2015 NCAA Basketball/Draft Prospect Thread - Merged

[MC3]

I really don't know what the hell I want anymore. We have too many damn forwards on this team and badly need a legit backup PG that can start in the pipeline. But does that equate to best player available at #14 depending on how the draft could fall? I can understand needing help at C if Noah isn't back (I have a feeling he is coming back) but who is that player?

I'm terrified GarPax will fall in love with Denzel Valentine and we will have yet another slow, unathletic wing that we have to hide on defense.

Chills running through my body, shivering down my spine.

But anything, slow unathletic or below the rim mentioned by realgm users gives me that. I am still having nightmares from watching Bulls last season. Our second best dunker in season was Doug Mcdermott. Chills man.

[Paxson43]

I really don't know what the hell I want anymore. We have too many damn forwards on this team and badly need a legit backup PG that can start in the pipeline. But does that equate to best player available at #14 depending on how the draft could fall? I can understand needing help at C if Noah isn't back (I have a feeling he is coming back) but who is that player?

I'm terrified GarPax will fall in love with Denzel Valentine and we will have yet another slow, unathletic wing that we have to hide on defense.

Chills running through my body, shivering down my spine.

But anything, slow unathletic or below the rim mentioned by realgm users gives me that. I am still having nightmares from watching Bulls last season. Our second best dunker in season was Doug Mcdermott. Chills man.

Yeah, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what, but if you have a defensive plan for a roster that already has McDermott and Mirotic primed to get big minutes, please, by all means, let me know how you plan on incorporating Denzel Valentine.

[MC3]

I really don't know what the hell I want anymore. We have too many damn forwards on this team and badly need a legit backup PG that can start in the pipeline. But does that equate to best player available at #14 depending on how the draft could fall? I can understand needing help at C if Noah isn't back (I have a feeling he is coming back) but who is that player?

I'm terrified GarPax will fall in love with Denzel Valentine and we will have yet another slow, unathletic wing that we have to hide on defense.

Chills running through my body, shivering down my spine.

But anything, slow unathletic or below the rim mentioned by realgm users gives me that. I am still having nightmares from watching Bulls last season. Our second best dunker in season was Doug Mcdermott. Chills man.

Yeah, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what, but if you have a defensive plan for a roster that already has McDermott and Mirotic primed to get big minutes, please, by all means, let me know how you plan on incorporating Denzel Valentine.

It wasnt sarcastic post. 100% true. If Doug is your second best offensive athlete on a team this team has serious problems with athleticism and playing above the rim. We know when we drafted him what he is, but I never ever expected him to be top 5, let alone top 2 in something which wasnt ever his game. This team needs athletes. Not just good athletes but great ones (above average height for position, wingspan, lenght, motor with dunking and leaping ability). And I get shivers when I hear Denzel or Sabonis.

[Rhyder78]

Chills running through my body, shivering down my spine.

But anything, slow unathletic or below the rim mentioned by realgm users gives me that. I am still having nightmares from watching Bulls last season. Our second best dunker in season was Doug Mcdermott. Chills man.

Yeah, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what, but if you have a defensive plan for a roster that already has McDermott and Mirotic primed to get big minutes, please, by all means, let me know how you plan on incorporating Denzel Valentine.

It wasnt sarcastic post. 100% true. If Doug is your second best offensive athlete on a team this team has serious problems with athleticism and playing above the rim. We know when we drafted him what he is, but I never ever expected him to be top 5, let alone top 2 in something which wasnt ever his game. This team needs athletes. Not just good athletes but great ones (above average height for position, wingspan, lenght, motor with dunking and leaping ability). And I get shivers when I hear Denzel or Sabonis.

If you think Doug is the second best dunker on last year's team, Taj Gibson, Jimmy Butler, Pau Gasol, Cristiano Felicio, Justin Holiday, Bobby Portis and Joakim Noah would all disagree.

I do not understand fans who think developing someone into a good player who has no to limited basketball skills is easier than someone who already is skilled in his own body. Is it prettier to watch the guy who sucks do something unexpected than a fundamentally sound guy do something you expect out of him?

Tony Snell is an athlete. He has absolutely no handles or court awareness, but pick him because he looks the part.

[realEAST]

Yeah, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what, but if you have a defensive plan for a roster that already has McDermott and Mirotic primed to get big minutes, please, by all means, let me know how you plan on incorporating Denzel Valentine.

It wasnt sarcastic post. 100% true. If Doug is your second best offensive athlete on a team this team has serious problems with athleticism and playing above the rim. We know when we drafted him what he is, but I never ever expected him to be top 5, let alone top 2 in something which wasnt ever his game. This team needs athletes. Not just good athletes but great ones (above average height for position, wingspan, lenght, motor with dunking and leaping ability). And I get shivers when I hear Denzel or Sabonis.

If you think Doug is the second best dunker on last year's team, Taj Gibson, Jimmy Butler, Pau Gasol, Cristiano Felicio, Justin Holiday, Bobby Portis and Joakim Noah would all disagree.

