official Spring Training Thread

Dr. Detfink · Post #16 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:48 am

Pineda didn't look particularly sharp but he's mixing that pitch so he's not always having to dial up 95mph on the gun.

Pharmcat · Post #17 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:49 pm

pineada lack of velocity is a bit concerning

Pharmcat · Post #18 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:29 am

i was watching Mos interview on yes, and damn, i get the feeling this is the last year for him :/

Dr. Detfink · Post #19 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:47 pm

Hey Mo didn't like at all how Pettitte, Posada, and Jeter were treated by the organization when it came to the re-ups. He didn't say anything but Red Sox were talking to him...which is something you DIDN'T hear about in the past.

What's going to be hard to bite...Mo has 2 maybe 3 great seasons left but he realizes the organization motto is, "Win a World Series BUT..." and not George's at any cost.

Rivera is Batman...let the battle for the Cowl begin: Hughes, Joba, Robertson, Soriano, etc...

Dr. Detfink · Post #20 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:12 pm

Kuroda looked alright against the Astros...3 innings 2 hits, 2Ks.

Right now, I am most concerned with Hughes & Nova's progress. BOTH those guys will be relied on A LOT MORE than Pineda or Kuroda.

Dr. Detfink · Post #21 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:10 pm

Nova looked good...

Pharmcat · Post #22 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:31 am

ibanez is 2 for 24 this spring training :roll:

Dr. Detfink · Post #23 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:35 pm

Wang outdueled Pineda...and I'm convinced more than ever against the freaking Nationals in Preseason that he needs to start the season in the minors getting into shape, working on rebuilding his arm strength, and command of his third pitch. I think this kid is great but fact is, he's not in shape...and there's no need to rush him.

Still worried bout Kuroda.

GnarlesOakley · Post #24 » by **GnarlesOakley** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:41 pm

I'm not too worried about Pineda, the fact that his secondary stuff looks good is promising. We don't need him throwing 95s and wearing his arm out in meaningless games. Taking a while to get in shape hasn't exactly hurt CC, has it?

Dr. Detfink · Post #25 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:05 pm

It did hurt CC in the second half of the season when the Yanks foolishly shrugged off losing the East to the Rays. Prompting CC to drop weight and Yanks muse over a weight clause....

So YES...weight matters for example when Wells back gave out against the Marlins in 2003 WS.

YES fat men don't do well over time like Colon...whose "stem cells" only lasted so long....

WHY you ask? Power pitching comes from the legs that support that weight. Pitching is not about knuckle dragging kids.

So far, I have it going: CC, Nova, Pettitte, Hughes, and that pitcher who left California kicking and screaming...

Dr. Detfink · Post #26 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:28 pm

Boone Logan had a rough outing. Hall can hit but his fielding at 3B is horrific.

Pharmcat · Post #27 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:34 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:It did hurt CC in the second half of the season when the Yanks foolishly shrugged off losing the East to the Rays. Prompting CC to drop weight and Yanks muse over a weight clause....

So YES...weight matters for example when Wells back gave out against the Marlins in 2003 WS.

YES fat men don't do well over time like Colon...whose "stem cells" only lasted so long....

WHY you ask? Power pitching comes from the legs that support that weight. Pitching is not about knuckle dragging kids.

So far, I have it going: CC, Nova, Pettitte, Hughes, and that pitcher who left California kicking and screaming...

actually brian cashman explained the weight clause....he said his previous experience resulted in a player becoming under pressure and force vomiting to lose the weight, so he doesnt bother with it, think its counterproductive

Pharmcat · Post #28 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:35 pm

GnarlesOakley wrote:I'm not too worried about Pineda, the fact that his secondary stuff looks good is promising. We don't need him throwing 95s and wearing his arm out in meaningless games. Taking a while to get in shape hasn't exactly hurt CC, has it?

he wont throw his changeup in the games when it matters b/c its hard to trust it....its the same problem phil and AJ had with it

Dr. Detfink · Post #29 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:19 pm

Betances looked alright....still working on his control like most big guys.

Pharmcat · Post #30 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:35 am

pineada doesnt look like hes ready at all

Dr. Detfink · Post #31 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:21 am

That's why I feel it's not a bad thing to have both Pettitte and Garcia who can contribute till the kids come around.

Christophersp10 · Post #32 » by **Christophersp10** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:44 pm

Pharmcat wrote:pineada doesnt look like hes ready at all

hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Did we watch the same game? Pineda had a minor shaky first inning which included Martin throwing error where the guy stealing second base should have been out by a Mile. McCutchen is a good hitter who fouled off several balls before hitting a homerun. Martin makes a proper throw and that first inning is a different story

Pineda ended up getting 5 k's to 1 walk

Pharmcat · Post #33 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:22 pm

per marchand pineada came in 20lbs overweight, not the 10 we heard

no wonder SEA wanted him gone, no velocity, cant stay in shape....seems like cash didnt do his hw

Dr. Detfink · Post #34 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:39 pm

"The most important thing that I wanted to accomplish was the feeling for the real game, and I think I was able to do that, so I'm happy," Kuroda said through a translator. "I think there was something that I gained from this outing. I made sure that I had all my pitches, and I was able to throw a lot of good pitches."

Riiiiight....What's up with the Yanks luck with Japanese pitching? Just rough.

Today, Phil Hughes is looking to lock up the #3 spot in the rotation.

Christophersp10 · Post #35 » by **Christophersp10** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:40 pm

oooo no, he came in overweight. head for the hills.

I guess you forgot about the growing pains and immaturity that Jesus went through.

He cant stay in shape? Guy has played 1 season in baseball. When has he showed a history of not staying in shape?

Tell me, how big is CC? How big was David Wells from 1997-1998? Did the Yankees get burned on either?

No Veloicity? Pineda had 5 k's in 3 innings to 1 walk yesterday and was hitting 94 MILES PER HOUR in spring training.