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ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10)

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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#121 » by dagger » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:51 pm

Ha, Pillar. Trade value going through the Rogers Centre roof.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#122 » by BigLeagueChew » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:03 pm

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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#123 » by pingpongrac » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:04 pm

What on earth?!
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#124 » by TOStateofMind » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:05 pm

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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#125 » by dagger » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:09 pm

Nice catch by Pillar. Seems like I've written that before.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#126 » by BigLeagueChew » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:14 pm

There's Travis.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#127 » by ldnk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:23 pm

Well this was certainly surprising. Not that I think we are complaining. Blue Jays for 2017 World Series!!!!
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#128 » by TOStateofMind » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:32 pm

Hey another win. Let's see if they can win 2 in a row finally lol.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#129 » by Throwback24 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:38 pm

Throwback24 wrote:I'm liking the Jays under 8. Storman complete game 1 runner


My apologies. I pictured a 2-1 game. Good complete game though
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#130 » by JaysRule15 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:51 pm

With a win tomorrow, we could get our first series win and our first win streak. Dan2087 deserves a statue right beside Ted Rogers if that happens.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#131 » by johanliebert » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:02 pm

the coaching staff has done a good job with pillar/zeke this season. Pillar looks like an entirely different hitter. gotta finish them off tomorrow.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#132 » by The_Hater » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:26 am

Travis, Pillar and Goins. Now we just need another 80 or so HR's from them this year in order to save the offense.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#133 » by Natural11 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:39 am

johanliebert wrote:Lot of people i know involved in baseball around the florida region all tell me the jays have one of the best hitting staffs in the majors. than i come on real gm and i read about all you arm chair coaches.


Their approach at the plate doesn't reflect this claim.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#134 » by Schad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:15 am

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johanliebert wrote:Lot of people i know involved in baseball around the florida region all tell me the jays have one of the best hitting staffs in the majors. than i come on real gm and i read about all you arm chair coaches.


Their approach at the plate doesn't reflect this claim.


Their approach at the plate mostly reflects their talent.

Here's the thing: if someone can tell me which of the following elements of our approach is the problem, let's fire the coaches:


We have seen the 5th-highest number of pitches seen per plate appearance in the majors.

Similarly, we have the 8th-lowest swing rate, and we're bang average in swing rate on pitches outside the strikezone.

When we swing at pitches in the zone, we make contact at a solid clip: 7th best in the majors. We're 9th-best overall in contact on swings.

Our swinging strike rate is 20th, so we don't generate an atypically high number of whiffs, even though it really seems that way.

Our biggest problem? We take an typically high number of pitches for called strikes. I can guarantee that no hitting coach is advising them to let strike three sail by.


So what we have is a team that works counts, before taking strike three. And that makes contact, but the ball doesn't go bloody anywhere when they do. What exactly is the approach we should be taking?
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#135 » by The_Hater » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:59 pm

Natural11 wrote:
johanliebert wrote:Lot of people i know involved in baseball around the florida region all tell me the jays have one of the best hitting staffs in the majors. than i come on real gm and i read about all you arm chair coaches.


Their approach at the plate doesn't reflect this claim.


Yup. Baseball fans far too often look at hot and cold streaks and think they're a reflection of something more permanent. There's no major sport where the players fluctuate in production more than MLB, that's why the best teams often can't even win 60% of their games.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#136 » by So_Fresh » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:07 pm

Coghlan is awful.. does he even have a hit??

can't we just start Barney at 3rd base?

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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#137 » by The_Hater » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:26 pm

What was with the ump giving Calhoun 1st base in the 3rd inning yesterday? Making up new baseball rules?
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#138 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:34 pm

The_Hater wrote:What was with the ump giving Calhoun 1st base in the 3rd inning yesterday? Making up new baseball rules?


Please, there is a rule for everything.

In this case, they called Stroman for deliberately quick pitching. This was a terrible call, but in this instance it means the pitch is a ball, which was ball 4.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#139 » by ldnk » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:39 pm

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The_Hater wrote:What was with the ump giving Calhoun 1st base in the 3rd inning yesterday? Making up new baseball rules?


Please, there is a rule for everything.

In this case, they called Stroman for deliberately quick pitching. This was a terrible call, but in this instance it means the pitch is a ball, which was ball 4.


As terrible as this call was, one that goes unnoticed is the at bat in the 8th inning where he granted time in the middle of Stroman's delivery. That's dangerous for a pitchers arm.
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Re: ST5: Blue Jays (3-12) vs. Angels (7-10) 

Post#140 » by The_Hater » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:45 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
The_Hater wrote:What was with the ump giving Calhoun 1st base in the 3rd inning yesterday? Making up new baseball rules?


Please, there is a rule for everything.

In this case, they called Stroman for deliberately quick pitching. This was a terrible call, but in this instance it means the pitch is a ball, which was ball 4.


The terrible interpretation of the rule aside, I umpired baseball for years and had no idea that a quick pitch could be called a ball. I would just call time if the batter wasn't in the box.

Of course in this case the batter was in the box and looked ready. Never seen that call in all my years watching MLB.
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