2012 NFL Week TWO Game Thread

[TSE]

Better weapons? They have a top 5 RB and a top 10 WR and QB on their team (although I could see Cutler not being that high). But yeah, their defense and offensive line are horrible.

Cutler is not top 10, and he isn't fresh and young and he will be a problem. They pay him a lot of money and they aren't going to win a SB any time soon. They should rebuild and trade him now while they can.

Brandon Marshall if that's the one you are referring to I think is overrated, as is Forte. Both are good, but not as good as people think, and beyond them they have really weak RB/WR/TE. That's only 3 good weapons who to me are all flawed weapons for one reason or another to boot such that they aren't superstars by any means. I want to see them with 10 good weapons that I approve of. And they are coming up way short and I think they are a failure of a team.

[mnWI]

That was the type of defense the Packers played a couple years ago during the Super Bowl run. Changes in the secondary made a huge difference. M.D. Jennings to Jerron McMillian and Jarrett Bush to Sam Shields. Hopefully that plants Jarrett Bush's ass to the bench for good on defense.

Casey Hayward in the nickle package played really well too. Typically McCarthy/Capers make rookies earn it before starting them or throwing them onto the field, but I think they realized they needed to get the talent on the field now or risk having a repeat performance of last year defensively. McMillian was such a huge upgrade from Jennings last night, and you had Hayward and Worthy making some big plays too. Not to mention Perry and Moses rotating in. Lots of youth there which will cause growing pains, but hopefully produces a better result by the end of the season.

[LAKESHOW]

Clay Matthews throwing his hat into the Defensive MVP ring. Hell he just vaulted to the top with a bullet. Awesome performance even though J'Marcus Webb is embarrassing at tackle. Dog of a game.

totally agree. prime time billing with everyone watching. Just relentless around the corner. Folks who think this stuff is easy, need to watch last nights tape. It is a nightmare staring at this guy comin around the corner, relentlessly, each and every play. The tackle webb though is a scrub. But Defensive MVP? Im gonna have to go with someone from that 49ers defense, maybe Willis. As I dont think greenbays overall defense is going to help Matthews case.

[RIPskaterdude]

Justin Smith is the DMVP for me, because without him, that 49ers defense would go from amazing to above average. He's consistently double teamed and never really gets the media love he deserves.

[Icness]

Revis out vs. Pittsburgh.

Freeney out for IND.

[Susan]

The Bears defensive line is far from terrible. Peppers is Peppers and Henry Melton leads DTs in tackles since the start of 2011.

[TSE]

The Bears defensive line is far from terrible. Peppers is Peppers and Henry Melton leads DTs in tackles since the start of 2011.

Combined tackles or individual? Cause I just looked up 2 players that seemingly have more. Also if he has the most, he also has ZERO FF's since 2011, so the guy making most of the tackles is also doing the worst at creating Turnovers. I'm skeptical about the value of this player since I don't follow him and the stats suggest he might be a liability, since he has 0 FFs, 0 PDs, and 0 INTs. Those are below what I would like to see from a DL player since they are the worst possible numbers!

[LAKESHOW]

Peppers is the real deal. I just dont know about the age and injury thing. But in his prime, scary good. right now? he shows flashes, but i dont follow them enough to know if its brought with consistency.

[Icness]

The Bears defensive line is far from terrible. Peppers is Peppers and Henry Melton leads DTs in tackles since the start of 2011.

Uhh, no. Melton had 24 tackles last year. Athyba Rubin had 86, Domata Peko had 68. In fact Cleveland had three DTs with more tackles than Melton last year: Rubin, Phil Taylor with 59 and Brian Schaefring had 29. The Lions also had three with more: Suh, Williams, and Hill. Melton isn't even in the top 70 in tackles by a DT. Don't know where you got that info but it's not even close to accurate.

[Simba248]

I'm expecting a high scoring game between the Panthers and Saints. Hopefully we get the running game, Rivera already admitted that they abandoned it way to quick last week and wanted to make it a focal point this week.

[LAKESHOW]

Yeah, carolina needs to power up the running game. I think Cam has been figured out.

[Susan]

The Bears defensive line is far from terrible. Peppers is Peppers and Henry Melton leads DTs in tackles since the start of 2011.

Uhh, no. Melton had 24 tackles last year. Athyba Rubin had 86, Domata Peko had 68. In fact Cleveland had three DTs with more tackles than Melton last year: Rubin, Phil Taylor with 59 and Brian Schaefring had 29. The Lions also had three with more: Suh, Williams, and Hill. Melton isn't even in the top 70 in tackles by a DT. Don't know where you got that info but it's not even close to accurate.

My bad, meant sacks. He's at 10 since the start of last season. I was posting right before taking a nap so my brain wasn't all there.

[Celtics_Champs]

Game day babay!

[C-izMe]

Eagles looking pretty sharp right now *cross fingers*.

[C-izMe]

That throw/catch to Avant was perfect.