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RSP83 · Post #1721 » by **RSP83** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:23 pm

Speaking of the Knicks, their rookie Hernangomez is a nice talent. He's like baby Marc Gasol out there. Porzingis & Hernangomez is going to be a really good combo in the future.

sco · Post #1722 » by **sco** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:44 pm

Nets waived Budinger. I used to like that guy. How bad must he be?

kyrv · Post #1723 » by **kyrv** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:51 pm

sco wrote:Nets waived Budinger. I used to like that guy. How bad must he be?

I was wondering that too. Always liked him as a deep bench specialist.

sco · Post #1724 » by **sco** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:52 pm

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sources-kings-heat-discuss-trade-involving-gay-collison-dragic/

The Sacramento Kings and Miami Heat have discussed a trade of Rudy Gay and Darren Collison for Goran Dragic, league sources told Basketball Insiders.

“Sacramento has to trade Gay,” an Eastern Conference executive told Basketball Insiders. “He’s already informed them he doesn’t like it there. They can’t let him walk for nothing.”

sco · Post #1725 » by **sco** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:54 pm

That would be a big win for Sacto!

Gay and Collison are meh. Dragic would be a good fit with Boogie.

I'm still pining for Casspi if a deal can be done.

Post #1726 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:25 am

There was a wiretap about discussions for Cameron Payne for Rudy Gay as well.

MC3 · Post #1727 » by **MC3** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:30 am

GimmeDat wrote:There was a wiretap about discussions for Cameron Payne for Rudy Gay as well.

Bulls were high on Payne coming into draft. Even more than Grant. There was also report Gar scouted him personally. I think they even considered moving up if he felt a bit or go where he was projected to go (as his stocks raised up during workout). And promised to draft him. But he didnt pass OKC.

Shame if he is available in trade talks as Bulls already have 5 pgs

Post #1728 » by **pduh01** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:03 am

Watching Joakim Noah in a different uniform is wierd to me and more wierd watching him wearing a Knicks uniform. Wishing him the best .

Flopper · Post #1729 » by **Flopper** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:39 am

pduh01 wrote:Watching Joakim Noah in a different uniform is wierd to me and more wierd watching him wearing a Knicks uniform. Wishing him the best .

He and Porzingis look really good on the floor together already and there's definitely a synergy with their skill sets. Health concerns aside, if Rose and Melo can find a way to integrate themselves without dominating the ball too often they have a real nice squad over there.

MrSparkle · Post #1730 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:56 pm

Side note, Brand announced retirement.

The first great hope of the post-Jordan era has ended his career. Kinda crazy we lucked into a #1 pick after 1 tank and made nothing of it.

Axxo · Post #1731 » by **Axxo** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:29 pm

sco wrote:Nets waived Budinger. I used to like that guy. How bad must he be?

We need shooting so howabout it? Move a someone to the d'league to make room.

kyrv · Post #1732 » by **kyrv** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:39 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Side note, Brand announced retirement.

The first great hope of the post-Jordan era has ended his career. Kinda crazy we lucked into a #1 pick after 1 tank and made nothing of it.

Not that crazy, in fact that's the norm. Very few #1 overall picks lead the drafting team to a title.

MrSparkle · Post #1733 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:50 pm

kyrv wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:Side note, Brand announced retirement.

The first great hope of the post-Jordan era has ended his career. Kinda crazy we lucked into a #1 pick after 1 tank and made nothing of it.

Not that crazy, in fact that's the norm. Very few #1 overall picks lead the drafting team to a title.

Indeed.

It was my recurring point during the "trade Jimmy" discussions.

Although Brand was almost as good a #1 pick as any. A tier below the generational superstars like Duncan/Lebron/Shaq, but still a guy you could've built a playoff team around.

Unlike Kandi Man. :lol:

kyrv · Post #1734 » by **kyrv** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:00 am

MrSparkle wrote:
kyrv wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:Side note, Brand announced retirement.

