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IIRC, part of the reason Price was so highly regarded is because he was viewed as an easy to sign type of guy.

GYBE wrote:IIRC, part of the reason Price was so highly regarded is because he was viewed as an easy to sign type of guy.

0-2.

MLB draft is a absolute joke.

Well if he really does pan out they have a great future starting rotation. They still got Andrew Miller, Verlander, Nate Robertson and this guy. I'm forgetting a couple guys, I know but still, that's a great rotation to start with.

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:They still got Andrew Miller, Verlander, Nate Robertson and this guy. I'm forgetting a couple guys, I know but still, that's a great rotation to start with.

Jeremy Bonderman too. Of course, bigboy will have to check my answer.

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Jeremy Bonderman too. Of course, bigboy will have to check my answer.

1-3.

.333 average. I can make it coach!

GYBE wrote:IIRC, part of the reason Price was so highly regarded is because he was viewed as an easy to sign type of guy.

Not really. Price has been viewed as a premium talent for a couple of years. And it has nothing to do with his signability.

I wasn't trying to say he wasn't a premium talent, but that on top of that he seemed like a high character guy unlikely to hold out. But whatever.

GYBE wrote:I wasn't trying to say he wasn't a premium talent, but that on top of that he seemed like a high character guy unlikely to hold out. But whatever.

That's part of it. The other part is that he's 6'6, an excellent athlete and fielder, and is a power lefty with a great arsenal.

I see this signing biting the Tiggers in the ass. The kid is going to have to stick in the majors by the end of the 2011 season (if my math is correct). By signing him this late, they basically wasted a year of development time because he's only got three years left before he needs to stay on the 25 man roster. Not the 40 man roster, like if he would sign a minor league deal. Also, if he sticks in the big leagues at age 21, he's still got 4 more years before he passes through the injury nexus. I just really don't like giving ML contracts to amateurs period, let alone 18 year old kids. Thankfully Hansen is starting to pull his stuff together otherwise that move may have backfired on the Red Sox as well. mahalo
~Chach~

Chach you really think that? I mean Kershaw has already gotten to AA, and will be in the bigs by the end of next year. And Porcello is better than Kershaw, well at least the scouting reports say so. Have to wait to see some numbers still.

Good move by the Tigers.

Steep price to pay, but Porcello is for real.

Porcello
Miller
Bonderman
Verlander

That is ridiculous.

bigboy1234 wrote:Chach you really think that? I mean Kershaw has already gotten to AA, and will be in the bigs by the end of next year. And Porcello is better than Kershaw, well at least the scouting reports say so. Have to wait to see some numbers still.

And Craig Hansen was a college relief pitcher who made it to the majors a month after signing and he has struggled until recently. And he basically started at AA. Porcello is probably going to get a start or two before the season is over (maybe), some time in Instructional League, and then could start the season either in XST or if the Tiggers are aggressive he could start in Low A. If Hansen, someone the D-Backs thought about taking #1 overall, has struggled, then it certainly could happen to Porcello. Things are in line for him to make it to the big leagues early and I agree he is better then Kershaw but I just don't like the idea of ML contracts to drafted kids because so many things can go wrong. Unless the kid does not spend an inning in the minors and starts in the major leagues, I don't want him to get a ML deal. Too many things can go wrong to slow development, especially for an 18 year old. For every Josh Beckett there is a Wily Mo Pena who the Yankees foolishly gave a ML deal to at 16. mahalo
~Chach~

Porcello has a lot to prove before I put him in Kershaw's class. Mid 90s lefties with the ability to be overpowering don't grow on trees. And Josh Beckett, for as good as he's been this year, was really quite an underachiever before this season, and he was awful last year.
He got a lot of hype (and rightfully so) for his performance in the 2003 World Series, but didn't take the next step everyone expected after that.

I'd hardly call Beckett an underachiever besides last year. Silly injuries like blisters kept him from pitching more and honestly, it might have been a blessing in disguise because he would have racked up A LOT of innings as a young pitcher if not for those injuries. He seems to have passed through the injury nexus pretty cleanly and when he was healthy, he was extremely effective.

Also, I'm curious as to how this affects his arbitration clock. Say he starts his fourth year of the deal out with the ml club. The Tigers use his three options the previous three years and then he is a rookie that fourth year. Does his time on the 40 man roster affect his service time? Is he eligible for arbitration after his rookie year because he will have been on the 40 man roster for the three years of service time needed to be eligible. I think that it does not count as service time so he's simply get the minimum raises over his $1 million salary until he is eligible for arbitration but I will find out. mahalo
~Chach~

Porcello will be in the majors for good by opening day 2010. Easy.

that's a lot of money for a kid who's only shown that he can dominate high school hitters...

mets87 wrote:that's a lot of money for a kid who's only shown that he can dominate high school hitters...

Bill Pulsipher is running through your head isnt he? It's ok, Brien Taylor is running through mine.

yeah, exactly. these guys have proven next to nothing...7.3 mil? jesus.