Woj: Top story this week: Butler to Boston still a possibility

Chi town · Post #601 » by **Chi town** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:24 am

Ctownbulls wrote:
Chi town wrote:So let's say Bulls send Jimmy for Brown and BKN pick... Wade walks.

How do we rebuild w 70M in cap space next summer? Throw a max at Otto Porter? 15M per for Tim Hardaway? Patty Mills for 15M? Illyasova for 15M?

I think we could trade Jimmy and still be a playoff team next season in the weak east.

They can keep Jimmy and still make all of those **** moves you suggested.

Uh... no they can't. They have 30M in cap space if Taj Niko MCW and Rondo leave in FA. If Jimmy stays so does Wade.

patagonia · Post #602 » by **patagonia** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:36 am

Lakers could have had DMC but refused to give up Ingram? SMH

HollywoodAsl · Post #603 » by **HollywoodAsl** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:40 am

Anyone trading for DMC needs a current star already in place for it to work. Otherwise they just become Kings 2.0.

For example, if the Lakers trade for him they're no better off than Sacramento is right now. If Portland or Houston were to trade for him it's a different story.

Post #604 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:50 am

Read on Twitter

erlim · Post #605 » by **erlim** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:53 am

I'm excited to see a twin towers franchise. AD and Cousins are incredibly gifted. We will see if AD can be the yin to calm Cousin's yang.

arich35 · Post #606 » by **arich35** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:55 am

Rerisen wrote:The whole dynamic of how you win in this league could be changing to recruiting and buddy ball, not painstaking 7yr building through the draft.

Bulls better wait and see if the Warriors easily win the title.

If its easy, then I don't see any teams competing except those that have stars that can recruit other stars. And Jimmy Butler seems like a guy capable of getting along with other stars and willing to recruit.

I know the new CBA is trying to help teams keep their stars and people don't think guys will ever walk away from those mega deals. But maybe younger ones will. And if no stars ever do walk away from their teams, then GS might win 5 of 6 titles or something, and other superstars will be forced much harder to take stock of their priorities of winning vs money.

This has been happening, where have you been?

dice · Post #607 » by **dice** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:57 am

erlim wrote:
Ice Man wrote:
Action Paxson wrote:The one model that the biggest Bulls optimist could use is Boston, who engineered trades to turn a bottom 5 team into a champion, built around a 30 year old Paul Pierce. However, that require quite the asset collection in the next two seasons.

Yep. Trouble is, we probably don't have the assets to get the equivalent of Ray Allen and Garnett, plus there's the problem that we don't seem to have the next Rondo with our kids.

Wade might be as good as Allen

wade is redundant to butler. allen was the perfect fit in boston and expected to contribute at a high level in that role for a number of years

dice · Post #608 » by **dice** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:59 am

patagonia wrote:Lakers could have had DMC but refused to give up Ingram? SMH

where did you read this and what else was part of the deal?

Ctownbulls · Post #609 » by **Ctownbulls** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:03 am

The Bulls certainly did not ask Stevens to not play Jimmy the same way that the Kings asked Kerr to not play Cousins.

JimmyPippen · Post #610 » by **JimmyPippen** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:05 am

It has to be Brown & both Nets picks otherwise dont even bother.

Ctownbulls · Post #611 » by **Ctownbulls** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:06 am

JimmyPippen wrote:It has to be Brown & both Nets picks otherwise dont even bother.

Yup

laploutocratie · Post #612 » by **laploutocratie** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:14 am

JimmyPippen wrote:It has to be Brown & both Nets picks otherwise dont even bother.

I'm not sure that's remotely realistic given after what just transpired though.

Proven_Winner · Post #613 » by **Proven_Winner** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:18 am

HomoSapien wrote:
Proven_Winner wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
Agreed. It's also the type of young guys we're adding. It'd be nice to get some elite athleticism on this team.

Don't mention that HP that's the dark voice in my head that makes me want to trade butler for a shot at lonzo.

If it makes you feel better, Butler is athletic?

Yea but I miss the days of having a uber athletic PG.

jc23 · Post #614 » by **jc23** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:18 am

Hey boston fans, we might have some inept gm's but they are not Sacramento inept. Your not getting Jimmy for a bull package like they got for boogie. People get fired for such stupidity.

jc23 · Post #615 » by **jc23** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:20 am

dice wrote:
patagonia wrote:Lakers could have had DMC but refused to give up Ingram? SMH

where did you read this and what else was part of the deal?

its on twitter somewhere. Would have thought the simple trade mind of Magic would have been all about a trade for boogie.

Post #616 » by **Payt10** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:23 am

laploutocratie wrote:
JimmyPippen wrote:It has to be Brown & both Nets picks otherwise dont even bother.

I'm not sure that's remotely realistic given after what just transpired though.

Don't be fooled, the Kings were never going to get fair value for Cousins, because of the attitude issues. He's also not as good of a player as Butler is.

dice · Post #617 » by **dice** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:24 am

jc23 wrote:
dice wrote:
patagonia wrote:Lakers could have had DMC but refused to give up Ingram? SMH

where did you read this and what else was part of the deal?

its on twitter somewhere. Would have thought the simple trade mind of Magic would have been all about a trade for boogie.

magic isn't involved with the lakers

jc23 · Post #618 » by **jc23** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:25 am

dice wrote:
jc23 wrote:
dice wrote:where did you read this and what else was part of the deal?

its on twitter somewhere. Would have thought the simple trade mind of Magic would have been all about a trade for boogie.

magic isn't involved with the lakers

could have sworn he was given a position with the team recently.

ArizonaBullsFan · Post #619 » by **ArizonaBullsFan** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:29 am

jc23 wrote:
dice wrote:
jc23 wrote:
its on twitter somewhere. Would have thought the simple trade mind of Magic would have been all about a trade for boogie.

magic isn't involved with the lakers

could have sworn he was given a position with the team recently.

He was, as an advisor. Lots of people wondering whether he'd be happy just "advising" or if he's really after more power, like the GM role or something.

dice · Post #620 » by **dice** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:37 am

jc23 wrote:Hey boston fans, we might have some inept gm's but they are not Sacramento inept. Your not getting Jimmy for a bull package like they got for boogie. People get fired for such stupidity.

i'm not sure what you expect a team to get for a guy who's about to be a free agent, seeking max money and not worth max money. it's not like they turned down the brooklyn picks

the kings now have the opportunity to spend the cousins money more wisely and effectively get 2 first rounders to boot