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Post #61 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Wed Dec 5, 2012 10:10 pm

TruthTelling wrote:
B Mac wrote:Looks like Ben at RCF was wrong about the Lakers pick protection. The pick is protected like Realgm says it is. My apologies to those that I told were incorrect in this thread about the protection.

Still looking to be in good position with that pick though.

surprise

Still doesn't change the fact that you were wrong. I'm not sure why you'd be gloating

Post #62 » by **B Mac** » Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:19 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:
TruthTelling wrote:
B Mac wrote:Looks like Ben at RCF was wrong about the Lakers pick protection. The pick is protected like Realgm says it is. My apologies to those that I told were incorrect in this thread about the protection.

Still looking to be in good position with that pick though.

surprise

Still doesn't change the fact that you were wrong. I'm not sure why you'd be gloating

And actually the Lakers own beat writer came out today and said he doesnt think it's protected afterall... We just cant get a straight answer.

TruthTelling · Post #63 » by **TruthTelling** » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:29 am

From their point of view it is not protected at all since Phoenix will get the pick if it is in the lottery.

BossHoggin · Post #64 » by **BossHoggin** » Fri Dec 7, 2012 9:47 pm

I'm pretty sure I saw Amico on twitter say it isn't protected. Like I said before to someone who couldn't grasp the situation, conflicting reports.

Post #65 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:14 am

This confuses me,

Phoenix receives the Lakers' 2013 first-round pick (least favorable of picks sent to them for theirs from Cleveland) (Steve Nash trade 07-11-12)

To me this means that the Cavs still have first choice as to whether they want to switch picks with the Lakers. Phoenix gets whatever is left.

Am I interpreting this correctly?

However the choice is extinguished if it is lottery

Cavs have the right to swap first rounders with Lakers (their own, the Heats and the Kings). If Lakers 2013 first rounder is in lottery, pick is extinguished. (LeBron James trade 07-09-10)

Not sure how accurate this is but I got it form NBADraft.Net

Harper4Ferry? · Post #66 » by **Harper4Ferry?** » Sat Dec 8, 2012 5:34 am

The Suns get a pick from the Lakers. If it's not a lottery pick, it's the worse pick(closest to the end of the round) of the Lakers/Kings/Heat. If it's a lottery pick, the Suns get it.

Why are we still discussing this?

TruthTelling · Post #67 » by **TruthTelling** » Sat Dec 8, 2012 5:37 pm

The Suns own the Lakers pick.

The only way the Suns can't get it is if the Lakers make the playoffs because the Lakers owe the Cavs a protected pick.

In that case the Cavs have priority over the lottery protected pick. If the Lakers are in the lottery however the Suns will get the Lakers pick.

That is why it is confusing.

Post #68 » by **ATTL** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:26 am

As a Suns fan I had been searching for a long time on what kind of protection was on the pick. Thanks for clearing that up.

DEEP3CL · Post #69 » by **DEEP3CL** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:05 pm

TruthTelling wrote:The Suns own the Lakers pick.

The only way the Suns can't get it is if the Lakers make the playoffs because the Lakers owe the Cavs a protected pick.

In that case the Cavs have priority over the lottery protected pick. If the Lakers are in the lottery however the Suns will get the Lakers pick.

That is why it is confusing.

This is actually the correct information, the pick is Top 14 protected. Basically if Lakers end up lotto bound, the Suns possess the pick.

Here's a link with excellent information on how it breaks down.....

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/ba ... s/2013.htm

tundraknight · Post #70 » by **tundraknight** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:48 pm

Heres hoping the Lakers make the playoffs as an 8th seed!

Post #71 » by **B Mac** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:31 am

Too bad there is lotto protection on the pick at this point.

fart · Post #72 » by **fart** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:40 am

Are we sure there is protection on the pick? absorbing Walton's contract seems like a high price to pay for the right to swap a protected pick.

Harper4Ferry? · Post #73 » by **Harper4Ferry?** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:08 am

Yes. We are sure.

Roger Murdock · Post #74 » by **Roger Murdock** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:16 pm

The Lakers should just remove the restriction on the pick they owe us. I'm sure they would rather give a EC team a lotto pick than a WC team, and I don't think they make the playoffs.

fart · Post #75 » by **fart** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:24 pm

Grant is a fking moron. why the hell would he take on walton for the right to swap a protected pick?

Post #76 » by **B Mac** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:12 pm

fart wrote:Grant is a fking moron. why the hell would he take on walton for the right to swap a protected pick?

Dont forget he also got the Laker's first in the 2012 draft that helped to net us Tyler Zeller too.

SaiCLE · Post #77 » by **SaiCLE** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:17 am

We get to swap the Lakers pick. Luke Walton Is an expiring so relax, You guys are more tense than me.

kiwibrindle · Post #78 » by **kiwibrindle** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:10 pm

just hope Kobe stays healthy

Post #79 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:15 am

LOL, rooting for Kobe to stay healthy. Kobe keeps them competitive but he also seems to often be the reason that they lose. Much like early Jordan or even LeBron in early years. Superstars really should make sure they get other people off before they do it themselves.

Harper4Ferry? · Post #80 » by **Harper4Ferry?** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:09 pm

It appears that the lakers have probably bottomed out, and are 15-15.

With 52 games left, I see the possibilities as the following:

Lakers go 26-26 to finish...they really are a .500 team. We don't get the pick cause they miss the playoffs.

Lakers go 31-21. and continue the .600 basketball they've played the last few weeks. At 46-36 they are a borderline playoff team. If they get in with that record they send back pick 18-20

Lakers go 34-18(.650), finish with 49 wins. Most likely are a playoff lock with that record, and send back pick 20-22

Lakers go 37-15(.700ish), finish with 52 wins and send back 22-24

Lakers get red hot, go 42-10(.800ish) and finish with 57 wins. This nabs us pick 25-27.

The obvious factor that kind of sucks is that the bottom 3-4 eastern conference playoff qualifiers will easily be worse than the West #8 seed, so pick 18 or 19 is the best case scenario if they make the playoffs.