the 2014 OffSeason Thread.

[Quake Griffin]

so we sign Brett Anderson to a one year deal for $10 million.

Curious as to why we've inked 2 pitchers with an injury history this offseason.


for some reason, I think we're going to make a play for a bigger pitcher and then deal Ryu.
that's 3 lefties in our SP. Ryu has a bummy shoulder….They can still get a lot of value for him. I think that's going to be their play.

if I'm wrong…tell me.

[Neddy]

so we sign Brett Anderson to a one year deal for $10 million.

Curious as to why we've inked 2 pitchers with an injury history this offseason.


for some reason, I think we're going to make a play for a bigger pitcher and then deal Ryu.
that's 3 lefties in our SP. Ryu has a bummy shoulder….They can still get a lot of value for him. I think that's going to be their play.

if I'm wrong…tell me.

no way we deal away poultry salary of 4.5 mil/year who has performed better than 3 times of that contract on the field. and knowing how much more money the dodgers make on Ryu's starts with the massive Korean population of LA, I don't see it happening.

rather, I think we are probably gonna go into the 2015 season with the guys as is.

if any trade, I can see them trading Greinke, knowing he will opt out. for a contending team tho, a rental of a staff Ace like Zach can make the difference. how about Greinke to the red sox for some of their excellent farm hands? then we could go out and sign Max or Shields.

but

Kershaw
Greinke
Ryu
McCarthy
Anderson

is a pretty good looking rotation.

as for Ryu's bum shoulder thing, I wouldn't worry about it unless he is going under the knife. if that was the case he probably would have already. Ryu had a TJS in high school. that is the reason why he docent throw bullpen sessions. h he had some shoulder sourness in the past at KBO, but never skipped more than a few starts and always bounced back.

[Quake Griffin]

no way we deal away poultry salary of 4.5 mil/year who has performed better than 3 times of that contract on the field. and knowing how much more money the dodgers make on Ryu's starts with the massive Korean population of LA, I don't see it happening.

he's likely our last chance to deal Crawford or Ethier.
what better way to entice someone to take one of those two.

I can see it man.

[Neddy]

no way we deal away poultry salary of 4.5 mil/year who has performed better than 3 times of that contract on the field. and knowing how much more money the dodgers make on Ryu's starts with the massive Korean population of LA, I don't see it happening.

he's likely our last chance to deal Crawford or Ethier.
what better way to entice someone to take one of those two.

I can see it man.

not necessarily.

every baseball club nowadays have its analytic department or at least a staff who handles the math. we have an even cheaper and possibly a powerhouse clean up hitter in SVS whom we can entice a trade. he has more value with us, but his versatility in positions he can play and given the minimum salary he makes, he is a low risk high reward type of a bait that just maybe able to facilitate a deal.

i just can't see the marketing and PR departments to trade Ryu out. partially because he is a very distant nephew of my wife.

[Neddy]

but honestly, while US media is being quiet about it, the same south korean link i provided is now reporting the dodgers have soured on Hamels trade with the phillies because they are asking either Corey Seager or Joc pederson.

looks like Brett Anderson was a replacement, plus Joc still is in the plans.

[Neddy]

has it occurred to anyone else that we have now with presumed trade to be of League, that we have two guys in the pen who can spot start in Nicasio and Bolsinger? I think signing Anderson and McCarthy fully knowing their injury history was bolstered with two potential starters who can cover in short stints without giving up options on our prospects.

again, with Ryu being a distant relative of my wife, I have my bias but I just don't see SABR savvy front office we have now to give up a SABR bargain blessing like Ryu to be a trade bait just to overspend for another relatively similar starter.

remember, SABR stat wise, Ryu posted similar numbers to Greinke while costing less than a quarter of Zach's salary.

[Quake Griffin]

I'm a little worried about the McCarthy/ Anderson signings.

looks like Zaidi just trusted guys he worked with in Oakland and brought em over.
hopefully they work out and eat some innings.

It was good to hear McCarthy talk about his upper body strength and how he never had any and it let to fatigue/ injury. He goes onto say that isn't a problem anymore.


perhaps what I like most about this offseason.
looks like we're out on Hamels and not into Scherzer. It's a clear call to Kershaw to step up in the playoffs. There is no super lock down $200 million pitcher coming that's going to (along with Greinke) cover up your mistakes and carry you through the playoff rounds on bad starts.

[Neddy]

i don't think its all that risky, to be honest simply because we have

Nicasio/Bolsinger/Lee/Urias waiting for their shot at the rotation if McCarthy and Anderson were to do gown.

I do think the first two didn't have a fair shot in their early showing, and the latter two can surprise a lot of people with their performance if given chance. I still think the first two can be a decent #5 option, and Zach Lee is capable of being a #3 guy in any rotation, and Urias could be your ace.

[Neddy]

just a little pet peeve.

i can't think of another site where there were no SABR threads or posters who discuss SABR methods in general baseball forum, ever.

[Quake Griffin]

just a little pet peeve.

i can't think of another site where there were no SABR threads or posters who discuss SABR methods in general baseball forum, ever.

they'll get into it every now and then….

Make a thread about SABRs in general. What people think about them. What people need to know etc. etc.

[Neddy]

just a little pet peeve.

i can't think of another site where there were no SABR threads or posters who discuss SABR methods in general baseball forum, ever.

they'll get into it every now and then….

Make a thread about SABRs in general. What people think about them. What people need to know etc. etc.

good try, but as i predicted, it ain't gonna get much.

how is your bar study coming along? i had forgotten that law schools are three years unlike medical or dental schools which are four. you are graduating soon!!!! congrats man, you deserve it. you worked hard enough. your old man must be proud.

hey whenever you get your **** together and have some loose change, come fly to Oregon to my little humble town. it maybe a rural small town USA, but we are the true town that can say come as you are.

