Jays' arbitration decisions and settlements

[Rhettmatic]

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[Jays4WS]

We didn't agree with Donaldson over 450k.

Good job Ownership.


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Yea, kind of dumb considering some of the big gaps out there - Moustakas, Arrieta, etc. Seems like an odd hill for management to die on.

[bluerap23]

Cecil gets 400K more than expected, Hutch gets 400K less.

[bluerap23]

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Nats gonna sign Revere for 8.376M just for kicks.

Seriously, I'd rather Shapiro was in on that arb case than Rizzo... seems odd.

Stoeren was expected to get 8.8 so I hope not.

[bluerap23]

The Nationals have struck a one-year deal with just-acquired outfielder Ben Revere for $6.25MM, Jon Heyman tweets. Revere had been projected by MLBTR to earn a $6.7MM salary next year.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ben-revere

[Raptors Realtor]

Very odd logic for an ownership/GM who gave Saunders a $250k raise... You gotta give Donaldson the extra $450k to make the best player on the team and MVP happy, especially when that salary isn't unreasonable for a player with that pedigree... What arbitrator isn't going to be in favour of honouring Donaldson's salary arb request? #stupidmovejays

[cram]

Stupid move on Donaldson.

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Unbelievable lol.

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[Santoki]

Take Delabar's $350K raise and give it to Donaldson. Come on FO.

[Randle McMurphy]

You guys realize they weren't actually haggling over 450K with Donaldson, right? Both parties would have changed their offers for the actual filing to give a better chance of winning.

[Randle McMurphy]

Yea, kind of dumb considering some of the big gaps out there - Moustakas, Arrieta, etc. Seems like an odd hill for management to die on.

A raise now leads to a bigger raise in the future. This would be about saving those multi millions down the road.

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Yea, kind of dumb considering some of the big gaps out there - Moustakas, Arrieta, etc. Seems like an odd hill for management to die on.

A raise now leads to a bigger raise in the future. This would be about saving those multi millions down the road.

You won;t have a multi-,million variance based on such a small gap now.

[Randle McMurphy]

Yea, kind of dumb considering some of the big gaps out there - Moustakas, Arrieta, etc. Seems like an odd hill for management to die on.

A raise now leads to a bigger raise in the future. This would be about saving those multi millions down the road.

You won;t have a multi-,million variance based on such a small gap now.

By 2018, his last year of arbitration, I believe it would be. In any case, the difference today adds up to considerably more down the road for him. Should the Jays just be giving him that money out of kindness?

[binjumper]

he's the mvp pay the man

[C Court]

You guys realize they weren't actually haggling over 450K with Donaldson, right? Both parties would have changed their offers for the actual filing to give a better chance of winning.

Yup. That's how I understand it works.

Donaldson's camp may have been talking say $12.5 million while the Jays were offering $10.5 million - a gap of $2 million (as an example).

Once the deadline hits, then both sides put their 'realistic' numbers on the table. In this case, they both filed numbers which are less than $500k apart. But neither side knew what the other side's number was until after the filing.

[Santoki]

You guys realize they weren't actually haggling over 450K with Donaldson, right? Both parties would have changed their offers for the actual filing to give a better chance of winning.

Yup. That's how I understand it works.

Donaldson's camp may have been talking say $12.5 million while the Jays were offering $10.5 million - a gap of $2 million (as an example).

Once the deadline hits, then both sides put their 'realistic' numbers on the table. In this case, they both filed numbers which are less than $500k apart. But neither side knew what the other side's number was until after the filing.

Once they know the filed number what stops them from avoiding the whole thing and just giving him the $450K?

And why would both sides put realistic numbers out in arb? Wouldn't it benefit both to have the negotiated numbers and let the arbritator decide what's fair.

[Randle McMurphy]

You guys realize they weren't actually haggling over 450K with Donaldson, right? Both parties would have changed their offers for the actual filing to give a better chance of winning.

Yup. That's how I understand it works.

Donaldson's camp may have been talking say $12.5 million while the Jays were offering $10.5 million - a gap of $2 million (as an example).

Once the deadline hits, then both sides put their 'realistic' numbers on the table. In this case, they both filed numbers which are less than $500k apart. But neither side knew what the other side's number was until after the filing.

Once they know the filed number what stops them from avoiding the whole thing and just giving him the $450K?

Nothing other than their own policy. But if you create an exception for him, it kind of defeats the entire purpose of it.

[Schad]

Also, both sides now have a pretty good idea of what Donaldson can expect coming off an MVP season, but without having locked in on a 2016 salary. Beneficial if there's any possibility of an extension, though I don't know that such is even remotely likely.