2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

dagger · Post #1281 » by **dagger** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:37 pm

L.B. Danzler has been a bit of a disappointment, albeit with some injuries, but he does deserve props for what he does well.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/LT__Murray/status/501511727662764032[/tweet]

Post #1282 » by **Schad** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:36 am

jalenrose#5 wrote:Does anyone have any info on Gregory Infante? He's got 19 Saves with NH and sporting a nice 2.08 ERA along with pitching 42 innings 40 K/16 BB and only 27 hits allowed. At 6'2" and almost 220 pounds he's a name I'm keeping an eye on.

He's a reclamation project. Live-arm type with very spotty control who came up in the White Sox organization and had a cup of coffee with the big club in 2010. Easily posting the best numbers of his career, but he's only a few months removed from absolutely imploding in the Dodgers system...bullpen arms sometimes figure out late, but at age 27 he'll need a longer track record of control to get consideration at the big league level.

Graham's Cracker · Post #1283 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:40 am

Danny Barnes gives up 5 runs in one inning of D-Jays 10-9 win. That's how you earn the hold.

dagger · Post #1284 » by **dagger** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:57 pm

Career saved

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blaateeee · Post #1285 » by **blaateeee** » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:56 pm

Pompey goes yard in 3rd inning, leggo.

There There · Post #1286 » by **There There** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:15 am

cameo60 wrote:Pompey goes yard in 3rd inning, leggo.

Ho hum... I want to know what happened in his first at bat that stopped the fly ball from clearing the fences.

Seriously though, the kid has a chance to be really good, that much is becoming apparent.

Lateral Quicks · Post #1287 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:32 am

Anthony Gose with the golden sombrero tonight in Buffalo. It's like he pouts every time he's sent down.

dagger · Post #1288 » by **dagger** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:50 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DaltonPompey/status/501923196304916480[/tweet]

Ado05 · Post #1289 » by **Ado05** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:19 am

dagger wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DaltonPompey/status/501923196304916480[/tweet]

Dont really follow the minor league guys, but are they rushing him?

Norris seemed like an early call up too, but he's been sharp since moving to triple A.

Post #1290 » by **Schad** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:29 am

Aint Right wrote:
dagger wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DaltonPompey/status/501923196304916480[/tweet]

Dont really follow the minor league guys, but are they rushing him?

Norris seemed like an early call up too, but he's been sharp since moving to triple A.

Guessing they want to get a look at Pompey in AAA before the season ends. It was quite likely that he'd start next season there, but I'd be pretty surprised if they were thinking of bringing him up in September (even though he'll need to go on the 40-man in the off-season to steer clear of the Rule 5 draft). Looks to me like they're setting him up as an all-goes-well June/July call-up next year...could potentially see them handing him the starting job in CF when Rasmus walks, but I wouldn't exactly recommend it. Personally, I'd like him to get the better part of a year in at AAA unless he's utterly overkill at the level.

As for Norris, I dunno. I think that burning an option year/40-man spot so that he can pitch in the bullpen in an increasingly-meaningless September would be utterly idiotic, whether they agree remains to be seen. He'll have a shot at a rotation spot out of spring, but ideally he'd get 5-7 starts in Buffalo before getting considered.

dagger · Post #1291 » by **dagger** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:29 am

Aint Right wrote:
dagger wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DaltonPompey/status/501923196304916480[/tweet]

Dont really follow the minor league guys, but are they rushing him?

Norris seemed like an early call up too, but he's been sharp since moving to triple A.

Rushing him? His numbers are good, his power is increasing, his tools are undeniable. More likely the Jays are becoming a little less conservative, perhaps because of Norris, Sanchez, etc. I'm sure they are hoping Pompey plays well enough for a mid-2015 promotion.

If the Jays lose Melky or have to trade Jose or Edwin, Next season is going to be about selling hope, not wins.

Lateral Quicks · Post #1292 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:17 am

More curious timing on the promotion, coming only one day after his return from injury.

Michael Bradley · Post #1293 » by **Michael Bradley** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:30 am

It could be a job saving attempt by AA, but assuming Norris and Pompey remain in AAa for the remainder of this season and beginning of next (rather than being Sept call ups), I like it. Good players need to be promoted quickly. These guys are doing well and have the tools to be very good. If they look too good for whatever level they are in, and have the peripherals to back it up, then promote them.

But yeah, if this leads to a Sept call up or him being starting CF next season, then it would be a mistake. He should get at least half a season in AAA. Same with Norris, though he might be a little more ready.

Fairview4Life · Post #1294 » by **Fairview4Life** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:05 pm

**** it. Call them all up. Is there really that much to lose? Let's say they both fall flat on their face in September. Is that really a career killer?

Lateral Quicks · Post #1295 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:45 pm

My sincere hope is that we don't ruin Pompey the way the Marlins ruined Marisnick. The latter was called up way, way too soon, and predictably fell flat on his face. He hasn't been the same since, even in the minors.

Realistically I don't know enough about Pompey to assess whether this is a good move or not, but for most guys barely more than 100 plate appearances at AA isn't enough. But as others have said - including me - he isn't "most guys", at least when it comes to his tools and mindset.

Edit: Marisnick is actually showing signs of life in Houston in a SSS.

dagger · Post #1296 » by **dagger** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:50 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:My sincere hope is that we don't ruin Pompey the way the Marlins ruined Marisnick. The latter was called up way, way too soon, and predictably fell flat on his face. He hasn't been the same since, even in the minors.

Actually, since being traded to Houston, Jake has been doing a lot better. He's playing better than our own CF.

Raps_Swingman · Post #1297 » by **Raps_Swingman** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:10 pm

Glad to see Pompey on the up and up. Might go check out a Bisons game next time Norris pitches(if he's their for more then 1 start).

I have a feeling this thread is going to get a lot busier….which I had hoped wouldn't happen. At least not for the Jays doing their Leafs impression. Toronto sports teams are a joke.

Michael Bradley · Post #1298 » by **Michael Bradley** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:37 pm

To me the biggest indicator for hitting prospects is BB:K. Power can develop, but if a player has plate discipline and can make contact, that's usually a good sign. Pompey is doing well in that area, nevermind his plus speed and defense. Still, I hope he spends half a season in AAA before (best case) taking over in CF mid-2015.

Modern_epic · Post #1299 » by **Modern_epic** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:42 pm

dagger wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:My sincere hope is that we don't ruin Pompey the way the Marlins ruined Marisnick. The latter was called up way, way too soon, and predictably fell flat on his face. He hasn't been the same since, even in the minors.

Actually, since being traded to Houston, Jake has been doing a lot better. He's playing better than our own CF.

I wanted this to be right, since I liked Marisnick as a prospect, but nope.

Since Marisnick debuted with the Astros on August 1st, he has an OPS of .653 (.270/.288/.365), versus a .718 OPS (.250/.318/.400) for Rasmus over the same period. He's been clearly worse than Rasmus over that time. He may be doing better than with the fish, but it was almost impossible not to be. He is still terrible.

dagger · Post #1300 » by **dagger** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:49 pm

Raps_Swingman wrote:Glad to see Pompey on the up and up. Might go check out a Bisons game next time Norris pitches(if he's their for more then 1 start).

I have a feeling this thread is going to get a lot busier….which I had hoped wouldn't happen. At least not for the Jays doing their Leafs impression. Toronto sports teams are a joke.

Norris pitches tomorrow.