The first great hope of the post-Jordan era has ended his career. Kinda crazy we lucked into a #1 pick after 1 tank and made nothing of it.

Not that crazy, in fact that's the norm. Very few #1 overall picks lead the drafting team to a title.

Indeed.

It was my recurring point during the "trade Jimmy" discussions.

Although Brand was almost as good a #1 pick as any. A tier below the generational superstars like Duncan/Lebron/Shaq, but still a guy you could've built a playoff team around.

Unlike Kandi Man.

Yep I would say Brand was well above average. Artest/Brand/Miller was a decent 3 to 5, they should have sucked less. :0

Post #1735 » by **GimmeDat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:53 am

Read on Twitter

This is the most I've seen Tony Snell talk in my life.

MC3 · Post #1736 » by **MC3** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:21 pm

tony snell can talk? and he is giving advice to a franchise player :O

red capes are coming

FriedRise · Post #1737 » by **FriedRise** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:47 pm

In other news, Noah's looking really good in NY. Very active, comfortable, and confident offensively to a point that he's actually driving and making his layups. That's probably the player we were gonna get last season before he went down for the shoulder injury (and of course, if Fred hadn't benched him in his contract year.. having to start Gasol really screwed up a lot of things, didn't it?).

Watch on YouTube

Tying it back to our team, I feel like we should use Lopez in a similar capacity. Inverted offense with him more on the outside pulling opposing C's out of the paint and our Alphas cutting. RoLo is not as good of a passer as Noah (though a better screener), but he's shown that he can make those 15-17 footers so they kinda have to respect his jumper.

It won't be as open as what the Knicks have (Melo/Porzingis are much better outside shooters than Butler/Taj), but it's still one way to help with the spacing.

sco · Post #1738 » by **sco** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:05 pm

FriedRise wrote:In other news, Noah's looking really good in NY. Very active, comfortable, and confident offensively to a point that he's actually driving and making his layups. That's probably the player we were gonna get last season before he went down for the shoulder injury (and of course, if Fred hadn't benched him in his contract year.. having to start Gasol really screwed up a lot of things, didn't it?).

Watch on YouTube

Tying it back to our team, I feel like we should use Lopez in a similar capacity. Inverted offense with him more on the outside pulling opposing C's out of the paint and our Alphas cutting. RoLo is not as good of a passer as Noah (though a better screener), but he's shown that he can make those 15-17 footers so they kinda have to respect his jumper.

It won't be as open as what the Knicks have (Melo/Porzingis are much better outside shooters than Butler/Taj), but it's still one way to help with the spacing.

With our poor shooting, I think a good part of our offense will need to be the offensive put-back tip-ins...pulling Rolo away from rim too far will limit this.

Axxo · Post #1739 » by **Axxo** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:29 pm

Who in the heck would trade for Mo Williams?
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/243704/Cavs-Shopping-Mo-Williams-In-Hopes-Of-Roster-Spot-Tax-Savings

MrSparkle · Post #1740 » by **MrSparkle** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:40 pm

Well, at the end of the day, much like Rondo/Wade were smart low-risk/high-reward risk for us, I maintain that Rose/Noah were pretty wise gambles by Phil. The only hesitation I'd have is that 4 years is a hell of a lot of guaranteed money for an injury prone guy like Noah. We're talking about a guy who's had season-ending injuries or off-season surgeries for 4 years in a row now.

Fit-wise, Noah/Rose fit NYK well than they did here (despite ironically being the identity of our team 2+ years ago). Noah brings 5th gear energy and a loud voice to a locker-room that seemed lethargic and passive. Rose is a wild-card but obviously for a deep playoff run, you'd hope for more out of a healthy Rose than Calderon.

Rondo/Wade fit this roster better than those two. We needed to chill out the locker room, get some drama out of here, and we needed skilled, veteran mentors for all these crappy young players. Niko, Portis, Doug -- they all seem lost and confused. Hopefully Wade and Rondo can give them the direction they need.