also heavily contributed to the Blazers great season thus far.

Also the rumor was that Jimmy Butler would have had to be included, so that would have left two holes in our starting lineup.

Butler's inclusion was an assumption by K.C.. Even if it wasn't, you don't think Butler/Noah for a Top 3 PF is a good enough deal?

I mean, I always preferred Love over Aldridge, but still. I think we're overrating the value of some of our guys. I like Butler, but to this point he's pretty much an average rotation player. He's not irreplaceable.

[Chi town]

My stance was that trading Noah would leave us with no one to player center and that Aldridge was not a good enough to player to cover for that hole we would create. And it's still debatable that he actually is.
Like Dantown said, Aldridge is producing number's similar to his recent years in the league. Matthews, Batum's and Lillards improvements have also heavily contributed to the Blazers great season thus far.

Also the rumor was that Jimmy Butler would have had to be included, so that would have left two holes in our starting lineup.

Butler's inclusion was an assumption by K.C.. Even if it wasn't, you don't think Butler/Noah for a Top 3 PF is a good enough deal?

I mean, I always preferred Love over Aldridge, but still. I think we're overrating the value of some of our guys. I like Butler, but to this point he's pretty much an average rotation player.

I mostly agree but Jimmy hasn't had enough burn this year to really determine fully who he is yet.

I've always wanted Love over LMA as well.

A Noah swap for LMA would have been good and then I'm sure we cold have gotten Asik too. But we all know that it would have taken alot more to get LMA.

[dougthonus]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

[JackFinn]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

#101 site in the US and #279 globally. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bleacherreport.com

Everyone sucks.

[WinCity]

Tough call. Losing Noah for Aldridge does leave you a hole at center but a big upgrade at PF. In the end you have to take the upgrade as Aldridge has certainly performed like a second option should. Would have been so much easier had we held onto Asik...Gar strikes again

[DanTown8587]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

They're trying to become legit after the they were bought by I think AOL.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

B/R's been poaching national writers since the summer. It's part of their rebranding after the Turner acquisition. And judging by the frequency that B/R articles are posted on this forum lately, I'd say it's working. Just a couple years ago you'd have been laughed off the board for dropping their links.

[DanTown8587]

My stance was that trading Noah would leave us with no one to player center and that Aldridge was not a good enough to player to cover for that hole we would create. And it's still debatable that he actually is.
Like Dantown said, Aldridge is producing number's similar to his recent years in the league. Matthews, Batum's and Lillards improvements have also heavily contributed to the Blazers great season thus far.

Also the rumor was that Jimmy Butler would have had to be included, so that would have left two holes in our starting lineup.

Butler's inclusion was an assumption by K.C.. Even if it wasn't, you don't think Butler/Noah for a Top 3 PF is a good enough deal?

I mean, I always preferred Love over Aldridge, but still. I think we're overrating the value of some of our guys. I like Butler, but to this point he's pretty much an average rotation player. He's not irreplaceable.

There is a VAST difference between Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge. The raw stats would say there isn't but the fact the PER is over 5 points apart (27.9 v 22.7) and the TS is miles apart (.589 for Love, .515 for Aldridge) explains the gulf.

Really, Aldridge is a very good volume scorer and there is of course good value in that at the PF spot. My only point on Aldridge is that trading Noah, Butler (at the time), and then limiting Mirotic's value is basically an all-in move. Lets say Derrick isn't hurt, you're really telling me that

Rose/Hinrich
Snell
Deng/Dunleavy
Boozer/Gibson
Aldridge

Is a title winner? That team can't guard the Pacers now and against Miami, you're getting into a scoring battle with two guys are aren't efficient against three who are. You can't really let Deng walk, you're capped out, you have limited assets to get any sort of secondary ball handler.

I just don't see how going from Boozer to Aldridge makes up for the fact that you don't have a C and you're paying 40 million to guys at the PF/C spot and none of them are efficient scorers.