PS- I was escorted by police when i visited Aberdeen WA, the actual town Cobain is from that has the sign that says "come as you are". I was simply drivng through the town with my friend Marcus, who was black and me being Asian, as soon as we entered the town a cop's car drove right behind me and pulled me over when we were driving under the speed limit and obeying the law. the cop said "where you boys headed to?" I said "we are going to the Quinault indian Casino" the cop told us "well you boys look like out of towners, I'll make sure you guys get on your way"

the funny thing is, there was only one way to get to the casino, which was the road we were on. the cops only drove us through the town from the edge of Aberdeen to the other edge of Aberdeen.

the irony is, I am a person who holds a title of a doctor, and Marcus had a BA in business. he was the manager of the Olympia, WA's ShopCo at the time. we were so much more educated than the cops who "escorted" out of their town for being "out of towers" LMAO.

[Quake Griffin]

gonna give u a partial response because I'm kinda drunk.


In Wisconsin we don't have to take the bar.
I get bar privilege just by taking some specific classes in the law school.


I'm gonna fill out my Illinois bar app over break…and that will require some studying.
and that will be in June.

[Fresh360Waves]

I'm a little worried about the McCarthy/ Anderson signings.

looks like Zaidi just trusted guys he worked with in Oakland and brought em over.
hopefully they work out and eat some innings.

It was good to hear McCarthy talk about his upper body strength and how he never had any and it let to fatigue/ injury. He goes onto say that isn't a problem anymore.


perhaps what I like most about this offseason.
looks like we're out on Hamels and not into Scherzer. It's a clear call to Kershaw to step up in the playoffs. There is no super lock down $200 million pitcher coming that's going to (along with Greinke) cover up your mistakes and carry you through the playoff rounds on bad starts.

Now Kershaw has a strong defense up the middle. The errors in the St. Louis series killed us and of course the fact there was no bullpen either. He should be fine this time around in the postseason.

[Star-Lord]

I don't see any real need to move Ryu. Certainly not in an effort to move either Ethier or Crawford. I have hope with the Wilson designation that Ethier will be next on the DFA block, and I actually think at this point the team is better off just hanging on to Crawford and getting as much good baseball left out of him as they can. When he did play, Crawford wasn't bad last year, and he'll be splitting time with Van Slyke in left (and against lefties) anyway. Plus there's Chris Heisey, who could conceivably spend time in left too.

[Neddy]

I think Heisey is an insurance for the CF position and in case of a need of a platoon player for Joc.

and i also think if Joc plays well in spring training, one of Crawford + Ethier will be traded out before the opening day.

[Quake Griffin]

I'm dumbfounded tbh.

there has to be a team that will take on Crawford if we pay half.
$10 million is not a bad bargain for CC.

[Neddy]

I'm dumbfounded tbh.

there has to be a team that will take on Crawford if we pay half.
$10 million is not a bad bargain for CC.

i dunno. Im not surprised. that's why i was hoping and praying to attach Carl to kemp's deal. a guy who hits .760-ish OPS as an OF who posted 2.5WAR isn't too hard to get, even at 10 Million a year. in fact, most clubs have a guy in AAA who could come pretty close to that production at the minimum salary. a classic case of his name and .300 BA inflating a player's value. his OBP is at Juan Pierre's level, and his SLG% is around Brett Garner and Denard Span's range. he is aging, and his biggest asset in his prime was his athleticism, which is disappearing each and every season. he can only play LF due to his piss poor arm strength, and his ego of wanting to start becomes a problem for most clubs who needs to split playing time for their young players.

I hope we do find a partner t trade... unfortunately between carl and andre i see andre being more in demand due to his high OBP and potential for some HR power he might still have, given enough consistent at bats. most of all, he can play all 3 OF positions plus 1B. which is the exact reason why i wish to keep him over carl.

[Quake Griffin]

Ned.

you got anything on Chin-Hui Tsao?

[Neddy]

Ned.

you got anything on Chin-Hui Tsao?

don't really care a ton for this guy to be honest. he has been banned from Taiwan for fixing a game, was drafted by the Rocks and pitched for us for just one season. if he works out and make our bullpen, at least there is another 95mph arm in the pen.

I would prefer that we take a look at his fellow countryman Hong Chih Kuo. now there is a guy who was lights out.

one thing i might add, is that the Taiwanese league known as CPBL is a dirty, corrupted, scandalous league that's been marred not only by fixing games, but with fraudulent business tactics, revenue problems, franchises expanding and contracting at will, leaving fans befuddled and basically conned. the fact that Tsao had signed a deal to pitch for the Adelaide Bites of the Aussie league but couldn't don the uniform as the Bites caved under pressure from CPBL threatening to cut the talent supply for the future if Tsao was allowed to play, smells a serious rat as of him being a victim of some powerful guy who maybe retaliating from Tsao not fixing games like he was told to.

[Quake Griffin]

http://www.dodgersnation.com/hamels-tol ... 2015/01/05
Hamels told Rollins he wanted to be a Dodger.

I'd just tell the Phillies:

You have to take Crawford and you can't have both Seager and Urias together….but you can have other combinations that includes ONE of them.

Looks like the Orioles discussed trading for Ethier. My rule of thumb is that if it hit the rumor mill that there were discussions, assume nothing is gonna happen. If you take his whole salary, you can have him for nothing. If we pay half….give me an arm. I'm not sure exactly sure what the Orioles have in terms of arms….but yea.