The Nikola Mirotic Thread pt II - MERGED

[NDave79]

My initial impression was why nobody ever compared him to Antawn Jamison. I didn't know much about him at the time. But could be. Taller though. Probably a degree better 3 point shooter. And will have better defensive stats.

My memory might just be hazy, but I can't recall Jamison doing nearly as much stuff attacking the rim off the bounce where he is equally likely to score (or get fouled) or find the open man. When I think of Jamison, I think of assisted outside jumpers and a game from about 12 feet and in that consists of post ups and, awkward leaners and off balanced shots (which he was quite comfortable with).

[madvillian]

My initial impression was why nobody ever compared him to Antawn Jamison. I didn't know much about him at the time. But could be. Taller though. Probably a degree better 3 point shooter. And will have better defensive stats.

My memory might just be hazy, but I can't recall Jamison doing nearly as much stuff attacking the rim off the bounce where he is equally likely to score (or get fouled) or find the open man. When I think of Jamison, I think of assisted outside jumpers and a game from about 12 feet and in that consists of post ups and, awkward leaners and off balanced shots (which he was quite comfortable with).

Young Jamison was completely different than old Jamison. It's an awful comparison anyways as Jamison was an undersized three/four tweener that never really had a position he could effectively guard. Niko has good size for a 4 and can even play some 5.

Eventually he'll be able to guard most 4s and some 5s. That's a far cry from Jamison, who was undersized against most 4s and overquicked by most 3s.

Now, Jamison was a very good scorer, but that's all he really was. He was valuable in his prime as a guy you could tell to "go get buckets" and he would. In the end of his career he was pretty much a spot up guy that retained some of his craftiness around the basket as his athleticism faded.

Niko will probably never score as well as Jamison in his peak, but he will provide more overall value, just because in a couple years he should be a solid defender and a pretty damn good rebounder. He's already a solid rebounder, something Jamison never was.

[NDave79]

My initial impression was why nobody ever compared him to Antawn Jamison. I didn't know much about him at the time. But could be. Taller though. Probably a degree better 3 point shooter. And will have better defensive stats.

My memory might just be hazy, but I can't recall Jamison doing nearly as much stuff attacking the rim off the bounce where he is equally likely to score (or get fouled) or find the open man. When I think of Jamison, I think of assisted outside jumpers and a game from about 12 feet and in that consists of post ups and, awkward leaners and off balanced shots (which he was quite comfortable with).

Young Jamison was completely different than old Jamison.

Yeah, I guess I didn't see to much of Jamison's early years.

[fleet]

My initial impression was why nobody ever compared him to Antawn Jamison. I didn't know much about him at the time. But could be. Taller though. Probably a degree better 3 point shooter. And will have better defensive stats.

My memory might just be hazy, but I can't recall Jamison doing nearly as much stuff attacking the rim off the bounce where he is equally likely to score (or get fouled) or find the open man. When I think of Jamison, I think of assisted outside jumpers and a game from about 12 feet and in that consists of post ups and, awkward leaners and off balanced shots (which he was quite comfortable with).

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You probably make accurate observations. No players are that comparable. They are all giant snowflakes. He had some expansion range at differnt career points. Mirotic should be a better rim attacker and you can run some offense through him as well. It is hard to find all encompassing comparisons.

[madvillian]

Personally I still think that Dirk is the best Mirotic comparison.

He has literally a 1% chance to ever be as good as Dirk but as far as their skillset, it's pretty damn similar IMO. 80% of Dirk is still a helluva player, an All-Star, and I think that Mirotic will have seasons where he puts up 20/8/3 and makes an All-Star team.

[NDave79]

My initial impression was why nobody ever compared him to Antawn Jamison. I didn't know much about him at the time. But could be. Taller though. Probably a degree better 3 point shooter. And will have better defensive stats.

My memory might just be hazy, but I can't recall Jamison doing nearly as much stuff attacking the rim off the bounce where he is equally likely to score (or get fouled) or find the open man. When I think of Jamison, I think of assisted outside jumpers and a game from about 12 feet and in that consists of post ups and, awkward leaners and off balanced shots (which he was quite comfortable with).

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You probably make accurate observations. No players are that comparable. They are all giant snowflakes. He had some expansion range at differnt career points. Mirotic should be a better rim attacker and you can run some offense through him as well. It is hard to find all encompassing comparisons.

Well if by some chance I am correct in this situation (not saying that I am), then it only makes us even due to my stance that McDermott had figured out Thibodeau's defense in preseason.