[dougthonus]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

B/R's been poaching national writers since the summer. It's part of their rebranding after the Turner acquisition. And judging by the frequency that B/R articles are posted on this forum lately, I'd say it's working. Just a couple years ago you'd have been laughed off the board for dropping their links.

Well, I don't think they poached Bucher per se, he never landed a gig at a respectable place after getting canned from ESPN did he?

I also can't say I've seen people posting bleacher report stuff frequently. I have noticed that google seems to have massively dumped their links, because I haven't come across them when searching in a long time. Either that or my off season searching is much different than my in-season searching.

[waffle]

Aldridge is just ONE OF THOSE guys on this board. Lots of fanboys. Has been since he was drafted

to me his is average. Good, but not elite.

Now I have always been a huge Noah supporter since before we drafted him.

so FOR ME I would never do this trade.

the one wild card is health. Gosh I hope Noah can stay healthy!

[Doom]

aldridge would sure help our problems...

[RedBulls23]

My stance was that trading Noah would leave us with no one to player center and that Aldridge was not a good enough to player to cover for that hole we would create. And it's still debatable that he actually is.
Like Dantown said, Aldridge is producing number's similar to his recent years in the league. Matthews, Batum's and Lillards improvements have also heavily contributed to the Blazers great season thus far.

Also the rumor was that Jimmy Butler would have had to be included, so that would have left two holes in our starting lineup.

Butler's inclusion was an assumption by K.C.. Even if it wasn't, you don't think Butler/Noah for a Top 3 PF is a good enough deal?

I mean, I always preferred Love over Aldridge, but still. I think we're overrating the value of some of our guys. I like Butler, but to this point he's pretty much an average rotation player. He's not irreplaceable.

Again, if it left us with no center, then yes it would be a bad trade. For example, if we had asik still, we could have done that noah for aldridge swap.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

B/R's been poaching national writers since the summer. It's part of their rebranding after the Turner acquisition. And judging by the frequency that B/R articles are posted on this forum lately, I'd say it's working. Just a couple years ago you'd have been laughed off the board for dropping their links.

Well, I don't think they poached Bucher per se, he never landed a gig at a respectable place after getting canned from ESPN did he?

I also can't say I've seen people posting bleacher report stuff frequently. I have noticed that google seems to have massively dumped their links, because I haven't come across them when searching in a long time. Either that or my off season searching is much different than my in-season searching.

No, you're right, Bucher was doing sideline reporting for the Warriors. But they did hire Howard Beck away from the NY Times along with some other guys with national reputations.

[kyrv]

I love that Aldridge is going to get a lot of the credit for Portland's great start when he's been a very similar player to what his career numbers suggest. The Blazers are getting amazing contributions from Matthews and Batum that they didn't get last year plus everything Robin Lopez has been compared to what they got from Hickson.

absolutely. that lamarcus aldridge is suddenly being talked about as one of the best players in the league is laughable. he's still primarily a jumpshooter and is having the worst shooting season of his eight year career

we already have 3 power forwards either here or in the pipeline. at no point did it make sense to trade for aldridge. still doesn't

merry xmas to all and to all a good night

Also, wasn't it Noah and stuff for Aldridge? I was certain it was Noah and goodies?

[kyrv]

Wow, Ric Bucher landed at the Bleacher Report?

He'll never write another article for ESPN.

[PaKii94]

I love that Aldridge is going to get a lot of the credit for Portland's great start when he's been a very similar player to what his career numbers suggest. The Blazers are getting amazing contributions from Matthews and Batum that they didn't get last year plus everything Robin Lopez has been compared to what they got from Hickson.

absolutely. that lamarcus aldridge is suddenly being talked about as one of the best players in the league is laughable. he's still primarily a jumpshooter and is having the worst shooting season of his eight year career

we already have 3 power forwards either here or in the pipeline. at no point did it make sense to trade for aldridge. still doesn't

merry xmas to all and to all a good night

Also, wasn't it Noah and stuff for Aldridge? I was certain it was Noah and goodies?

It was said to be atleast Noah, butler, cats pick.

I think blazers also were looking for mirotic too

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