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Re: Draft/ International Signing Day? 

Post#301 » by Neddy » Sun Sep 4, 2016 7:30 pm

here is a nice article from a Japanese baseball journalist Koichi Kimura which I had google translate about Otani

In recent years, it begins to develop and change in the interest of major league scouts are watching Shohei Otani. Until last year, it had been focusing on 'pitcher Otani. One East Coast Team Scouts "What a hitter waste of time one years even faster committed to pitching, I would like to confirm his potential," he said to. No matter ttwieonado, power hitter to hitter because as many major league world a.

previously, there had yet another major league official told me so.

"with globe Seest America? or Seest map?" It was this sense. "Japanese for the Japanese fans and the media try to advance to the major Leagues It is expected to bear the players will be granted. But often it is not appropriate to complain that assessment is low. Asian professional league for us is the faraway sea opposite. In the end, I think the players of Dominica and Venezuela, including Latin America first. When the East player decides that inferior compared to them, because finally become a recruiting target "high. In short, if you look at the United States (MLB) to the globe it can distance unrealistic and Latin America as in East Asia, but the map is usually the country jatda the time to be drawn with in the middle, so somehow "there is a country in the center of the Earth," he would be mistaken. Otani also Yes, no matter how Japanese fans or the media is tteodeuleodo as' major league level, "major league scout for big hitters no, the previous representative globe and was somehow an example of the map. in that sense, it is very surprised at the way that "other Otani 'year of his plays are major league scouts did not feel interested in the last year. he will not. I write this column, in a September 1 point, hitting scores of Otani is 85, but we capped the game batting did not fill the regulations bats .330, 20 home runs, 54 runs batted in. pitcher late July, although not throwing naseoneun caught blisters on your fingers, batting order has been mainly appointed to three times lineup as the designated hitter has proudly served as main gun of the Nippon ham. in particular, it points to evaluate distance of 20 homers greatly. among 20 home runs, and half ten notice anything beyond the left fence need a point to which not just right behind the swing timing delayed, surely produce hit the ball, ie hitting push to the left rather than pulled to the right there Parry fence. this technology is not that anyone can do. MLB Scouts also "put back the most points after hitting, hitting a fast swing. As a result, it can be seen that fly to left, "we are evaluating. Scouts' hitters Otani, also has another reason I started to pay attention. Some of the story is the DH system in the next National League this is because the introduction may not know the news might leak. so when not only pitcher that strikes are also two fully subject to evaluation. major will leagues in realizing the 'yidoryu' pitcher and batter?! so in that they started nerves letter Otani the fatigue system. for example, when they resting four days outing as a starter in the major leagues, is put on the plate as a pinch hitter and designated hitter in between breaks. eopneunya it whether to maintain body condition during 162 games. Scouts attention to there for devoting. But fatigue and its resilience in the rare stands, it is difficult to check. can just about tell if the only pitcher same is true just by typing, but it will at while adjunct both working on the game itself, incredible for scouts . so fatigue is also its resilience will also be a 'uncharted territory' does that and digest any items to practice time outside of the game. How can an item to restore the weight training and fatigue. is it up to how much effect ... ... but this Nippon ham 'business secrets' are two. outstanding Scouts also can not get the data it like a spy. 've friendly west Coast team scouts have said: because "you (I) is a sports reporter, Nippon IGA will know the ham. Eopneunya may ask? " Jokes, but there were scouts Remove the story like a half-serious. Continue will be examined by the pitcher. Otherwise a batter. Or both. As significant the differences, difficulty jimyeo complicated even their investigation added. the scout said earlier lamented this. "many Asian players have seen so far. But the playground in the show know he had never thought that if you need to do. " What trouble is Having no choice but to say (laughs). As well as athletes of Japanese baseball sense that Otani going to be the presence upset to the common sense of the Major League Baseball ?


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Tito to Hold Showcase on Wednesday 

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Lourdes Gourriel, Jr.'s Workout 

Post#303 » by Ranma » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:37 pm

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Notable Interest in Tito for Private Workouts 

Post#304 » by Ranma » Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:39 am

Alex Tekip, ESPN.com (10/4/16)
Teams that have shown interest in the 22-year-old Cuban shortstop/second baseman, according to Heyman, are: the Miami Marlins, who will give him a "close look;" the Houston Astros, who will look at him in a private workout, and the Boston Red Sox.

Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes that several St. Louis Cardinals senior scouts have been looking at Gurriel, including at a recent work out in Panama City. The Cards will discuss scheduling a private workout for Gurriel, per Goold.

Goold also writes that some scouts consider Lourdes to be a better all-around player and hitter than his older brother, and his style of play has been compared to that of Cardinals shortstop Aledmys Diaz.

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MLB Pushing for International Draft by 2018 in Next CBA 

Post#305 » by Ranma » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:12 am

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Dodgers Could Use This Guy in the Postseason 

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Going After Gurriel 

Post#307 » by Ranma » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:43 pm

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Otani Offseason Primer 

Post#308 » by Ranma » Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:18 am

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Daniel Brim Talks Otani 

Post#309 » by Ranma » Wed Nov 2, 2016 10:18 pm

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Re: Draft/ International Signing Day? 

