Rumor: Bulls Looking at Martell Webster

[panthermark]

I have no clue what Minny would want...or what they are currently looking for....

[KeithBoothfan]

I heard Minny is looking for a PG, lol

lol? Maybe I'm not privvy to an inside joke here...

Running gag that has existed since the Flynn/Rubio PG draftapalooza.

...

In the end, don't see why the Wolves would deal with us - seems to me they'd either trade some of their duplicative talent in a 2 or 3 for 1 deal for a clear upgrade somewhere, or maybe ease the logjam in exchange for picks (though I don't think they'd want to get younger).

If it's the former, we only have Rose and Noah as clear upgrades over Flynn/Ridnour at PG, or Noah as an upgrade over Darko. Boozer plays Love's position for a lot more money. Deng plays Beasley (and to some extent Wes Johnson)'s position for more money and he's arguably not even a clear upgrade. We're not dealing Rose or Noah, so that's a non-starter.

If it's the latter, we have what is likely to be a pick in the early-mid 20s, or the Charlotte pick. I'd consider dealing our first, but certainly not the Cats pick, for Webster. Plus, we'd have to send them scraps they don't have room for and almost certainly wouldn't want, to make salaries match.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Re-Unite Dem Gator Boyz.

[john2jer]

I heard Minny is looking for a PG, lol

lol? Maybe I'm not privvy to an inside joke here...

Running gag that has existed since the Flynn/Rubio PG draftapalooza.

...

In the end, don't see why the Wolves would deal with us - seems to me they'd either trade some of their duplicative talent in a 2 or 3 for 1 deal for a clear upgrade somewhere, or maybe ease the logjam in exchange for picks (though I don't think they'd want to get younger).

If it's the former, we only have Rose and Noah as clear upgrades over Flynn/Ridnour at PG, or Noah as an upgrade over Darko. Boozer plays Love's position for a lot more money. Deng plays Beasley (and to some extent Wes Johnson)'s position for more money and he's arguably not even a clear upgrade. We're not dealing Rose or Noah, so that's a non-starter.

If it's the latter, we have what is likely to be a pick in the early-mid 20s, or the Charlotte pick. I'd consider dealing our first, but certainly not the Cats pick, for Webster. Plus, we'd have to send them scraps they don't have room for and almost certainly wouldn't want, to make salaries match.

Oh, so is this where I should counter with a Baby Bulls joke, something along the lines of the Bulls are in need of high school kids since their roster is filled with them? Wait, that's not true... Darn.

All kidding aside, the rest of your post was a perfect summary of why the Bulls/Wolves aren't good trade partners.

Ultimately the Wolves aren't going to be making a trade unless it's for a clear upgrade bringing back a #1 option(unlikely), or unless it's using cap space to pick up future assets, like the Eric Maynor/Utah/OKC trade last year.

[john2jer]

Re-Unite Dem Gator Boyz.

Corey Brewer is available, but I think it would be in a trade for future assets. Kind of like a useful expiring for a useless expiring and a late pick.

Chicago gives: Kurt Thomas, Brian Scalabrine, and future protected 1st
Sota gives: Corey Brewer

Something in that mold.

[organix85]

Why should we trade when they may....ummmm...whats the word?

*searches interwebz*

Contract is the word!

Yea, if they do that, we'll get Webster for freeeeeee!

/green

[funkatron101]

Why should we trade when they may....ummmm...whats the word?

*searches interwebz*

Contract is the word!

Yea, if they do that, we'll get Webster for freeeeeee!

/green

Stay out of it, Lebron.

[Jvaughn]

Webster's a pretty talented guy. Not known as a defensive player, but he has his moments. I saw him do an admirable job on Melo either last year or the year before. If he can be had for cheap I'd take him. Not at the expense of Taj though.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Re-Unite Dem Gator Boyz.

Corey Brewer is available, but I think it would be in a trade for future assets. Kind of like a useful expiring for a useless expiring and a late pick.

Chicago gives: Kurt Thomas, Brian Scalabrine, and future protected 1st
Sota gives: Corey Brewer

Something in that mold.

