Gordon Negotiating With CSKA MOSCOW [UPDATE P.20]CSKA denies

[TB#1]

Duck:

What was the other allegedly fabricated story about a foreign club? I can't recall it off the top of my head...

[BULLHITTER]

I mean even if the Bulls read the story and believed it, the offer was so stupid in it that it wouldn't cause them to change their negotiating point.

it speaks volumes about the fans who're posting ludicrous opinions over something so ridiculously transparent and making judgments about gordon and his agent. i realize it's the offseason and fans are rabid for any morsel of info regarding his signing, but damn.......

[DuckIII]

Duck:

What was the other allegedly fabricated story about a foreign club? I can't recall it off the top of my head...

Greece. There was talk that Gordon was looking at Greece or talking to Greece (post Childress) and someone from Olympiakos said it wasn't true.

[theanimal23]

Set a damn deadline Pax and/or reduce the damn offer. Especially if Gordon's agent is fabricating an offer(s)

[kyrv]

Boy was the Skool right about BG all along. What a creep.

I don't really see he is being a creep.

He seems to be making unwise basketball business decisions, he doesn't seem to be a creep, at least to me.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

Alright, the game is up Gordon. Accept the more than fair offer. We need your scoring and you need our money. Let's get on with this.

[Cliff Levingston]

If Gordon had signed on the line that is dotted, the Bulls could have been making moves to clear the roster out. As it is, he's locked everything up.

Meh. That's what the Bulls would like you to believe. It's not like Gordon is holding the Bulls hostage. They could make other moves if they'd like at the possible cost of having less left under the tax to offer Gordon.. or more. The Bulls (or Paxson rather) could've offered the deal to Gordon then proceeded to make deals anyway if he wanted to so bad.

[DuckIII]

If Gordon had signed on the line that is dotted, the Bulls could have been making moves to clear the roster out. As it is, he's locked everything up.

Meh. That's what the Bulls would like you to believe.

Then they'll be happy to know that I do, in fact, believe it.

[dougthonus]

I believe that the Bulls have taken a stance that they won't make other moves until Gordon is resolved.

However, I don't see how you could believe that it's the only stance they could take. They could clearly make other moves if they choose to.

[bullzman23]

Umm...why would Gordon's agent spread a rumor that a team in Russia wouldn't even offer him Childress money?

If anything it's probably Reinsdorf who planted this rumor. Don't agree? Here's a reminder of why you should:

"I don't know -- anything's possible at this point," he said. "I'm just in the process of going through a lot of thoughts in my head about what's best for me right now. It wasn't until a few hours ago that it became clear that we were not going to be able to reach a deal. I've got to regroup a little bit. I've been a little bit shocked by the whole process. So I've got to make some tough decisions about what's best for me."

And what if Reinsdorf were to get involved to try to save the deal?

"It's gone on for so long now -- ever since February -- that I don't think anything is going to change at this point," Skiles said. "The thing is, they sent [a media] henchman after me [Monday] morning, and I knew it was coming. [A certain reporter] would write an article accusing me of being greedy. I knew it was coming. But the greedy thing to do would be to take the money. I'm at odds, more than anything else, at how I've been treated. It's really not so much a money issue."

[Bullsville]

Umm...why would Gordon's agent spread a rumor that a team in Russia wouldn't even offer him Childress money?

If anything it's probably Reinsdorf who planted this rumor. Don't agree? Here's a reminder of why you should:

"I don't know -- anything's possible at this point," he said. "I'm just in the process of going through a lot of thoughts in my head about what's best for me right now. It wasn't until a few hours ago that it became clear that we were not going to be able to reach a deal. I've got to regroup a little bit. I've been a little bit shocked by the whole process. So I've got to make some tough decisions about what's best for me."

And what if Reinsdorf were to get involved to try to save the deal?

"It's gone on for so long now -- ever since February -- that I don't think anything is going to change at this point," Skiles said. "The thing is, they sent [a media] henchman after me [Monday] morning, and I knew it was coming. [A certain reporter] would write an article accusing me of being greedy. I knew it was coming. But the greedy thing to do would be to take the money. I'm at odds, more than anything else, at how I've been treated. It's really not so much a money issue."

