Should I bet a lot of money on the Jays?

[Mattd97]

His point is that, at $25-100, it's a form of entertainment, not a business model.

A lot of money can mean 1,000,000. Or his life savings.

25-100 bucks is cool but he would say 25-100 bucks, not "a lot of money". Not to sound snobby or anything but if you consider 25-100 bucks a "lot of money", you might want to switch careers.

If its 25 dollars sure, go ahead, or even 100.

not only do you sound snobby, but pretty foolish. clearly theres context to "a lot of money". one would imagine he meant in the context of spending some money on long-term online sports gambling - not buying a house.

[Hamyltowne]

His point is that, at $25-100, it's a form of entertainment, not a business model.

A lot of money can mean 1,000,000. Or his life savings.

25-100 bucks is cool but he would say 25-100 bucks, not "a lot of money". Not to sound snobby or anything but if you consider 25-100 bucks a "lot of money", you might want to switch careers.

Until you learn what "a lot" means, do not pretend a knowledge of semantics.

[Hamyltowne]

That goes to the OP, too. It would have prevented the predictable carping on the part of flatjacket1

[satyr9]

IMO there's rarely a candidate for locking on this board, thankfully, but because of how this prgoressed I'd say this one's pretty close.

[tecumseh18]

Just chiming in to agree with flatjacket. The overall context of this thread is whether wagering "a lot of money" - which could easily mean $1,000 - on the Jays is a good decision. Flatjacket's first post nailed it, and lucky's response was pure douchebaggery. Here's a (non-betting) tip: any post that begins "STFU" is problematic - at best.

Additional context, flatjacket provides a lot of value to this board. Lucky not so much. Make of that what you will.

[Hamyltowne]

Just chiming in to agree with flatjacket. The overall context of this thread is whether wagering "a lot of money" - which could easily mean $1,000 - on the Jays is a good decision.

What?!

Do you really think the OP started a thread to seek approval on how to spend a thousand dollars (or more!) gambling on sports?

In my experience, such irresponsible characters do not let their message-board brethren fact-check the bettings.

This is unforgivable. You really believe that these are the words of a man about to bet more than two figures:

The Jays are looking real good and for the past 3 season I have always been saying Jays have great future. I may be biased but I honestly feel like they will do well either this year or next. What do you think?

There isn't a word of money or odds or any such nonsense. If I had the creativity of flatjacket1, I'd write that the OP was merely asking if he should have high hopes for the Jays this season. And, hey, since time is money, perhaps he was wondering how much time he should spend watching games, reading box-scores, blogs, attending games, and so on. It's very plausible, especially considering he didn't mention money in his post.

Enough, already! flatjacket1 knows he is wrong and has too much pride to let Schad be the voice of reason. Lucky26 was wrong to include 'STFU' in his rebuttal. Still, dragging this out is insufferable.

25-100 bucks is cool but he would say 25-100 bucks, not "a lot of money". Not to sound snobby or anything but if you consider 25-100 bucks a "lot of money", you might want to switch careers.

Commenting, publicly, on how much "a lot of money" should be--or not be--is vulgar.

Additional context, flatjacket provides a lot of value to this board. Lucky not so much. Make of that what you will.

Additional correction: flatjacket1 provides much carping to the board.

*Edited to put key parts of the quotations in bold

[flatjacket1]

His point is that, at $25-100, it's a form of entertainment, not a business model.

A lot of money can mean 1,000,000. Or his life savings.

25-100 bucks is cool but he would say 25-100 bucks, not "a lot of money". Not to sound snobby or anything but if you consider 25-100 bucks a "lot of money", you might want to switch careers.

Until you learn what "a lot" means, do not pretend a knowledge of semantics.

Listen. If a friend came to be and told me he wanted to drop "a lot of money" on a sports bet, I'd tell him to try something else.

My first post on this thread was simple and was intended to discourage "a lot of money" going towards a sports bet on a team that in my opinion did not improve the 10 wins needed to even make the playoffs.

[tecumseh18]

This is unforgivable.

I have to admit, Hamyltowne, I'm a sucker for anyone who can express himself in an entertaining way. Congrats. You've at least convinced me that there's another side to the argument.

[Hamyltowne]

Listen. If a friend came to be and told me he wanted to drop "a lot of money" on a sports bet, I'd tell him to try something else.

My first post on this thread was simple and was intended to discourage "a lot of money" going towards a sports bet on a team that in my opinion did not improve the 10 wins needed to even make the playoffs.

I agree, gambling is wrong. We should discourage it. But, to your point:

What in the first post of this thread gave you the impression that a large amount of money would be wagered on the Blue Jays this season?

Was it this:

The Jays are looking real good and for the past 3 season I have always been saying Jays have great future. I may be biased but I honestly feel like they will do well either this year or next. What do you think?

