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Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30

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Post#221 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:09 pm by Scout Taron

DetroitPistons wrote:
Scout Taron wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
He's only avg 0.8 less below his career avg.

Lol.

Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg
2010-11 20 DET NBA 80 2222 18.0 .575 .551 13.0 20.4 16.5 7.5 2.3 1.6 11.0 15.4 120 109
2011-12 21 DET NBA 66 2082 22.0 .563 .521 13.3 23.6 18.3 14.0 2.1 1.7 15.2 23.6 110 102
2012-13 22 DET NBA 10 343 19.3 .514 .472 8.3 24.1 16.0 18.5 2.4 2.5 14.9 24.8 100 103

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No surprise you come in here to nitpick Monroe's 20/13/3 game. :roll:

No. He had a great game.

Just something I've noticed over the season. It's just weird. It was a huge part of his game that has mostly disappeared.
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Post#222 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:10 pm by ComboGuardCity

And its only been 11 games...and the team shot 55% today.
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Post#223 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:11 pm by Scout Taron

ComboGuardCity wrote:And its only been 11 games...and the team shot 55% today.

Yeah, but he's not even really going for them. And his ORB% stat isn't punished for the team making a lot of shots.

Just unusual is all.
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Post#224 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:12 pm by DetroitPistons

Also, we shot 54% and it felt like everything was going in. When that happens it's tough to get offensive rebounds. Put Drummond with him and we will be one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the league.
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Post#225 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:13 pm by Blkbrd671

Just read the celtics board, apparently we didn't play well, Celtics just played down to us. In other words we made the celtics play our game and couldn't get into theirs. They became a jump shooting team, and AD1 had a lot to do with it.

Personally i liked the win, i didn't like the lineups but they seemed to work a little better. its always encouraging when we can get a lead , hold it or increase it. Great defense and we were knocking down shots


Before i used to dread watching Daye play, not knowing if he was going to be great or stink. I am starting to enjoy see daye enter the game, as it means we've already won.
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Post#226 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:14 pm by mercury

When the shots fall it changes everything...
Positives = JMax's midrange game, Singler's diversity, Tay looking consistent, Dre making an impact, G.M. all around game, Knight's D on Rondo, Rotating the ball and finding the open man, keeping the big 3 in check.
Negatives= Knight out of control, T.O's
Due to lack of defense we rest our case
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Post#227 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:16 pm by MrBigShot

Scout Taron wrote:
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Scout Taron wrote:Why doesn't Moose get offensive boards anymore?


He's only avg 0.8 less below his career avg.

Lol.

Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg
2010-11 20 DET NBA 80 2222 18.0 .575 .551 13.0 20.4 16.5 7.5 2.3 1.6 11.0 15.4 120 109
2011-12 21 DET NBA 66 2082 22.0 .563 .521 13.3 23.6 18.3 14.0 2.1 1.7 15.2 23.6 110 102
2012-13 22 DET NBA 10 343 19.3 .514 .472 8.3 24.1 16.0 18.5 2.4 2.5 14.9 24.8 100 103

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i think that tends to happen when guys go from purely hustle players who don't get plays called for them, to central pieces of an offense. Same thing happened to David Lee.
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Post#228 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:20 pm by Goldtop

Scout Taron wrote:
Goldtop wrote:
Scout Taron wrote:Why doesn't Moose get offensive boards anymore?


He's only avg 0.8 less below his career avg.

Lol.

Season Age Tm Lg G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg
2010-11 20 DET NBA 80 2222 18.0 .575 .551 13.0 20.4 16.5 7.5 2.3 1.6 11.0 15.4 120 109
2011-12 21 DET NBA 66 2082 22.0 .563 .521 13.3 23.6 18.3 14.0 2.1 1.7 15.2 23.6 110 102
2012-13 22 DET NBA 10 343 19.3 .514 .472 8.3 24.1 16.0 18.5 2.4 2.5 14.9 24.8 100 103

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'10: 3.1 ORB
'11: 3.6 ORB
'12: 2.5 ORB
CR: 3.3 ORB

0.8 difference like I said.
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Post#229 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:27 pm by Rekindled

Blkbrd671 wrote:Before i used to dread watching Daye play, not knowing if he was going to be great or stink. I am starting to enjoy see daye enter the game, as it means we've already won.


Or lost.
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Post#230 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:39 pm by OneBadMutha

If the Pistons could subtract Bynum and Jerebko from the rotation, they'd be a better team. They're close to having a decent rotation now that Maggette is back and Stuckey has volunteered to lead the bench. If they could role with that 8 man rotation, I wouldn't be surprised by above .500 play the rest of the way.
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Post#231 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:52 pm by Rekindled

detroitKG wrote:My God what is Franks love affair with Will Bynum? BK could have 10 TO's for all I care I still wouldnt bring that bum in...