The problem is, that quote holds zero credibility- as soon as the money went up, Skiles signed on the dotted line.

So it seems as if it wasn't about "how he was treated", it was about the money. If he was so badly mistreated, why did he resign? Is he a glutton for punishment? Does he like being mistreated?

There's an old saying that goes something like "the more they insist that it's not about the money, the more you can be sure that it absolutely IS about the money".

He said that the greedy thing to do would be to take the money. He did take the money. In his own exact words, he WAS being greedy.

So it seems as if the media member wasn't a henchman, just honest.

[bullzman23]

Umm...why would Gordon's agent spread a rumor that a team in Russia wouldn't even offer him Childress money?

If anything it's probably Reinsdorf who planted this rumor. Don't agree? Here's a reminder of why you should:

"I don't know -- anything's possible at this point," he said. "I'm just in the process of going through a lot of thoughts in my head about what's best for me right now. It wasn't until a few hours ago that it became clear that we were not going to be able to reach a deal. I've got to regroup a little bit. I've been a little bit shocked by the whole process. So I've got to make some tough decisions about what's best for me."

And what if Reinsdorf were to get involved to try to save the deal?

"It's gone on for so long now -- ever since February -- that I don't think anything is going to change at this point," Skiles said. "The thing is, they sent [a media] henchman after me [Monday] morning, and I knew it was coming. [A certain reporter] would write an article accusing me of being greedy. I knew it was coming. But the greedy thing to do would be to take the money. I'm at odds, more than anything else, at how I've been treated. It's really not so much a money issue."

The problem is, that quote holds zero credibility- as soon as the money went up, Skiles signed on the dotted line.

So it seems as if it wasn't about "how he was treated", it was about the money. If he was so badly mistreated, why did he resign? Is he a glutton for punishment? Does he like being mistreated?

There's an old saying that goes something like "the more they insist that it's not about the money, the more you can be sure that it absolutely IS about the money".

He said that the greedy thing to do would be to take the money. He did take the money. In his own exact words, he WAS being greedy.

So it seems as if the media member wasn't a henchman, just honest.

Ok...now explain to me why Gordon's camp would spread a rumor that even European teams wouldn't match his demands.

[Tommy Udo 6]

"Umm...why would Gordon's agent spread a rumor that a team in Russia wouldn't even offer him Childress money?

If anything it's probably Reinsdorf who planted this rumor. "

Oh give me a break. Bulls have made their final offer & there is no need for them to deal in misinformation

Why would Reinsdorf plant such a rumor? He obviously wants Ben or he wouldnt offer him $59 million

Mr Brothers - Gordon's agent - refused to return phone calls from McGraw seeking confirmation (probably from others also)

Reinsdorf has already stated in past that he has no problem if Ben only takes QO

The only one with a motive to do this is Gordon's agent.

[DuckIII]

I believe that the Bulls have taken a stance that they won't make other moves until Gordon is resolved.

However, I don't see how you could believe that it's the only stance they could take. They could clearly make other moves if they choose to.

I do not believe that it is the only stance they could take. They could try to trade whoever they want, no matter how reckless. I do believe that they are really selling though - which is that they don't want to make moves until they get closure on the Gordon situation because to make a move first could prove harmful to the team if you don't end up getting Gordon signed.

I think they are taking the correct approach.

[bullzman23]

Oh give me a break. Bulls have made their final offer & there is no need for them to deal in misinformation

Why would Reinsdorf plant such a rumor? He obviously wants Ben or he wouldnt offer him $59 million

You're a smart guy. I know you can figure out why it'd benefit Reinsdorf to spread rumors that Gordon couldn't even find a contract in Europe.

The only one with a motive to do this is Gordon's agent.

Gordon's agent has a motive to create a rumor that a team in Russia is offering him a contract that is worse than Josh Childress' contract?