Did O's target Cabrera, and if so, why did Jays not respond?

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I thought about this at the time. If you watch the replay of the injury, the catcher sets up way inside on that pitch. More so than I saw throughout the game. Getting him out of the game was pivotal. Reimold did nothing.

[BigLeagueChew]

I'm always skeptical when a RHP hits a lefty hitter or vice versa..It's tough to say if it was on purpose or not but I expected us to at least throw the ball high and inside to someone like Jones or Markakis.

[Michael Bradley]

Hutchison would have retaliated. He has done that at least twice in his MLB career that I can recall.

[rarefind]

Intentional or not, when what of your best hitters gets beaned like that you answer the bell. Machado barely got hit on a curveball that he would have got out the way of. Guess it is at the pitcher's discretion though to be honest. But would have been nice to actually see if such would ignite and inspire the team.

[s e n s i]

i'm all for aiming at markakis' ribcage or knee at some point during the game, but in a close one like that i don't think they wanted to lose by a run because they engaged in a beanball war. plus it's really tough to say for certain if the cabrera HBP was intentional. machado was hit by an avoidable looping curveball that simply missed. though i wouldn't be surprised if that scumbag team felt retribution was necessary -- heck i even think that's more likely, i wouldn't completely write off the idea that gonzalez tried to go up and in but simply missed as well

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i'm all for aiming at markakis' ribcage or knee at some point during the game, but in a close one like that i don't think they wanted to lose by a run because they engaged in a beanball war. plus it's really tough to say for certain if the cabrera HBP was intentional. machado was hit by an avoidable looping curveball that simply missed. though i wouldn't be surprised if that scumbag team felt retribution was necessary -- heck i even think that's more likely, i wouldn't completely write off the idea that gonzalez tried to go up and in but simply missed as well

I refer back to where the catcher positioned himself - further inside than on any pitch I saw all night.

[Larry Dallas]

I think you might be right about this. I was watching the game and they showed several replays of the hit and the location of the catcher. It looked deliberate. Wonderful. Yet another sign that this Jays team lacks identity and fortitude.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Because they're not the Arizona Diamondbacks.

[vaff87]

i'm all for aiming at markakis' ribcage or knee at some point during the game, but in a close one like that i don't think they wanted to lose by a run because they engaged in a beanball war. plus it's really tough to say for certain if the cabrera HBP was intentional. machado was hit by an avoidable looping curveball that simply missed. though i wouldn't be surprised if that scumbag team felt retribution was necessary -- heck i even think that's more likely, i wouldn't completely write off the idea that gonzalez tried to go up and in but simply missed as well

I feel like the O's throw at players fairly frequently. This is just based on my memory, not based on any statistics I looked up, but it seems like a lot of Jays injuries over the years by HBP have been at the hands of the Orioles.

[s e n s i]

I refer back to where the catcher positioned himself - further inside than on any pitch I saw all night.

i get that. joseph did set up uncomfortably inside, but what answer are you looking for?

the blue jays are bunch of pansies that let other teams walk all over them, that's why they didn't respond

either that or they figured we can't afford to give them a free baserunner in a close, pivotal game over a HBP they weren't 100% sure was intentional. it's one or the other right.

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I refer back to where the catcher positioned himself - further inside than on any pitch I saw all night.

i get that. joseph did set up uncomfortably inside, but what answer are you looking for?

the blue jays are bunch of pansies that let other teams walk all over them, that's why they didn't respond

either that or they figured we can't afford to give them a free baserunner in a close, pivotal game over a HBP they weren't 100% sure was intentional. it's one or the other right.

I think your second paragraph is the answer I fear.

[Schad]

I think your second paragraph is the answer I fear.

Of course you do.

And, as I say any time this silliness comes up: intentionally hitting batters is dumb. Intentionally hitting batters in important games is you-should-be-fired-tomorrow dumb. Just no.

[satyr9]

I think your second paragraph is the answer I fear.

Of course you do.

And, as I say any time this silliness comes up: intentionally hitting batters is dumb. Intentionally hitting batters in important games is you-should-be-fired-tomorrow dumb. Just no.

Why not just ask why Happ didn't come down off the mound and punch someone in the ribs? He'd have better control, he'd certainly convey the appropriate message with more force, and justice would be served.

Just in case anyone was wondering, the answer to that question is undeniably 100% that the Blue Jays are pansies. I don't know why I ever thought it was a good idea to spend my free time trying to watch flowers play Baseball, they're just not very good at it. Stick to photosynthesis you losers.

[Schad]

Just in case anyone was wondering, the answer to that question is undeniably 100% that the Blue Jays are pansies. I don't know why I ever thought it was a good idea to spend my free time trying to watch flowers play Baseball, they're just not very good at it. Stick to photosynthesis you losers.

Analytics Plant takes offense at the notion that photosynthesis and baseball cannot coexist.

[Black Watch]

Why not just ask why Happ didn't come down off the mound and punch someone in the ribs? He'd have better control, he'd certainly convey the appropriate message with more force, and justice would be served.

Just in case anyone was wondering, the answer to that question is undeniably 100% that the Blue Jays are pansies. I don't know why I ever thought it was a good idea to spend my free time trying to watch flowers play Baseball, they're just not very good at it. Stick to photosynthesis you losers.

This is almost sig-worthy!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

If we literally injure every other player in baseball, we will win the World Series. And then noone will call us pansies and Canada will be the coolest country in North America!!!

[chargerxthirty]

I watched the replay of that pitch from every angle 20 times each today when I was at my fathers house and we concluded that that it was intentional without a shadow of a doubt. It was a calculated move and I was very disappointed that the Jays didn't respond.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Hooo boy. I need to take a break from this forum for a bit. At least until this thread disappears.

[Santoki]

Hooo boy. I need to take a break from this forum for a bit. At least until this thread disappears.

You should probably take a break from all Jays-related media because this is the first thing they talked about on every program yesterday.

[WiggOuts]

is there video?