He might have a soft spot for undersized guys who give all they got to overcome their size considering he himself is like 5'7 or 5'8. Just like how Joe D has a soft spot for players with a "southern work ethic" like his own, apparently.
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Post#232 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:55 pm by Rekindled

Goldtop wrote:With the way Maxiell is playing, I'm starting to worry Joe's going to give him a new nickname this summer - "Max Deal" Maxiell.


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Post#233 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:07 pm by Piston Pete

Never thought of it that way......having all these expirings could be the worst thing to happen to us in a long time:

1) Dumars uses the cap space to overspend on guys that make us worse (CV and BG part II)

or

2) Dumars sees this as a great opportunity to extend Maxiell, Maggette, and Bynum for 4 years each!!
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Post#234 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:09 pm by DetroitPistons

Another problem I have with the rotations is the overall minutes. Frank always seems to wait 2 or 3 minutes too long to bring the starters back in. Moose had an ultra efficient 20/13/3 but yet he only got 31min. Prince led in minutes with 33. Knight/Monroe/Prince should all be around 36-38min per game. Oh and Drummond too :wink:
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Post#235 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:11 pm by DetroitPistons

Piston Pete wrote:Never thought of it that way......having all these expirings could be the worst thing to happen to us in a long time:

1) Dumars uses the cap space to overspend on guys that make us worse (CV and BG part II)

or

2) Dumars sees this as a great opportunity to extend Maxiell, Maggette, and Bynum for 4 years each!!


Yeah this will be a big summer. Dumars should only sign a young starting wing if he can and a good 6th or 7th man. Other than that he should save the money to resign Monroe, Knight, and Drummond. He doesn't need to swing for the fences this summer.
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Post#236 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:12 pm by MrBigShot

Piston Pete wrote:Never thought of it that way......having all these expirings could be the worst thing to happen to us in a long time:

1) Dumars uses the cap space to overspend on guys that make us worse (CV and BG part II)

or

2) Dumars sees this as a great opportunity to extend Maxiell, Maggette, and Bynum for 4 years each!!


I won't be surprised when Dumars extends Max. He is by no means an NBA level starter, but he has played relatively well. Maggete is a blackhole, and Bynum is just...ok. I think we can get a better backup though.
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Post#237 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:14 am by Jodi

Good game Pistons...I knew we would win tonight...
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Post#238 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:19 am by Blkbrd671

Honestly depending on the development of Krav. Max more than likely will be extended. i don't think most of us would have a problem with it if its a good contract like tays and Rodney's. I don't wouldn't mind max as a PF off the bench
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Post#239 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:37 am by Goldtop

Blkbrd671 wrote:Honestly depending on the development of Krav. Max more than likely will be extended. i don't think most of us would have a problem with it if its a good contract like tays and Rodney's. I don't wouldn't mind max as a PF off the bench


The problem I have with Maxiell is why wasn't he playing like this a few years ago? Its obvious he's only trying this hard because its a contracts year. He's Chris Wilcox pt 2 imo. I wouldn't resign him mainly because I don't want to give Frank any chance to give Drummonds min to him, but also I think he will go back to lazy Maxiell once he gets his new contract. I'd prefer to trade him this year before Joe even can consider resigning him, and maybe get a draft pick out of it. The way he's playing, I could see an desparate contender like BOS or SA giving up a late 1st for him to add a big to their bench for one more run.

Next year I want to see Drummond starting and Kravtsov backing him up, wand maybe pick up a new backup PF in FA on a short term deal.
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Post#240 Re: Game 11: Celtics @ Pistons, 7:30
Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:17 am by Blkbrd671

Goldtop wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:Honestly depending on the development of Krav. Max more than likely will be extended. i don't think most of us would have a problem with it if its a good contract like tays and Rodney's. I don't wouldn't mind max as a PF off the bench


The problem I have with Maxiell is why wasn't he playing like this a few years ago? Its obvious he's only trying this hard because its a contracts year. He's Chris Wilcox pt 2 imo. I wouldn't resign him mainly because I don't want to give Frank any chance to give Drummonds min to him, but also I think he will go back to lazy Maxiell once he gets his new contract. I'd prefer to trade him this year before Joe even can consider resigning him, and maybe get a draft pick out of it. The way he's playing, I could see an desparate contender like BOS or SA giving up a late 1st for him to add a big to their bench for one more run.

Next year I want to see Drummond starting and Kravtsov backing him up, wand maybe pick up a new backup PF in FA on a short term deal.


Believe or not, Max has quite a bit of value because of his contract, the amount to resign him probably won't be absurd and production wise he produces. i would rather have Krav backing him up however it doesn't seem Krav is close to ready.

I really don't fault max for any other year besides the one year after his contract, our coaching situation was so horrid and its tough to go out there and sacrifice your body and energy for 2 POS coaches and crappy teams. Max also played well last year which many ppl forget. We could pick up a FA PF to back up Moose, but i think bang for buck wise, we'll get more out of max.
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