Ivica Dukan after another Euro Prospect

[boogydown]

John works with T9 I believe.

Meanwhile, what happened to the Bulls plan to draft Bojan?

[Tommy Udo 6]

I think getting talent in Europe is the best direction the Bulls can go.

- No immediate cap issues
- Future prospects constantly coming in

Also: Thibs doesnt play rookies anyway. Why draft and pay a Jimmy Butler if he isnt getting playing time? Use the pick on Euro talent

[Payt10]

Any time JOHN starts a thread, I expect Tommy Udo 6 to come and dismiss anything he says. I have no idea why you dislike the guy so much.

I believe JOHN created a similar thread years ago about some kid named Thabo Sefolosha before any of us on this board even heard of him.

I appreciate any info JOHN wishes to share with us, even if they don't happen to come to fruition. Same thing with Victor aka Tech9ine (sp?) from rumorpress, his info might not come true but I like to hear from him anyway.

Lol, It seems that way. I don't get it either.

[boogydown]

I think getting talent in Europe is the best direction the Bulls can go.

- No immediate cap issues
- Future prospects constantly coming in

Also: Thibs doesnt play rookies anyway. Why draft and pay a Jimmy Butler if he isnt getting playing time? Use the pick on Euro talent

Wasn't many Euros left after the 1st Round

John said the Bulls were looking into Bojan who we could have picked at #30. After Bojan, only one more Euro was left who isn't very good.

With all the vets wanting to come here though, I was surprised with the Butler being our #30 Pick. We need roster spots open.

[boogydown]

I wonder if the reason we decided to get Mirotic is because he was the last remaining Euro on the table that had upside. The Rockets drafting Donatas Motiejunas and maybe the Bulls panicked?

I actually like Donatas Motiejunas a lot.

[Bulls_Fan]

Tommy, you need to relax. You need to look internally and figure out what your problem with is JOHN. This has to be the 4th or 5th thread where you take potshots at JOHN.

Always questioning his info and sources. Are you jealous that he has a little inside info?

[BuffaloBull]

I wonder if the reason we decided to get Mirotic is because he was the last remaining Euro on the table that had upside. The Rockets drafting Donatas Motiejunas and maybe the Bulls panicked?

I actually like Donatas Motiejunas a lot.

That doesn't make any sense.

The Bulls liked Mirotic from the start, and the feeling was mutual. If I remember right, Mirotic himself said after the draft that in the leadup to things the Bulls told him that he was their guy, and they were going to take him.

A lot of observers thought Mirotic would pull out of the draft, but he stayed in. With that, plus his high buyout contract in place with Madrid, any team taking him had to do their homework, or risk a Fran Vasquez wasted pick.

The Bulls targeted him, then moved up to ensure they got him.

[P.C.]

I think getting talent in Europe is the best direction the Bulls can go.

- No immediate cap issues
- Future prospects constantly coming in

Also: Thibs doesnt play rookies anyway. Why draft and pay a Jimmy Butler if he isnt getting playing time? Use the pick on Euro talent

I'm not sure this is accurate. We have a small sample size, right? Asik got playing time; and quite frankly, Thibs did a better job of developing him than Scott Skiles -- whom I sincerely respect as a good coach -- ever did developing a rookie during his time with the Bulls.

The Bulls also had James Johnson, who was never going to pan out on the Bulls, and later drafted, Jimmy Butler who I question about being NBA ready. Late first round picks are a crap shoot, and just because Butler hasn't played much yet, doesn't mean that Thibs wouldn't play the right rookie -- like Asik -- a significant amount of time.

Jimmy Butler looks like a power forward wrapped in a shooting guard's body with some shooting guard skills to me. He may be a multiple year project. And just because he isn't getting minutes this season, doesn't mean that he would develop if he had minutes.

[Tommy Udo 6]

Tommy, you need to relax. You need to look internally and figure out what your problem with is JOHN. This has to be the 4th or 5th thread where you take potshots at JOHN.

Always questioning his info and sources. Are you jealous that he has a little inside info?

But what is wrong with questioning his sources? If someone posts something, are we supposed to accept it as fact without question?

I am not attacking him personally. I am only questioning his sources.

If I post something, I wouldn't be insulted if someone questioned it.

[DomoKun]

Dmitry Kulagin is a PG who was very impressive in this summer's U19 tournament. His game would translate well in the NBA, though maybe more as a SG than point.

[Wingy]

Ooh, compares to Penny Hardaway

I was a big fan when he and Shaq were busting up Ewing and the boys on what seemed like every Sunday on NBC.

If he's really that talented, I really don't see anyway we can sign him unless it's MLE, and I'm not so sure if you use that on someone who aren't sure will translate to the NBA.

[HomoSapien]

Tommy, you need to relax. You need to look internally and figure out what your problem with is JOHN. This has to be the 4th or 5th thread where you take potshots at JOHN.

Always questioning his info and sources. Are you jealous that he has a little inside info?

But what is wrong with questioning his sources? If someone posts something, are we supposed to accept it as fact without question?

I am not attacking him personally. I am only questioning his sources.

If I post something, I wouldn't be insulted if someone questioned it.

This. Has JOHN posted anything that has even materialized into a legit rumor?

[Salo23]

Has JOHN posted anything that has even materialized into a legit rumor?

Off the top of my head he broke Dukan scouting Thabo before anybody had even heard of the guy. When Thabo entered the draft we traded up 3 spots to secure his rights.

Deng for Pietrus + Gortat. Never happened but various news reports came out about this 'rumor' well after John posted it here first.

Not sure if he was the one who broke the Oberto talks or not.

There are others I can't recall right now, but just because things don't necessarily 'materialize' doesn't mean someone is just making things up or has bad sources.

If Anthony Morrow doesn't become a Bull does that mean Ralph07's source is full of it? No, he just said there were talks going on, not that Morrow was a lock to come here.

[Tommy Udo 6]

The Oberto story was first posted on the General NBA discussion Board based on a Spanish paper's article. JOHN started a thread on this Forum a few hours later about it.

The Deng for Pietrus & Gortat was a JOHN rumor. The Orlando Forum knew nothing of it & then they started a thread discussing JOHN's rumor. The Toronto Forum picked it up. Both Forums concluded that there is no other evidence of such a rumor except for JOHN's posting on Real RM.

But I wasn't accusing him of making up stuff. I have no doubt that the scout attended the game that he stated.

[HomoSapien]

Off the top of my head he broke Dukan scouting Thabo before anybody had even heard of the guy. When Thabo entered the draft we traded up 3 spots to secure his rights.

I don't think that's correct.

If Anthony Morrow doesn't become a Bull does that mean Ralph07's source is full of it? No, he just said there were talks going on, not that Morrow was a lock to come here.

It's certainly not that. Same with Tech9. People get mad about him posting rumors, but he's proven to have some sort of positive track record even if he hasn't broken anything in several years. JOHN on the other hand has yet to report anything that ever materialized into a real rumor and certainly hasn't reported anything that ever happened. That's why he has skeptics.