It reads like a Russian attempting small-talk at the water cooler.

How can you extrapolate any amount of money from those three (!) sentences?

Better still, how can you deduce intent from those 3 sentences? He didn't give numbers or odds. He didn't even get specific on whether it would be "this year or next." Can one bet on a team's performance over two cumulative seasons?

Is this the language of a man about to wager many dollars on a baseball season? He has no confidence and shows no interest in seeking objective data. Gambling requires both.

Men who gamble large sums follow a certain pathology. Their emotions usually betray them as the irrational losers they are. But with the OP, we read a lackadaisical set of sentences that could not possibly be construed as a preliminary to a large wager.

Check the stats. He is a new member--less than two months old--trying to get a conversation going about the Jays and their chances this season. He probably can't be bothered to read the long threads, so he starts a new one.

Somewhere inside you know this, but you are, as Churchill once said, a bull who carries his own china shop around with him.

[Lucky26]

What the hell happened? This thread blew up and I never intended it to happen this way.

A few things:

1. I don't use it very often, but started it with STFU because initiallly, as an amateur gambler, I was excited to see a sports betting thread on the Jays. I just put down 50$ on them and was excited until I saw Flatjacket's post, which was the first one.

2. How do I check my stats to see if I have value on this board? My post count and history got deleted and reset a few years ago and I'm still upset about that because I don't post often, but I don't make a fool of myself either.

3. Flatjacket: I do need to switch careers, thanks for that guidance. Not all of us on this board are millionaires like you, or have friends who come up to you asking you if they should put their house down on a Jays winning the World Series.

4. SHad & Hamyltowne: Thanks for coming to my defense and bringing common sense to a board that sometimes may have a few ignorant kids, who may or may not have a job yet but have very high expectations of what they think they might make and therefore assume they know what "a lot of money" is for a working man who pays rent, expenses, and tries to save money in this bastard of economy.

Flatjacket, not saying or assuming you are a kid/teenager; but you come off sounding like one. Oh by the way, you don't get a lot of return in investing in "bonds, or something like that".

I do agree that you can lose a lot of money in gambling like I did playing poker; but if your a sports nut like me, and do your research and game day notes very carefully, you can make money sports betting.

[Sifu]

You know what, everybody do this:
1) Sell your house
2) Bet on the Jays

Lucky seems to think this is a successful business model. Put your kids education funds on this team too.

Done! I just sold my house and kids RESP funds on the over for the Jays!!! I'm so psyched man! Thanks for the awesome betting tip.

[flatjacket1]

3. Flatjacket: I do need to switch careers, thanks for that guidance. Not all of us on this board are millionaires like you, or have friends who come up to you asking you if they should put their house down on a Jays winning the World Series.

Flatjacket, not saying or assuming you are a kid/teenager; but you come off sounding like one. Oh by the way, you don't get a lot of return in investing in "bonds, or something like that".

I do agree that you can lose a lot of money in gambling like I did playing poker; but if your a sports nut like me, and do your research and game day notes very carefully, you can make money sports betting.

I have no problem with amateur gamblers. I said before if its under 100 bucks and you can afford it, its like the same thing as going to a movie theater (depending on the entertainment value you get from betting).

Bonds don't have great returns but certain inflation protected bonds or even bonds that fall bellow type A can yield decent returns. Not like winning the lottery, but a person could live a very comfortable life (early retirement and such) by stabilizing their portfolio with bonds especially with how the stock markets been. I am no expert in business I just grew up with a dad as a stock broker and his biggest clients always restricted him to bonds, not stock.

This whole thread has turned to garbage now, clearly the intents of the thread were pure but its just become a mess. It should be locked IMO.

I'm sorry to all I have offended but my intents were to stop a man (or woman) from betting a large sum of money on the Jays. I just feel that is a terrible idea. If you truly believe in it, all I have to say is that it is a free country.

[beater97]

This thread is hilarious. Just got completely sidetracked and probably ruined by flatjacket1.

[Modern_epic]

He certainly didn't help, but a) sidetracking it was really a group effort, led by him, and b) it's not like this thread was going to go anywhere particularly interesting had he not sidetracked it.

(I realize this may just sidetrack the thread in a different direction, but it's not like it can get any more pointless.)

[tecumseh18]

(I realize this may just sidetrack the thread in a different direction, but it's not like it can get any more pointless.)

Yeah, at this point we're trolling the mods, daring them to lock it.

Although I have to admit, I continue to be amused that the thread heading "Should I bet a lot of money on the Jays?" is reproduced above everyone's post, despite the this apparent consensus that the OP isn't asking whether he should bet a lot of money on the Jays.

But then, I'm just easily amused.