cl2117 wrote:truth18 wrote:cl2117 wrote:It's gotta be the former. I'm pretty disappointed in myself to be honest.
I blame the lack of discussion with regards to the NFL on realgm. Looking for any excuse to talk football, even if it's with a troll. It's great here for basketball, but I need to find somewhere of the same quality for football. If anybody knows of any, let me know.
Why can I not PM you? Button shows up for Geoff...
Good looking out, place looks legit. Thanks.El Turco wrote:cl2117 wrote:LAKESHOW so what's your take on the Jerry Rice stickum situation?
Does Montana deserve to be in the conversation of greatest ever since he had to have known about Rice's use of stickum?
montana won without rice. twice.
Brady won without Rice, four times.
Seriously though, the point I was trying to make is that if you want to exclude Brady from because he knew about the footballs, then you have to exclude Montana because he knew about Rice using stickum. It doesn't matter if he won without Rice or not, if you are going to say a guy can't be in the conversation because he was involved in cheating then stick to it and don't make exceptions or excuses.
That's stupid though. Neither should be excluded anyway because this discussion should be based around accomplishments and skill and both have more than enough to be considered "greatest ever".
he hasnt won without belicheat though. fair or not, thems are the breaks when you are playing for an organization that likes to stretch the rule book so often.
also i dont think there is any evidence montana was involved in rice's cheating, not necessarily the same thing.