Post#310 » by Neddy » Thu Nov 3, 2016 4:29 am

well Daniel isn't the only one to have been watching young Otani. in fact I remember reading about him since his Koshien where he threw 100 mph fastballs and sliders leading upto semis.

one of my eventual retirement plan goals... visit Koshien stadium during their summer tornament and watch nothing but Japanese high school baseball for a month. the other is to get a small RV and travel and watch every game at every ballpark, from every majors to every level of minors before I die.
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A-Gon Recruiting Otani with Dodger Swag? 

Post#311 » by Ranma » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:47 pm

Hopefully, Kershaw made a good impression on Lourdes Gurriel, Jr. when he visited Cuba. Now Gonzalez is following suit in what looks like some wooing of the Japanese phenom.

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Tito to Blue Jays 

Post#312 » by Ranma » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:47 pm

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More Idle Hope for Otani to Be Posted 

Post#313 » by Ranma » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:45 am

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Otani Currently Subject to International Signing Guidelines 

Post#314 » by Ranma » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:58 am

I'm shocked to hear that Shohei Otani is actually subject to the international signing guidelines. Despite having "international" in the title, I thought those guidelines only applied to Latin America and not Pan-Asia. While it is noted that that could theoretically change with adjustments to the CBA, we would currently be locked out of pursuing him for anything more than $300,000. Like Lourdes Gurriel, Jr.--whom the Dodgers passed on ( :upset: )--he will be free of such restrictions next year. Couple this with his desire to represent Japan in the World Baseball Classic in 2017 and it is practically assured that he won't be available until next offseason at the earliest. It would also be in our best interest for him to be posted after next season as well given the revelation of the current situation.

J.J. Cooper, Baseball America (11/14/16)
Because Otani is only 22, the team signing him would be subject to international bonus pool restrictions. And there’s zero reason that Otani would subject himself to those rules when he would be free and clear of them next offseason.

The only exceptions to the international signing rules are for players who are 23 or older and have played five or more seasons in a recognized professional league. Otani will have met both requirements after the 2017 season. Right now, he’s met neither.

The current CBA could be replaced by one as soon as Dec. 1, so it is possible that none of these current rules will apply. But if MLB continues to use current rules for international signees this offseason as expected, Otani would be treated the same way as a 22-year-old Cuban looking to sign.

That means that he is only eligible to sign a minor league deal with a signing bonus—no major league deals allowed. That in itself largely eliminates the chances of Otani being posted this offseason. While pretty much every major league team would have interest in bidding the $20 million maximum posting fee for the chance to negotiate a major league deal with Otani, the inability to sign him to a major league deal hurts the negotiation for both major league teams and for Otani.

For major league teams, it’s much easier to sign a top Japanese pitcher to a six-year, $60 million deal (like the one Yu Darvish received) where the paychecks are spread over many years, than it is to cut a one-time check of $50 million or $60 million to a player. From a cash-flow perspective, there are fewer teams that can get their ownership to spend such a large lump sum at one time.

And since Otani is subject to bonus pools, it wouldn’t just be a check to Otani. To sign Otani, a team would first have to pay Hokkaido the posting fee (up to $20 million), then pay Otani a sizeable signing bonus and then pay a 100 percent tax on that signing bonus to MLB. So if a team offered a hypothetical $50 million signing bonus for Otani, it would actually cost the team $120 million ($20 million posting fee + $50 million bonus + $50 million penalty tax).

And there are many reasons Otani would not want to be posted as well. Being posted this year would eliminate many of the teams Otani and his representatives would want to include in a bidding war. The Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox and Angels would be eliminated from consideration.

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Re: Draft/ International Signing Day? 

Post#315 » by Neddy » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:58 am

Meh, he wasn't gonna be available until 2018 anyway. if he is coming in 2017, I would be very surprised, knowing how JPB works.
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Otani Robbed of Unanimous MVP Vote 

Post#316 » by Ranma » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:26 am

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Otani to Be Posted After Next Season 

Post#317 » by Ranma » Mon Dec 5, 2016 5:30 am

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Shohei Otani Wants to Play Major League Baseball 

Post#318 » by Ranma » Tue Dec 6, 2016 9:54 am

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Nippon Ham Fighters slugging right-hander Shohei Otani said Monday he has told club officials of his desire to try his luck in the major leagues from 2018.

The 22-year-old, who re-signed with the Japan Series champ Fighters in a deal worth 270 million yen ($2.37 million) for the 2017 season on a 70 million yen pay raise, told officials he is eyeing the move in as early as the 2017 offseason.

"I know that the club will respect my will whenever I decide I want to go (to the majors). It's pleasing to get that support and I'm thankful for it," said Otani, the holder of Nippon Pro Baseball's fastest pitch record at 165 kilometers per hour.

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No Special Treatment for Otani 

Post#319 » by Ranma » Thu Dec 8, 2016 3:14 pm

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For the Love of the Game, Not Money 

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