2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

[Raps_Swingman]

Hoff got touched up in that 2nd inning. But looks like the stuff is there after TJ surgery. Will be interesting to see how his next few starts go and how fast AA has him up in New Hampshire. My money is on end of June.

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Went five innings, and if you take out his second inning (4ER, 4 hits), he was strong.

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[Lateral Quicks]

Okay, this should ensure he isn't working out of the Jays pen tomorrow.

Actually, he'd fit right in.

[Lateral Quicks]

I read that Hoff pitched 120+ innings one year. Does that make it more likely that he can pitch a full season (170+ innings) as early as next season, assuming of course the stuff is there? Or do they limit his innings next year given the proximity to Tommy John?

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I don;t have Anthony Alford's up-to-date OBP after tonight's game, but before the Lansing game it was .447 and he had a hit and two walks in five appearances. Rowdy Tellez was 3-3 with a pair of doubles and three RBIs. Chase De Jong had a nice start: 8.2 IP, I, 2R, 6H, 0BB, 6K. He got to pitch deep into the game because the final score was 17-2 for Lansing.

[Nights King]

You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

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You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

I didn't forget him. It was a 16-hit night, and I chose the guys I wanted to highlight. Jansen was one of many contributors. Chris Carlson also had three hits.

[Schad]

You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

Potentially. My love for Jansen knows few bounds, but his batted ball splits are nuts...lots and lots of pop-ups and shallow flies, which don't equate to much production, and very few line drives. When he connects it travels, though.

Still think he's a good bet to break out in the next couple seasons, but that will need to be fixed if he's to progress.

[Nights King]

You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

I didn't forget him. It was a 16-hit night, and I chose the guys I wanted to highlight. Jansen was one of many contributors. Chris Carlson also had three hits.

Sorry I didn't mean that in an aggressive way

[Nights King]

You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

Potentially. My love for Jansen knows few bounds, but his batted ball splits are nuts...lots and lots of pop-ups and shallow flies, which don't equate to much production, and very few line drives. When he connects it travels, though.

Still think he's a good bet to break out in the next couple seasons, but that will need to be fixed if he's to progress.

Using batted ball to infer mechanical problems is highly problematic but doing it with minor league data in a small sample size literally tells you nothing imo

[Schad]

You forgot Dan Jansen who is probably the best prospect in Lansing right now. Even after a 3/4 night his average is still only at .216 but he has a phenomenal K to BB ratio and he's hitting for enough power

Potentially. My love for Jansen knows few bounds, but his batted ball splits are nuts...lots and lots of pop-ups and shallow flies, which don't equate to much production, and very few line drives. When he connects it travels, though.

Still think he's a good bet to break out in the next couple seasons, but that will need to be fixed if he's to progress.

Using batted ball to infer mechanical problems is highly problematic but doing it with minor league data in a small sample size literally tells you nothing imo

He had two at-bats classified as line drives on balls in the park through 100+ PAs. He had fifteen classified as pop-ups. His BABIP is the primary reason his overall numbers are bad, but that gives one a pretty good sense of why his BABIP is so poor.

[Nights King]

Potentially. My love for Jansen knows few bounds, but his batted ball splits are nuts...lots and lots of pop-ups and shallow flies, which don't equate to much production, and very few line drives. When he connects it travels, though.

Still think he's a good bet to break out in the next couple seasons, but that will need to be fixed if he's to progress.

Using batted ball to infer mechanical problems is highly problematic but doing it with minor league data in a small sample size literally tells you nothing imo

He had two at-bats classified as line drives on balls in the park through 100+ PAs. He had fifteen classified as pop-ups. His BABIP is the primary reason his overall numbers are bad, but that gives one a pretty good sense of why his BABIP is so poor.

There's a lot of luck involved in batted balls as well, BABIP isn't just an explanation for a low AVG when people have ideal batted ball rates{and there's really no such thing) but bad luck is a cause for batted ball numbers looking wonky as well.

And those 15 popups are honestly meaningless, they tell me he hit 15 popups, not that he's having mechanical problems.

[Schad]

And those 15 popups are honestly meaningless, they tell me he hit 15 popups, not that he's having mechanical problems.

Didn't say it was a mechanical problem, but 15% of his at-bats ending in popups is absolutely a problem to be fixed, particularly as they're paired with a lot of shallow fly balls. He put the ball in the air a lot last year; this season, he has been one of the most extreme flyball hitters in the minor leagues. Gotta have a lot of power to make that work long-term.

[Graham's Cracker]

Good day for pitching prospects today Norris, Tinoco and Labourt

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Norris with 3 walks in the first two innings.

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Pitchers night for the Jays system:

Miguel Castro, 5 IP. 4H 1R (unearned), 1 BB 6 K. (76 pitches, 46 strikes). Castro should have gotten the W, but Jeff Francis (!) gave up a three spot for the blown save. BUF won in spite of Francis.

Shane Dawson 6.2 IP, 1 R, 1BB, 6K (anthony Alford 2-3 with two walks, DJ Davis 1-2 with 3 BB and 0K, Richard Urena with another homer, #6 on the season, 3-5 with three RBIs. Dan Jansen with a HR, his fourth)

Matt Boyd - 7IP., 3H, 1R, 1BB, 8K.

[Nights King]

Alford with another Alford-y game, 2-3, both singles with 2 BB and 1 K. His crazy high BABIP is actually trending upwards the last few days.Its pretty clear that he's got crazy good pitch recognition skills, you can't put up a 20% walk rate while hitting for so little power without it. The K's are at a manageable level too, still too high but not at a seriously alarming level. But its also time for him to start going deep, the lack of homeruns is worrying.

Urena and Jansen went deep, Jansen is heating up and look out, he's on pace to put up a very impressive offensive season. He'll always be underrated being a low round draft pick but you can't ignore stats.

Urena is a an enigma like Schad said before, his peripherals are terrible, the K to BB ratio is beyond ugly and he's not hitting for extra bases apart from the homeruns but you can't deny 6 homeruns in a 155 plate appearances. And he's the 2nd youngest player in all of the MWL.

[Lateral Quicks]

So when does Matt Boyd get promoted? He's now pitched 50+ stellar innings in AA this year with a 1.05 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, and a 56:13 K:BB. It doesn't look like he has much left to learn in AA.

It's great to see Castro bounce back (finally). Also great to see him starting again.

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Rowdy Tellez didn't like surrendering the Lansing team HR lead to a shortstop, so he hit his sixth this afternoon.

[Schad]

Tellez's numbers across the board are fantastic against righties. K/BB is perfectly acceptable, especially with age taken into consideration, and he's showing no shortage of power. The Lindian production against lefties is a concern, but he's young and it's early.