Asik Discussion. Pg 50 Sheridan: Bulls will match

[organix85]

Question----if they are trying to get dwight they need us and NYK to match--can we hold HOU Hostage on this one--try and get them to take Boozer for Lee + TPE or we won't match Asik.

They will have a D12 buddy--they are not getting CP3 anyway and they seem to be doing a lot of dumb moves anyway.

That would cost them the same as having Asik.

[organix85]

Matching Asik would cripple this organization and any plans for 2014 FA. Please don't do it.

I've flip flopped on the Asik proposal more than a presidential candidate. I see both sides of the argument- but in the end- what you wrote is an inescapable fact. I think they have to let him walk. Sucks and it was short sighted by Bulls management not to have locked him up last year with an extension- but I'd prefer he get overpaid by Houston- than get overpaid by the Bulls and cripple the maneuvering of a team desperate to avoid the luxury tax.

For christ's sake - he was a rookie last season. You can't extend a rookie. This is the very first time the Bulls are able to extend/offer him a contract.

People are bitching about the FO not doing things they aren't even allowed to do. Asik has been in Chicago all of two years.

If you want to bitch about something - bitch about them not trading him - thats at least a legit complaint (though i don't agree with it).

Gar: Here is your brand new 2 year deal, Omer... Welcome to the NBA. Please sign there and there... and a couple initials over there and there. When you're done with that, here is your 3 year extension. Follow the same steps please.

[organix85]

Do we really believe 2014 FA is going to unearth great things for us?

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I know we have burned multiple times, but you have to try. Hopefully by then Derrick wises up and starts actively recruiting.

There's no one to recruit.

[Jordan45822]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Jeremy Lin Watch: Reliably informed he's arrived at Rockets' summer-league HQ in Vegas to, as expected, begin process of signing offer sheet

looks like Houston will sign Lin to offer sheet today. So they probably wait til NY decides, to sign Asik to offer sheet.

[kyrv]

I don't agree at all, the Bulls built a contender in 2010 and at some point it's time to re-tool, Red is saying, tweaks this year and more in 2014. The success of FA is a crap shoot and doesn't mean they can repeat the successes of 2006 and 2010 but you can try, this time with an established team/coach/star. Those could all be pluses.

Kyrv, I'm speaking completely from Red's viewpoint.

He has, on numerous occasions, complained about how the Bulls were built to be regular season champs and that they are too depth reliant. Well, the team was built like that in large part due to how Paxon used our 2010 cap space. So if Red is going to make that complaint, he can't now use Paxon's cap space track record as a means of beefing up his retool argument. That's disingenuous.

Note: I thought this team was a championship contender and not just regular season champs.

Thanks for the clarification, but I think it's fair to note that the Bulls' Plan A was not to build around depth, they made the best use of the cards as they fell.

But I see what you are saying, if we are using 2014 to get the "second star" (TM), that's a cr*p shoot and I don't think 2010 proves it can be done (well doesn't prove it either way). I see what you mean there.

I think some people (not sure on Red) are specifically targeting Kevin Love, so that's different than just saying clear the decks and see who we can get. The FA lists are actually good names however seems most would likely stay and many will be pretty old by then - so it's not a great realistic list.

I'm not certain the Bulls aren't going for 2014 (random aside), and every year good players are traded that seems a more likely option (still of course not a given, everybody wants stars).

Edit - I hope the players are remembering this summer for the next talks. Not really a convincing show of "we don't have any money" by the league in general. And we may have that in 5 years which would absotively suck eggs.

[Jordan45822]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source says that Jeremy Lin has officially signed three-year, $25.1M offer sheet with the Rockets. Knicks will have three days to match.

Hopefully they sign Asik to offer sheet soon after this is over with

[Jordan45822]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Lin will get $5M in year one, $5.225M in year two and $14.898M in year three. Rockets hoped that will discourage NY, but Knicks will match.

similar to Asik I guess. Morey SMH

[TheAdmiral]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Per multiple reports, Houston has officially signed Lin to offer sheet. Asik expected to be signed once Knicks announce they're matching.

[Jordan45822]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Per multiple reports, Houston has officially signed Lin to offer sheet. Asik expected to be signed once Knicks announce they're matching.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Interesting that Lin and Asik are getting the same offer sheets. Thats going to be a hell of a tax year in NY in 2014. NY will have 80 million in salary tied up in 4 players. Not that it matters to them, but still interesting.

[TheAdmiral]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Lin offer sheet is same as what Asik's will be: $5M in Year 1, $5.225M in Year 2 and $14.898M in final year. Bulls have gone back and forth.

[Jordan45822]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
Lin offer sheet is same as what Asik's will be: $5M in Year 1, $5.225M in Year 2 and $14.898M in final year. Bulls have gone back and forth.

[Jordan45822]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
If so, Asik offer sheet not until nxt wk. RT @HowardBeckNYT: Expect Knicks to take full 3 days to match. Standard operating procedure inNBA.

[Bruteque]

K.C Johnson ‏@KCJHoop
If so, Asik offer sheet not until nxt wk. RT @HowardBeckNYT: Expect Knicks to take full 3 days to match. Standard operating procedure inNBA.

It's not always the case.

Get it done, NYK!

However, you have to take into consideration that Houston has actually increased their agreed upon offer with Lin that NYK said they would match. The original agreed upon proposal was $28/4. The one he actually signed is identical to the Asik offer.

Who knows? Maybe NYK doesn't match?

Nah. They don't care how much tax they pay.

[dice]

on to the second 100 pages of omer asik discussion!

[SDBearsFan]

on to the second 100 pages of omer asik discussion!

No kidding...

[fleet]

on to the second 100 pages of omer asik discussion!

set it off