Bulls have offer from Bucks(via Thessaloniki)

Red Larrivee · Post #41 » by **Red Larrivee** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:52 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:Is it only me or does this seem too good to be true? So good its unrealistic. I am a huge Hinrich fan but unless Skiles owes kirk a leg, doesnt this seem to be an overpayment for kirk?

Either that or the Bucks can:

A. Overpay to keep Ramon Sessions
B. Draft a not as good defensive PG

Trading for Kirk would be better options than both if you're Milwaukee.

bulletbill · Post #42 » by **bulletbill** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:52 pm

Lets say the rumored deal of 16 + 26 for the Nets 11th pick goes down, as well as this trade for the Bucks 10th. Do you:

- keep both picks
-Trade up to keep
-Make a move for Bosh now

Thabeet in a package for Bosh sounds real good to me.

theanimal23 · Post #43 » by **theanimal23** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:53 pm

I wouldn't go Williams, Henderson, Blair, or Hansbrough in the top 10. Maybe James Johnson. But I'd have my sights on Holiday, DeRozen, Hill. I'd try to package up to get Harden if thats even remotely possible. I wish I knew more about Hill's game. He has legit PF size.

#1TKfan · Post #44 » by **#1TKfan** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:53 pm

deng/garbage 10th and 26th for amare.

Ralphb07 · Post #45 » by **Ralphb07** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:53 pm

logical_art wrote:How high could we get with the 10, 16 and 26?

I wouldn't trade any of the picks. I would use 10 and 16 on players and use 26 on Calathes and let him play overseas

We would be in full 2010 mode with the 10th, 16th, 26th and Asik all being cheap contracts in 2010 to go with whatever big time FA we land

Our team will still be good with Miller, Noah,Deng,Salmons,Rose, Luke, 10th and 16th this year even if Gordon is gone

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #46 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:53 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:meh.

wait this sure changed quick

lol...

I still don't know what I think. I'd still do it - but not with quite the excitement I initially exhibited.

tyrususi007 · Post #47 » by **tyrususi007** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:54 pm

I think if this goes down we can move up higher in the draft like someone said to grab a pick from Minny. I would love to see James Harden next to Rose. I think he will be one of the sure shoot picks this year.

Or are we going after Amare again? since PHX is now talking to Golden State about moving Amare for Biedreiense (whatever his name is) and the #7 pick?

bullzman23 · Post #48 » by **bullzman23** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:56 pm

I've been calling for a version of this trade ever since Skiles was hired.

If we do this trade, we can offer 10, 16, 26, tons of expiring contracts, plus Thomas, Deng, or Salmons. If that package can't get Bosh, then we're not getting Bosh.

MrSparkle · Post #49 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:56 pm

Kirk would be good fit for Portland and Milwaukee.

Would make up for Redd's lack of D and help run offense through Bogut...

Post #50 » by **DJhitek** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:56 pm

Actually, if you believe everything you hear, this would be the trade up to get Henderson. 16 would probably be whoever is there from the Blair/Psycho T combo.

kyrv · Post #51 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:
logical_art wrote:How high could we get with the 10, 16 and 26?

I wouldn't trade any of the picks. I would use 10 and 16 on players and use 26 on Calathes and let him play overseas

We would be in full 2010 mode with the 10th, 16th, 26th and Asik all being cheap contracts in 2010 to go with whatever big time FA we land

Our team will still be good with Miller, Noah,Deng,Salmons,Rose, Luke, 10th and 16th this year even if Gordon is gone

That would be good.

I do agree with grand.champ, and this draft could have few if any all-stars, but it seems to have mediocre depth, if that makes any sense. None of the picks would be projected to start next season (if ever).

biggestbullsfan · Post #52 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:Is it only me or does this seem too good to be true? So good its unrealistic. I am a huge Hinrich fan but unless Skiles owes kirk a leg, doesnt this seem to be an overpayment for kirk?

Either that or the Bucks can:

A. Overpay to keep Ramon Sessions
B. Draft a not as good defensive PG

Trading for Kirk would be better options than both if you're Milwaukee.

Its weird cause I live in milwaukee and moved here from CHI. We traded RJ for nothing and to trade the 10 pick for kirk seems like a strech unless the Bucks feel getting younger isnt smart and that they can go into next year confident and with krik. However, It seems unlickly to me.

tyrususi007 · Post #53 » by **tyrususi007** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 pm

bullzman23 wrote:I've been calling for a version of this trade ever since Skiles was hired.

If we do this trade, we can offer 10, 16, 26, tons of expiring contract, plus Thomas, Deng, or Salmons. If that package can't get Bosh, then we're not getting Bosh.

True Dat

theanimal23 · Post #54 » by **theanimal23** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 pm

bullzman23 wrote:I've been calling for a version of this trade ever since Skiles was hired.

If we do this trade, we can offer 10, 16, 26, tons of expiring contract, plus Thomas, Deng, or Salmons. If that package can't get Bosh, then we're not getting Bosh.

+1

sdeezy · Post #55 » by **sdeezy** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 pm

Sounds like a very good trade. I'm not so excited about having 3 rookies from a trash draft. If we can package all 3 and move up to get Harden, i'll be pleased

Ralphb07 · Post #56 » by **Ralphb07** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:58 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:it seems too good to be true. Luke is a nice back up PG and Elson would be a nice big to have on the bench

the 10th pick would be huge. We can land Derozan, Williams or Henderson and still have the 16th for TH, Blair and the 26th for a overseas guy

It would be us in major 2010 mode

In my opinion, we just aren't going into next season with 2 rookies. I think it's one rookie, and the other spots will be filled with veterans.

Quite frankly, if what you said above happens, I honestly wouldn't be upset by trading both picks to a team like the Thunder and the Wolves for their picks next year, then keep our 10.

Blair is NBA ready and for 1.2mil you won't find a FA big that will rebound better than him( Thanks Chad Ford) so he makes sense

Williamsn and Henderson are both NBA ready and fill a need to and again what the rookie pay scale is and their upside why not take it

26th should be a player we can stash away for the year... Think about it going to 2010 the only large contract would be is Deng and we will have young players like Noah, Rose, 10th, 16th, 26th, Omer to fill out the roster which are cheap contracts

BullsFan123 · Post #57 » by **BullsFan123** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:58 pm

logical_art wrote:How high could we get with the 10, 16 and 26?

I'd say trade all three to Minny for their 5/6th. That way Minny has Six first round Picks :lol:

theanimal23 · Post #58 » by **theanimal23** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:59 pm

DJhitek wrote:Actually, if you believe everything you hear, this would be the trade up to get Henderson. 16 would probably be whoever is there from the Blair/Psycho T combo.

I can very well see that. But IMO we'd be short-sighted if we didn't try for Harden if he slips to 5. I am clueless regarding Jordan Hill. But if he drops to 7 or 8, we may be able to entice that team to land him for our picks. Someone with more knowledge of him can advise me if that'd an intelligent or stupid decision.

theanimal23 · Post #59 » by **theanimal23** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:59 pm

DJhitek wrote:Actually, if you believe everything you hear, this would be the trade up to get Henderson. 16 would probably be whoever is there from the Blair/Psycho T combo.

I can very well see that. But IMO we'd be short-sighted if we didn't try for Harden if he slips to 5. I am clueless regarding Jordan Hill. But if he drops to 7 or 8, we may be able to entice that team to land him for our picks. Someone with more knowledge of him can advise me if that'd an intelligent or stupid decision.

biggestbullsfan · Post #60 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:01 pm

Who is the source for this again and is it legit?