[Jstock12]

Personally I still think that Dirk is the best Mirotic comparison.

He has literally a 1% chance to ever be as good as Dirk but as far as their skillset, it's pretty damn similar IMO. 80% of Dirk is still a helluva player, an All-Star, and I think that Mirotic will have seasons where he puts up 20/8/3 and makes an All-Star team.

Somewhere in between Bargnani and Dirk is very doable.

[bullsRlife]

The guy rebounds suprising well for a thinish, non leaping perimeter player.

Heart, hustle, and soon to be some added muscle in the off season. The guy is scrappy as hell, and never scared.

He rebounds well because he's mobile and has really long arms. He also had some excellent closeouts and contests on Aldridge last night and was able to maintain position in the post (unlike some guy who's supposed to be DPOY). He's shaping up to be a very versatile piece and definitely shouldn't be looked at strictly as an offensive role player,

Yeah he's gonna be a beast.

[Evil_Headband]

The Ryan Anderson comparison that has been made seems most apt to me. Maybe Mirotic''s a bit quicker and Anderson's a bit of a better shooter but that's basically what the Bulls have here.

[TheGameChanger]

Upgraded Ryan Anderson is the perfect comparison in my book.

[logical_art]

He's much more talented than Ryan Andreson. I'd be disappointed if that's how he turns out.

[Bulls69]

Personally I still think that Dirk is the best Mirotic comparison.

He has literally a 1% chance to ever be as good as Dirk but as far as their skillset, it's pretty damn similar IMO. 80% of Dirk is still a helluva player, an All-Star, and I think that Mirotic will have seasons where he puts up 20/8/3 and makes an All-Star team.

To be honest I remember Dirk sucking his first few years in the NBA I never like to compare players because it's not fair to Mirotic

[GimmeDat]

Ryan Anderson was the sort of comparison I had in terms of production before he came over, though I do think there's a few stylistic differences to their games.

He's his own player, but I think it's fair to say he's what Bargnani should have been. He's definitely not soft, that's for sure, and his rebounding has been really impressive.

Got a ways to go, but the promise is undeniable. He's playing simple, fundamental basketball and putting points up with ease, and I still feel he has more offensive versatility up his sleeve for him to refine and put into practice.

[ReturnofMVP3]

Added this guy to my fantasy team last night. Hoping he can keep up production with his expected minute increase.

[Leto]

He has impressed me with his ability to shoot and create off the dribble. He seems to have great court awareness and has shown he looks to find his team mates when he gets into the lane diming Taj and others for lay ups and dunks.

What he has to do is stop gambling so much on defense. He seems to have pretty good quickness, so I think he'll be fine guarding PFs. He must get stronger--and he will.

I can see why the FO is so exicted about Niko because I love the guy.

[pb-ceo]

I like his toughness. he's what they call a bad mofo. and that's a good thing. he's got a nasty streak in him. he's a don't mess with player. competitive as hell. talent. garpax done real good.

[PowerBull]

No Rashard Lewies camparisons when he was with the Sonics?

[Mbrahv0528]

Personally I still think that Dirk is the best Mirotic comparison.

He has literally a 1% chance to ever be as good as Dirk but as far as their skillset, it's pretty damn similar IMO. 80% of Dirk is still a helluva player, an All-Star, and I think that Mirotic will have seasons where he puts up 20/8/3 and makes an All-Star team.

To be honest I remember Dirk sucking his first few years in the NBA I never like to compare players because it's not fair to Mirotic

Dirk never "sucked" his first few years in the NBA. A 15 second google search could have told you that, come on now..

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[wonderboy2]

I watched alot of Mirotic over the past 2 years. I warned this board multiple times over the summer about Mirotic ability. I repeated over and over that Mirotic is a quicker Ryan Anderson with better handle. i also said that Miroric is better than Mcdermott and people wanted my head for that. People on here was saying that Mirotic was slow and that he was not a good ball-handler. All i could do was smh because I knew people was just going off stereotypes and had not watch him play. I hope the majority of the posters on this board learn from thier mistakes by ACTUALY WATCHING a player play before making thier opinion.

[Stratmaster]

The only concern I ever had with Niko, early on (and before I had watched much film) was his size at the 4. However, he seems to be managing just fine on the boards, and he is only going to get stronger as he keeps hitting the weights. I'm all in on continuing his development at an accelerated pace. Niko could be the offensive weapon the Bulls are lacking with Rose on the bench. The faster he becomes comfortable the less reliant the Bulls are on Rose.