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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Zki41 on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:12 pm

JES12 wrote:
Zki41 wrote:Terry isn't automatically renounced due to signing with Boston?

He has not been announced in Boston to my knowledge and no official signing has occured yet on nba.com's transaction list. At this point, I am under the assumption that he has not officially signed yet.


Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Dirk Nowitzki on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:35 pm

JES12 wrote:We did not have to renounce anything to place the bid, but we had to be able to get below the cap to win the bid. We can do that by renouncing Terry, all the other vet min guys, the MLE, the BAE and the TPEs.


Got it.

So all the Mavs have left is the 4.8M to sign players. A minimum bid for Scola would have to be around 3.3M probably.

West would have to sign here for very cheap again...
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Soupman on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:51 pm

Do we still have our BAE after we go over the cap?
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby MavfanAus on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:06 pm

Another steal, this season started crap but we've recovered a little.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby zaman314125 on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:12 pm

I honestly thought Brand was going for 5-6 mil dollar range. 2.1 mil for a former all-star with a one year contract who is, I think, number 1 in post defense... simply amazing by Cuban and Donnie. I knew it, there's no way an owner and a GM goes 11 years of 50 win seasons without being creative the way they've been.

I'm not sure if the Mavericks will place a bid on Scola. Eventually minutes won't be there for everyone, but it would be intriguing to see what Carlisle would do with that "deep" front court.

I'm hot and cold about Calderon, love his one year contract, but I want to see a quick young point guard to actually start for the Mavs. Once Carlisle get his veteran, then Collison is back in the dog house.

All in all, AWESOME move by Cuban and Donnie. Hope there is more to come.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby MavfanAus on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:24 pm

The best part about landing Brand is that we'll finally have a guy come in at PF when Dirk is resting who will provide a solid offensive and defensive game. Brand is still a very good offensive rebounder. In Philly (his declining years) he never averaged under 2 per game.

Throw in the fact that he and Kaman know each others games from their clippers days (former starting front court) and this is fantastic. They may not be the same players as they were then, but the biggest issue we've had over the last couple of years is when Dirk is off the floor, we get rolled.

I really really like this move. Adding two bigs that can put the ball in the hole was really important. Even in our championship season, with Tyson there we were still very one dimensional in the post offensively. Kaman/Brand fixes that issue and I think that is going to take a lot of pressure off Dirk at his age now.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby branny on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:28 am

Getting Scola for less than 15/3 would be excellent but I'd like Wright to get some minutes..

I hope they're able to sign some shooters though. Shannon Brown, Randy Foye, Courtney Lee and Belinelli all come to mind.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Zki41 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:01 am

I think there is a good chance we get Scola for 3.3m a year for 3 years which is the minimum bid. If none of the teams with capspace bid more than 2.1m for Brand, who is on a one year deal, why would they pay more for Scola? He is Dallas' if Dallas wants him. I think it's probably a good idea to bid on Scola if we can. We all know Carlisle loves his small ball, so Brand will get some time at center. Scola can play next to Brand during those small ball sets when Dirk is resting. Kaman is a little injury prone too, so his minutes will need to be watched. It's very possible that all four of them average around 24-25 minutes a night. On more competitive nights, Dirk and Kaman might approach 30 and Brand and Scola 20. A very competitive, well rested big man rotation is a very, very good thing to have. You can never have too many big guys who can play. They will be well rested for the playoffs.

Maybe I am over-optimistic, but I really think if Scola joins and we get a decent perimeter shooter than we can make another deep playoff run. I feel this team can become superior to the Clippers and Grizzlies and become a top four seed and advance out of the first round at a minimum. If Marion doesn't decline and Collison shows us what he showed the world when he played in New Orleans, then the sky is the limit. I really think the success of this team depends on Collison providing all-star level guard play, but by talent and size alone I think we are at least a second round team.
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Postby Brovva Blaqq on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:20 am

You got to give credit to your GM and owner, they did a really good job this offseason.
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Postby HMFFL on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:31 pm

Brovva Blaqq wrote:You got to give credit to your GM and owner, they did a really good job this offseason.


Cuban and Nelson most certainly did a good job. Not that this was their plan B, but it's worked out nicely, and we actually have a solid group of players that should keep things interesting.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Texas Chuck on Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:02 pm

meh not sure what everyone is so excited about--our guards are still mostly d-league quality and we still dont have a legit pg and we need another professional scorer. Now maybe we get West back and he and Collison can give us marginally acceptable pg play and maybe Roddy B can provide a consistent scoring punch off the bench in the Jet role but Im still underwhelmed. Plus we dont have a legit backup for Matrix (sorry Vince) so if he goes down we are in big trouble. This roster still has major issues to be resolved.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Zki41 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:12 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:meh not sure what everyone is so excited about--our guards are still mostly d-league quality and we still dont have a legit pg and we need another professional scorer. Now maybe we get West back and he and Collison can give us marginally acceptable pg play and maybe Roddy B can provide a consistent scoring punch off the bench in the Jet role but Im still underwhelmed. Plus we dont have a legit backup for Matrix (sorry Vince) so if he goes down we are in big trouble. This roster still has major issues to be resolved.


Crowder and Carter will probably play back up minutes for Shawn Marion.

Collison can ball. He might not have Kidd's intangibles, but he is going to be a net positive over Kidd. This guy is actually a versatile player and can score, and is great in pick and roll situations. That's the kind of guard Dirk compliments.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby MavfanAus on Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:55 am

Texas Chuck wrote:meh not sure what everyone is so excited about--our guards are still mostly d-league quality and we still dont have a legit pg and we need another professional scorer. Now maybe we get West back and he and Collison can give us marginally acceptable pg play and maybe Roddy B can provide a consistent scoring punch off the bench in the Jet role but Im still underwhelmed. Plus we dont have a legit backup for Matrix (sorry Vince) so if he goes down we are in big trouble. This roster still has major issues to be resolved.


Collison is not a future all star but to call him D-League quality is just idiotic.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby Texas Chuck on Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:52 am

Collison,West,Dontae,Roddy,Cunningham,DoJo---thats got to be a bottom 5 backcourt in the NBA. Not a single even average starter in the group. Collison,West, and Dontae are all respectable backups and the other 3 arent even that. We need to add at minimum one more upgrade to that group and Id prefer two.
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Re: Mavericks get Brand for 2.1mil

Postby DMavs412 on Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:34 pm

Im sure the mavs front office isnt finishing working on the backcourt. But, if they are, Id be fine letting that backcourt play out the season and hopfully find a star in one of them.
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