Trade Ideas - Part 2

Post #1961 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:15 am

ohio wrote:
siar617 wrote:Haywood and the pick for Calderon, Tim Hardaway and trade exemption

Done deal...

Why would we trade a pick to eat Calderon's contract? The Knicks are considering moving back in the draft in order to dump it.

johnnyballgame · Post #1962 » by **johnnyballgame** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:40 pm

McKenna wrote:Cavs will pick up TMov's team option and it should never have been in doubt. Dude is a modern euro style friendly big with a unique skill set.

It's crazy that he was overlooked for so long. Big. Strong. Has a jumper. Had traditional big man moves. RUNS the floor. Has good hands.

You think how good he can be out of the gates next year.

Wait. Did you just say that Mozgov has good hands?
I guess I watched a different playoffs than you.

I'm not knocking anything else you implied, but if the guy could just catch the ball he would be elite. It may be all that's holding him back. His hands suck. He should yell at them during the game - talk to them, possibly sacrifice something to Jobu.

FrontPageNews · Post #1963 » by **FrontPageNews** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:28 am

siar617 wrote:Haywood and the pick for Calderon, Tim Hardaway and trade exemption

No thank you. We only have 2 roster spots to fill and I don't wanna waste one on Jose Calderon. We need a PG and SF. Ones who can shoot and play defense.

Hogified05 · Post #1964 » by **Hogified05** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:51 am

How about this one. This is dependent on Mudiay dropping to the Magic. Already got Elf and Vic no need for him.

Orlando get 7th and 24th pick
Denver get Mudiay, Haywood, Nicholson, Harkless
Cav get Lawson and Chandler

Yall get a helluva back up/insurance to Irving. Lawson would surely take a lesser role with yall to be on a contender. Chandler (keeping with the theme of NY leftovers) replaces JR. And if you face GS again next year (which I think is likely) Chandler becomes really important. He gives you the ability to match up with GS athletically with the small ball.

FrontPageNews · Post #1965 » by **FrontPageNews** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:25 am

Hogified05 wrote:How about this one. This is dependent on Mudiay dropping to the Magic. Already got Elf and Vic no need for him.

Orlando get 7th and 24th pick
Denver get Mudiay, Haywood, Nicholson, Harkless
Cav get Lawson and Chandler

Yall get a helluva back up/insurance to Irving. Lawson would surely take a lesser role with yall to be on a contender. Chandler (keeping with the theme of NY leftovers) replaces JR. And if you face GS again next year (which I think is likely) Chandler becomes really important. He gives you the ability to match up with GS athletically with the small ball.

We can in no way afford that

SaiCLE · Post #1966 » by **SaiCLE** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:30 pm

ohio wrote:
siar617 wrote:Haywood and the pick for Calderon, Tim Hardaway and trade exemption

Done deal...

Thank god you're not a GM

yoyoboy · Post #1967 » by **yoyoboy** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:45 pm

Hogified05 wrote:How about this one. This is dependent on Mudiay dropping to the Magic. Already got Elf and Vic no need for him.

Orlando get 7th and 24th pick
Denver get Mudiay, Haywood, Nicholson, Harkless
Cav get Lawson and Chandler

Yall get a helluva back up/insurance to Irving. Lawson would surely take a lesser role with yall to be on a contender. Chandler (keeping with the theme of NY leftovers) replaces JR. And if you face GS again next year (which I think is likely) Chandler becomes really important. He gives you the ability to match up with GS athletically with the small ball.

That would be amazing but I highly doubt Demver does that.

yoyoboy · Post #1968 » by **yoyoboy** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:57 pm

Garden Of Edens wrote:Bucks fan here. I saw you guys are looking to trade Haywood and a 1st. Our forum was discussing options. Would you do OJ Mayo for Haywood and 1st? or possibly a deal around Bayless. Both Mayo and Bayless could provide shooting/scoring

It all depends if JR resigns or not. If JR is back, I don't see a need for Mayo. If he leaves though that trade might make sense.

yoyoboy · Post #1969 » by **yoyoboy** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:59 pm

sfballa13 wrote:Denver gets: Irving, Varejao

Cleveland gets: Lawson, Chandler, Nurkic, #7

Lawson / Delladova
Shumpert / ----
Lebron / Chandler - Miller
Love / Thompson
Mozgov / Nurkic

Plus the #7 pick

The value is definitely good, but personally I like Kyrie too much to pull the trigger on a trade unless it's crazy value.

knicksfan1984 · Post #1970 » by **knicksfan1984** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:16 pm

siar617 wrote:Haywood and the pick for Calderon, Tim Hardaway and trade exemption

wouldn't deal Hardaway, even if it mean not getting the 24th pick. can't imagine Cleveland not doing a Calderon for Haywood swap unless there is a better deal out there.

