Post#592 » by art_barbie » Sun Oct 4, 2015 7:55 pm
There are a couple of things that get lost in the derrick rose (debate) for lack of a better word.
1. The Chicago Bulls are not winning a championship this year, or next year, or likely the year after unless the top 3 teams implode or have major injury issues. But we are close. We are in that group of teams in the East that can get to the finals and lose if Lebron has an injury.
2. So its essentially a developmental year of sorts. its not an A to B development, rather a B to C development. If we were cleveland and Rose was Lebron we could forgive nearly all of this except the rape allegations(if they are true). So it comes down to who do you want to watch? Who do you want your team to develop? because Rose is no longer our difference maker...not the Rose of the last 4 years...and sorry but I dont think MVP Rose exists anymore... MVP Rose, IMO, only existed in an Iversonian platform where Rose knew all the shots and usage was his to take and allowed him to get comfortable to have the efficiency he had. If you lower the usage then his efficiency plummets. Not unlike many players Niko included as he showed last year, you give Niko the touches and he gets more efficient. But like Rose, Niko is no Lebron. No MJ. NO Steph. And if you are not then you must be able to paly off the ball in order to be championship calibre. You've got to be able to space the floor for teamates and make open shots on kick outs.
Besides that we already know that the Iversonian model doesn't work. You cant win it all with it. Not in this league and definitely not anymore and certainly not right now. There are too many teams with too many weapons for any player to win with on the Iversonian platform. Micheal frickin Jordan couldn't win more than 42 games and lose in the 1st or second round (both sweeps) in the same model.
3. Derrick Rose's intelligence keeps getting brought up in all of these threads. he aint that dumb. you cant be on your way to half a billion dollars and be dumb. Its not possible. But he aint that brite either nor does he...ummm...what's the expression?...yeah...give a funk. he just doesn't care what you or I think, AT ALL. And we are the most hardcore of Bulls fans...He feels that his $2-300 million that he "earned" on your sponsorship and viewership is above what you think. His actions show that he feels like he is the king and you are the peasant. In his vacuum, we all exist as pawns to manipulate to maximize his earnings. And there are many wealthy people that see it that way and many that dont. But thats what all his actions and words suggest, he is the type to see it that way. And thats where his intelligence does come into play...why does he not see the importance of having good equity with his/bulls fan base? I have my own conjecture and theories to save for another day but either way it begs the question...how can this guy be the floor general to take us from B to C? Why should we want him to be the guy that we give the floor time to help this team get from B to C? Because of his 49% TS%?? Because he is so endearing to the chicago bulls fan base? because of his 6 apg? because of his 29 3PT%? because of all the clutch FT he has missed at crucial times costing us reg season and playoff games? because of the time he was a healthy scratch?? In the playoffs for that matter? When all we needed was 10 mpg at 70% and we would have likely won that playoff series not lost it?? Because of his "i got a family to feed" to moment??
I'll say it again, we are not winning it all this year and we as a fanbase know this. we know we wont be far enough along next or the year after and in those next 2 years we will likely be likely be losing Gasol, Likely Noah, Possibly Taj, and what I'm going to predict likely losing Rose as well.
SO why on earth, in Gods name, for the love of Jesus, why would we gave these next 2 years of development to Rose? In my mind its high time to fluff up Rose's trade value (and I hope thats what Sam Smith is doing) move him along.
Our team is soooooo good right now at all positions that all we need from our PG is a young Kirk Hinrich type player and we could be a 65 win team. We truly just need a 3 and D PG and thats it. A guy that can bring the ball up, run the offense and space the floor for all of our other talents and mostly just play great defense. We get that and we go from B to C overnight.
And thats what Rose just isn't. he has NO 3 and NO D. IMO, Rose is the opposite of what we need. Jimmy, Niko, and pau are more than capable of scoring for us in the last 2-3 minutes of the game at Rose TS% or better especially with a PG on the court that can actually catch and shoot to make shots or space the floor. And if we had a young Hinrich type PG then it would allow for guys like Snell, and Doug to develop as well...you get those 2 guys developed and confident, with MDJ coming back and making 40%3pt shots as well as Jimmy, pau, and Niko doing there thing with taj and Noah playing aggressive defense with a young Kirk type and Jimmy on the wings and this team is going to compete this year.
Rose being here only prolongs the inevitable. and the longer that inevitable is prolonged the older gasol and Noah get. Taj. As well as their contracts coming up and might not be renewed.