From the little I've seen of Brewer I know he's better than Bogans. I really like his length(NO HOMO) and I think he's more of a 2-way player than R.Brewer or Korver. I think under Thibodeau Corey could be special considering his physical tools.

What's up with Ellington? I watched every game of his at UNC and thought he would be better and playing more.

[shrink]

If we're talking the T-Pups I would be more interested in their Brewer or Ellington. I think over all they carry about the same value (maybe not Wayne) and I think we could get them on the cheap.

That seems easily arranged. With the investment this summer of our three 1sts in Wes Johnson, Martell Webster and Lazar Hayward, and then the addition of Beasley, its unlikely MIN will exercise its rights on Corey Brewer. There is also a rumor that Brewer was offered to move up in the draft.

Brewer has potential, and I think he leads the league in steals, but he just never seems to put it all together. Last season, the front office noticed a flaw in his jump that made him shoot off-balanced, and he had a remarkable turn-around in FG%, particularly shooting three's. He's got great athleticism and length, but he just doesn't pan out.

Webster's better, but I definitely agree that Brewer would be cheaper.

[Tyrusaurus]

Isn't this a sad tale? A ballboy with 36 posts with no credentials claim that he has source closed the ball organization which has informed him that we are now after Webster. The crazy **** is we are all fired up after that. The internet is really a great place, isn't it?

[JohnnyKILLroy]

If we're talking the T-Pups I would be more interested in their Brewer or Ellington. I think over all they carry about the same value (maybe not Wayne) and I think we could get them on the cheap.

That seems easily arranged. With the investment this summer of our three 1sts in Wes Johnson, Martell Webster and Lazar Hayward, and then the addition of Beasley, its unlikely MIN will exercise its rights on Corey Brewer. There is also a rumor that Brewer was offered to move up in the draft.

Brewer has potential, and I think he leads the league in steals, but he just never seems to put it all together. Last season, the front office noticed a flaw in his jump that made him shoot off-balanced, and he had a remarkable turn-around in FG%, particularly shooting three's. He's got great athleticism and length, but he just doesn't pan out.

Webster's better, but I definitely agree that Brewer would be cheaper.

I don't know how much better Webster is. I'm the type of person that probably over-emphasizes defense. That's why I feel they're overall values are about the same.

[shrink]

I have no clue what Minny would want...or what they are currently looking for....

MIN has a lot of youth and not enough minutes to develop them all. They would probably like future assets that don't require minutes, like a pick or a Euro. Expirings (2010 cap space) doesn't really help them - right now it looks like they will have to use their cap space by the trade deadline or else it will disappear. On the court, their biggest needs would be a PG who can run the show (they hope that's Rubio), an SG that can defend and maybe penetrate and dish, or a back-up defensive center. Still, I think they have most of their minutes accounted for this year, so the asset MIN would probably covet most is that CHA pick, since they will probably be losing their own in 2012 to LAC.

Right now they have been in discussions to move Telfair, or perhaps Ridnour, to EDIT (NYK). Like your boards, dreamers have focused on Iguodala, Monta Ellis and Mayo, for Kahn's "signature move" or trading their cap space to a team anxious to deal for Melo.

[shrink]

Isn't this a sad tale? A ballboy with 36 posts with no credentials claim that he has source closed the ball organization which has informed him that we are now after Webster. The crazy **** is we are all fired up after that. The internet is really a great place, isn't it?

I don't dismiss ballboys. Is this conversation outside the realm of possibility?

BULLS: "Gee, that's a little expensive for Stephen Jackson. I wonder if I could get a better deal out of that inept David Kahn, if I asked for Webst ..."

BOBS: "OK, OK .. maybe we were asking a little too much! How about ...?"

[Piecake]

What's up with Ellington? I watched every game of his at UNC and thought he would be better and playing more.

The dude's D is absolutely horrific. And that is saying something if he can't get any burn on our terrible defensive team.

As for the trade, we are just poor trade partners, and I dont see it happening. The only asset that you'd be willing to trade is the bobcat's first, but I doubt you'd give that up for Webster

I'd totally be willing to do some trade that involves Corey Brewer though