Post #1971 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:34 am

knicksfan1984 wrote:
siar617 wrote:Haywood and the pick for Calderon, Tim Hardaway and trade exemption

wouldn't deal Hardaway, even if it mean not getting the 24th pick. can't imagine Cleveland not doing a Calderon for Haywood swap unless there is a better deal out there.

I can imagine it with minimal effort. We just waive Haywood and sign Mo Williams to the league minimum.

GaryTrent · Post #1972 » by **GaryTrent** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:18 pm

Thoughts on Bennett and Budinger +31 for Haywood + 24.

For Min Use Bennett to dump Budinger's salary
For Cleveland - Let Bennett learn under Love and Lebron and have Budinger to be a younger Mike Miller.

Dupp · Post #1973 » by **Dupp** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:05 am

Good value but Bennett is too fragile to have an impact in the playoffs. Not really what we need.

FrontPageNews · Post #1974 » by **FrontPageNews** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:23 am

GaryTrent wrote:Thoughts on Bennett and Budinger +31 for Haywood + 24.

For Min Use Bennett to dump Budinger's salary
For Cleveland - Let Bennett learn under Love and Lebron and have Budinger to be a younger Mike Miller.

You lost me at "Bennett learn"

Post #1975 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:08 am

GaryTrent wrote:Thoughts on Bennett and Budinger +31 for Haywood + 24.

For Min Use Bennett to dump Budinger's salary
For Cleveland - Let Bennett learn under Love and Lebron and have Budinger to be a younger Mike Miller.

We give Minny $10 million in cap relief and the better pick? If you're using Bennett to dump Budinger's contract, a dubious proposition, why are we sapping picks?

Even if you remove the pick swap, there's zero chance that Gilbert okays a trade that has him paying $30 million in luxury tax payments to add Bennett and Budinger to the roster.

Worm122 · Post #1976 » by **Worm122** » Sat Aug 8, 2015 5:11 pm

Tristan Thompson for Kevin Martin and Bennet

Darren · Post #1977 » by **Darren** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:39 am

Mozgov + Shumpert for Parsons + McGee + Memphis 2nd

Post #1978 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:00 am

Darren wrote:Mozgov + Shumpert for Parsons + McGee + Memphis 2nd

We can't give up Shump.

robbie84 · Post #1979 » by **robbie84** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:21 am

Cavs send:
Kevin Love
Jared Cunnigham

Celtics send:
Isaiah Thomas
Kelly Olynyk
Avery Bradley
2016 Celtics pick

OR

Celtics send:
Isaiah Thomas
Jae Crowder
Kelly Olynyk
2016 Celtics pick

Fair? More than enough? Future pick needed?

Post #1980 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:01 pm

robbie84 wrote:Cavs send:
Kevin Love
Jared Cunnigham

Celtics send:
Isaiah Thomas
Kelly Olynyk
Avery Bradley
2016 Celtics pick

OR

Celtics send:
Isaiah Thomas
Jae Crowder
Kelly Olynyk
2016 Celtics pick

Fair? More than enough? Future pick needed?

Not close. IT isn't needed on the Cavs. They already have Kyrie/Delly/Mo Williams. They don't need another undersized PG who is a defensive liability. The only trade that would make any sense for the Cavs would included Crowder, Kelly O, and Batum from Charlotte. Boston would have to pay the price for a half season rental of Batum which might actually mean Bradley and the 1st. Bradley is a nice piece but it's hard to see the value added to the Cavs who already have a Kyrie/Delly/Shump/JR rotation. Plus the Cavs like Cunningham. I'd probably send out J. Jones or Kuan or someone else. Honestly, I have a really hard time seeing the Cavs trading Love mid season.