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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#101 » by Michael Bradley » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:26 pm

Centre Court wrote:If AA was creative he could have freed up more cash. Moving one of Reyes, Buehrle or Dickey would have given him some flexibility - even if he had to eat some of those contracts.


The Marlins, smartly, traded those players when they were at their cheapest. The moment Reyes and Buehrle's backloaded deals came into effect, they lost value. It would have been pointless to move them since they couldn't have been replaced internally and the value coming back would not have come close to the value that was given up for them when they were making $10M annually instead of $18-22M.

AA did not cut salary likely because the only salary that he could afford to move without downgrading the roster was untradeable (Romero, Izturis). I felt they could have survived with Gose at CF if they traded Rasmus for a middle infield upgrade but I'm not sure how likely that was.

Regardless, I just find it completely unrealistic for a GM who put so much emphasis on value to suddenly not see the value in cheap controllable talent (Alvarez, Escobar, TDA, etc). I don't blame him for doing it, but I'd imagine he wouldn't have done it if he knew he maxed out on payroll the moment those deals happened.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#102 » by Secueritae » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:43 pm

About time !!!
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#103 » by bballsparkin » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:37 pm

Nice win. Now 9 more in a row! Love having Janssen on the mound to close games. Is it a forgone conclusion he's gone? I imagine he's about to get paid big bucks.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#104 » by TOStateofMind » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:37 pm

They did it! They won!
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#105 » by C Court » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:38 pm

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Post#106 » by BigLeagueChew » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:39 pm

Nice win :)
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#107 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:42 pm

Colby's wRC+ on the season is now up to 101, which is virtually identical to his career wRC+ of 102. Don't think he's going to have much problem getting a good contract this offseason.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#108 » by dballislife » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:43 pm

When u see rasmus hit man makes u wonder why he isn't a better hitter...short compact powerful swing...just like lawrie each year seems like any moment they can break out but then don't

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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#109 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:47 pm

bballsparkin wrote:Nice win. Now 9 more in a row! Love having Janssen on the mound to close games. Is it a forgone conclusion he's gone? I imagine he's about to get paid big bucks.

Pretty much. Even if they did have the money to keep him, there are probably better ways to allocate such funds than on him.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#110 » by bballsparkin » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:55 pm

I agree, but still will suck losing him. He's one of the consistently dependable guys.
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Post#111 » by C Court » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:11 pm

bballsparkin wrote:I agree, but still will suck losing him. He's one of the consistently dependable guys.


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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#112 » by bballsparkin » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:20 am

^^As long as we keep EE and the young pitchers I'm cool with changes.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#113 » by Michael Bradley » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:03 am

Janssen's arm is held together with duct tape. It is probably best to let him go. The Jays have more pressing needs than a closer, even though Janssen has been very good (recent cold streak aside). Too bad the new CBA eliminated Type B picks.

If Alex stays on, then I'm guessing there will be one more attempt with the Bautista/Encarnacion/Reyes core. He's probably promoting pitchers quickly for depth purposes (Sanchez, Norris, Graveman, etc) as Morrow is likely gone and Happ is on the bubble. The only free agent I think they'll try to keep is Melky.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#114 » by Double Helix » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:43 am

dballislife wrote:When u see rasmus hit man makes u wonder why he isn't a better hitter...short compact powerful swing...just like lawrie each year seems like any moment they can break out but then don't

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That's how I feel. He has so many tools. Physically, he reminds a little of Shawn Green and at times, when he's zoned in, because he has plus tools, I wonder why he isn't better. I guess that's baseball though. All it takes is a couple big hitting weaknesses and pitchers are on them quickly and consistently. There's also been talk that he was forced into the sport by an overbearing father so maybe he's one of those guys blessed with everything he needs to be good and skilled but he just doesn't love the game enough. To throw out a hockey analogy think Alexandre Daigle. Awesome skater. Great hands. Skilled. Just didn't really love the game much and needed to constantly be pushed.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#115 » by Mehar » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:01 am

bballsparkin wrote:Nice win. Now 9 more in a row! Love having Janssen on the mound to close games. Is it a forgone conclusion he's gone? I imagine he's about to get paid big bucks.


From all the rumours i have read- Casey has a high preference to go to Southern California (sign with the Dodgers or Angels). I think it is highly unlikely the Jays would fork over the long-term money that is needed to keep him here. Maybe he also wants a change of scenery as well.
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Re: ST: Blue Jays @ Brewers - Aug 19-20 

Post#116 » by bballsparkin » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:52 pm

^^Yeah, that's the feeling I have. I'm curious to see how much he gets.

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