I do not understand fans who think developing someone into a good player who has no to limited basketball skills is easier than someone who already is skilled in his own body. Is it prettier to watch the guy who sucks do something unexpected than a fundamentally sound guy do something you expect out of him?

Tony Snell is an athlete. He has absolutely no handles or court awareness, but pick him because he looks the part.

I'd say that is job of a good scout, to distinguish between Snells and LaVines. And yes, picking talented athletically gifted guy can in that case be very rewarding.

[R3AL1TY]

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[MC3]

Giggity.

[Proven_Winner]

I'm crossing my fingers for deyonta Davis and cat barber at our pick.

[Benedict Miller]

Man if we can get Davis that would be awesome

[MC3]

Man if we can get Davis that would be awesome

I hope we buy picks so we get couple of guys if we can get Davis. Boston has two lottery picks after #3, and 3 more in 2nd round. I dont think they can draft them all and sign them. If we could buy some would be nice.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

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If we go big then what? I have no idea where this roster is going.

[Leslie Forman]

Everyone is down on Valentine yet he seems like an absolute lock to me to end up being a steal of a pick. A wing averaging 8 assists a game in college? That's crazy. That's skill that's hard to come by.

[Proven_Winner]

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If we go big then what? I have no idea where this roster is going.

Could mean that jo, pau, or both may be gone. We do need defense and athleticism and Davis brings that a young age. Definitely not a bad pick at 14.

[GimmeDat]

I think I've decided I like Zubac over Davis. More size, and more offensive potential. I really do like Davis but there's a strong chance he becomes a defensive big ala Ed Davis or John Henson if he doesn't expand his offensive game. Not bad, but I think Zubac will be a starter.

This article came out 5 hours ago by the looks of it, and from what I can gather via google translate Zubac had 31 points.

https://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/mega-stotkom-zgazila-borac-razgoropadio-se-ivica-zubac/136384

[Benedict Miller]

I think I've decided I like Zubac over Davis. More size, and more offensive potential. I really do like Davis but there's a strong chance he becomes a defensive big ala Ed Davis or John Henson if he doesn't expand his offensive game. Not bad, but I think Zubac will be a starter.

You're absolutely right about Zubac. I didn't know Zubac was available for this year's draft.

[GimmeDat]

I think I've decided I like Zubac over Davis. More size, and more offensive potential. I really do like Davis but there's a strong chance he becomes a defensive big ala Ed Davis or John Henson if he doesn't expand his offensive game. Not bad, but I think Zubac will be a starter.

You're absolutely right about Zubac. I didn't know Zubac was available for this year's draft.

He said if he gets drafted he'll come straight over as well. He's not mocked as a lottery pick right now but I think he'll rise, and the Bulls especially do a good job of scouting Euro's. It's promising that Chad Ford said he was on our shortlist as well.

[Proven_Winner]

I think I've decided I like Zubac over Davis. More size, and more offensive potential. I really do like Davis but there's a strong chance he becomes a defensive big ala Ed Davis or John Henson if he doesn't expand his offensive game. Not bad, but I think Zubac will be a starter.

This article came out 5 hours ago by the looks of it, and from what I can gather via google translate Zubac had 31 points.

https://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/mega-stotkom-zgazila-borac-razgoropadio-se-ivica-zubac/136384

Well zubac seems to be the opposite of Davis. While zubac is better offensively he needs to get a lot better defensively. Also from what I read he relies on his athleticism but he's always hurt and he's not even 20! That's a bit scary.

I think both can be good but both equally have flaws. For the Bulls though you can deal more with Davis's flaws because his strengths are something we sorely need. Zubac wouldn't be bad but we desperately need at least a guy who is a threat at the rim on defense.

[MC3]

I love Bulls interest for Zubac as Croat myself. On other hand if he is bust I'll sure 'enjoy' game thread comments. lol

[Benedict Miller]

I think I've decided I like Zubac over Davis. More size, and more offensive potential. I really do like Davis but there's a strong chance he becomes a defensive big ala Ed Davis or John Henson if he doesn't expand his offensive game. Not bad, but I think Zubac will be a starter.

This article came out 5 hours ago by the looks of it, and from what I can gather via google translate Zubac had 31 points.

https://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/mega-stotkom-zgazila-borac-razgoropadio-se-ivica-zubac/136384

Well zubac seems to be the opposite of Davis. While zubac is better offensively he needs to get a lot better defensively. Also from what I read he relies on his athleticism but he's always hurt and he's not even 20! That's a bit scary.

I think both can be good but both equally have flaws. For the Bulls though you can deal more with Davis's flaws because his strengths are something we sorely need. Zubac wouldn't be bad but we desperately need at least a guy who is a threat at the rim on defense.

Good post

[JohnnyKILLroy]

I would rather have Zizic than Zubac.

I would rank them

Davis
Zizic
Zubac