Tristan Thompson And The Fallout Of The New CBA

[touchvspice]

This is what happens when you overreach
http://ballnroll.com/basketball?post=1946

[jbk1234]

One would hope that someone in TT's camp is listening.

[ThirdEyeSharp]

Who wrote this article? Dwanye Wade and Chris Bosh agents are Henry Thomas.

The reason salary is going up around the NBA isn't because of a new CBA, it's because of a new TV deal. Players are guaranteed a certain amount of NBA revenue, and since revenue went up so does the cap. An 18M dollar deal will be about 15% of the cap in two to three years.


Also, statistically he is one of the top 3 pick and roll players in all of the NBA on both sides of the ball.

[rjgraca]

Yes, TT does a couple of things well (rebounding & P/R), but that doesn't make a good rotation role player, who is a boarder line starter, a max player or even a 5 yr $80 million a year player even with the salary cap dramatically increasing in the next couple of seasons. The TV contract is part of the CBA and new is a relative term... the most recent in this case.

As LBJ stated that the fans don't understand the business side of basketball which I assume he was talking about the players getting the most they can even if it doesn't make basketball sense for the team business wise. It comes down to whether LBJ is willing to risk his standing with the fans to blackmail (LBJ tax) the Cavs into over paying TT to the max or near the max. If he chooses that tax route and it doesn't work, it's still all on him if he leaves due to TT not being absurdly overpaid.

Tristan Thompson Tanking His Overall Value As Contract Negotiations Continue


What Thompson doesn’t seem to realize is that the longer negotiations last, the more his overall value goes down.

However, Thompson’s future with the team became uncertain when Cleveland re-signed Love to a five-year, $110 million deal in July, thus setting in stone that Thompson would be a backup once again if he re-signed with Cleveland.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbenjamin/2015/09/21/tristan-thompson-tanking-his-overall-value-as-negotiations-continue/

Tristan Thompson should ask Anderson Varejao about the value of holding out

It was eight years ago at this time that two Cavaliers, Sasha Pavlovic and Anderson Varejao, found themselves in much the same position as Thompson. They were restricted free agents who had not come to terms with the team, and had not signed the qualifying offer by the Oct. 1 deadline. Their holdouts dragged on, Pavlovic’s until Oct. 30 and Varejao’s until Dec. 5. Though then-general manager Danny Ferry is long gone, it’s safe to say owner Dan Gilbert learned something from that experience.

Mostly, he learned that restricted free agency in the NBA is overwhelmingly weighted toward the teams. If an owner waits long enough, he will win.

Varejao came up empty, too, and his case is the more significant of the two. His agent, Dan Fegan, had hoped to use Varejao’s situation to set a precedent in restricted free agency, aiming to upend the way the system favors owners so completely. Varejao averaged 6.8 points and 6.7 rebounds the previous year, yet was looking for a deal at about $10 million per season.

Varejao’s holdout was extraordinary for its length. But it did nothing to change the balance of power in restricted free agency. He wound up signing a three-year offer sheet with Charlotte worth $17 million over three years, and despite Varejao going through the motion of saying he did not want to play for the Cavs again (a tactic restricted free agents have since used frequently, to no avail), Cleveland subsequently matched it.

With Kevin Love and Timofey Mozgov getting healthy, this version of the Cavaliers is more suited to withstand time without Thompson than the woefully thin 2007-08 version was able to withstand the Varejao and Pavlovic holdouts.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2015-10-02/cleveland-cavaliers-holdout-tristan-thompson-lebron-james-agent-anderson-varejao-sasha-pavlovic

[ThirdEyeSharp]

How does it not make a good rotation player? The best offenses in the NBA have great pick and roll players. Top 5 in total offensive rebounds off the bench. 1.25 PPP as the roll man, .68 as the defender of a pick and roll. He's an elite pick and roll player. Elite rebounder. That doesn't make a good rotation player?

Would you be willing to say that Thompson isn't one of the 20 best power forwards in the NBA?

I don't think he's worth the max but he's definitely worth keeping on this team and is definitely an integral piece in contending for a title with no apparent replacement in sight. Love and Varejao miss time every year it seems.

Don't underestimate the value of depth, and having starter quality players on the bench.