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Post#841 » by Clarity » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:08 am

MrBigShot wrote:Love Cuban celebrating on the floor with his players like that, he's the best owner in sports imo.


same thing I said when he hit it.
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Post#842 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:17 pm

Clarity wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:Love Cuban celebrating on the floor with his players like that, he's the best owner in sports imo.


same thing I said when he hit it.

He's crazy as f**k and I love him! :lol:
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Post#843 » by hoophabit » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:43 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:
Clarity wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:Love Cuban celebrating on the floor with his players like that, he's the best owner in sports imo.


same thing I said when he hit it.

He's crazy as f**k and I love him! :lol:


I'm sure some of the old school owners find him a little embarrassing, but as a fan you have to love him. He's an owner who's also clearly a fan and that's easy to like.
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Post#844 » by wallace72 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:59 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:Vicente el Cartero made an amazing 3pt game winning shot


Get em over here we need 3 point scoring!!
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Post#845 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:13 pm

F**K STERLING, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR RACISTS IN THIS WORLD
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Post#846 » by E-Z » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:56 pm

DBC10 wrote:Let me just say in behalf of this forum, screw yourself Sterling.

The incredible thing is, this isn't even the first time either. He's up there as one of the worst owners right now, I'd consider him and Dolan as interchangeable.


Dolan may be many things, but it would be an insult to equate that man to Sterling.
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Post#847 » by DBC10 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:43 pm

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DBC10 wrote:Let me just say in behalf of this forum, screw yourself Sterling.

The incredible thing is, this isn't even the first time either. He's up there as one of the worst owners right now, I'd consider him and Dolan as interchangeable.


Dolan may be many things, but it would be an insult to equate that man to Sterling.

Both are repugnant in their own ways tbh. Dolan and Thomas had that sexual harassment suit that was an utter embarrassment at the time. Not equating to the rampant racism in any way, but they're both equally dumb and should not be owners is what I was getting at.
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Post#848 » by Clarity » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:42 am

Portland already has the best PF in the game but they might mess around & have the best PG in the game too in a few years.

That kid Lillard is something.
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Post#849 » by pistontr » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:33 am

we could have ariza if we trade him for monroe :(
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Post#850 » by paQo the BAWSER » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:42 am

pistontr wrote:we could have ariza if we trade him for monroe :(

He's a FA, we can't trade for him, we can let Monroe go for nothing and offer a contract to Ariza, but that's not too smart. I think is the same as a double S&T.

I think Monroe and Smith for Nene, Porter and Webster could be a great deal for both teams. Any problem with keep Monroe here, but I always have thought that if a player wants to leave, is stupid let him go for nothing, but it's stupid too keep that player upset here.
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Post#851 » by hoophabit » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:07 pm

What is the origin of references to Monroe wanting to leave? I understand he indicated that he didn't think the team had much chemistry last season, but I haven't seen anything that indicates he's stated a desire to leave. Yes, he is testing the market in RFA, and I don't blame him for wanting to get the best possible deal. Perhaps he does want to leave as he might see himself as solely a center and as long as Drummond is here he's likely to get only the backup minutes. Just wondering if this is speculative or if something substantive exists I haven't heard about.
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Post#852 » by Q00 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:48 pm

hoophabit wrote:What is the origin of references to Monroe wanting to leave? I understand he indicated that he didn't think the team had much chemistry last season, but I haven't seen anything that indicates he's stated a desire to leave. Yes, he is testing the market in RFA, and I don't blame him for wanting to get the best possible deal. Perhaps he does want to leave as he might see himself as solely a center and as long as Drummond is here he's likely to get only the backup minutes. Just wondering if this is speculative or if something substantive exists I haven't heard about.


There were reports a few months ago about the Wizards planning to go hard after him this summer, and then he was spotted with his agent at the Wizards playoff game the other night.
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Post#853 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:50 pm

Monroe is worth (3) Ariza's. Players like Ariza are a dime a dozen. This is why he bounces from team to team like a rubber ball.
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Post#854 » by nuposse04 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:
pistontr wrote:we could have ariza if we trade him for monroe :(

He's a FA, we can't trade for him, we can let Monroe go for nothing and offer a contract to Ariza, but that's not too smart. I think is the same as a double S&T.

I think Monroe and Smith for Nene, Porter and Webster could be a great deal for both teams. Any problem with keep Monroe here, but I always have thought that if a player wants to leave, is stupid let him go for nothing, but it's stupid too keep that player upset here.


Wiz will never do that. Smith is awful and Monroe isn't a juggernaut. Nene is overpaid because of his injuries but he's a damn good player for about 3/4ths of the season. We aren't going to simply dump him in order to take long term salary on one way players. Never mind the fact Webster is on a reasonable contract and aren't giving up Porter to help bring in Smith. That is a non starter, just FYI. We're better off looking elsewhere.
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Post#855 » by tmorgan » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:55 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Wiz will never do that. Smith is awful and Monroe isn't a juggernaut. Nene is overpaid because of his injuries but he's a damn good player for about 3/4ths of the season. We aren't going to simply dump him in order to take long term salary on one way players. Never mind the fact Webster is on a reasonable contract and aren't giving up Porter to help bring in Smith. That is a non starter, just FYI. We're better off looking elsewhere.


Of course not. People are dreaming here.

Smith isn't going to return anything of value -- just getting him off the books without having to include an asset would be just fine.

Monroe is worth more than Nene alone or Porter alone or Webster alone, but obviously not all three.

Nene's a poor fit on the PIstons, and not at an age where he'd want to work through another rebuilding. Porter isn't ready but still has some prospect shine, and Ariza would be a good fit here. I'd gladly take just the latter two for Monroe.
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Post#856 » by nuposse04 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:05 pm

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nuposse04 wrote:Wiz will never do that. Smith is awful and Monroe isn't a juggernaut. Nene is overpaid because of his injuries but he's a damn good player for about 3/4ths of the season. We aren't going to simply dump him in order to take long term salary on one way players. Never mind the fact Webster is on a reasonable contract and aren't giving up Porter to help bring in Smith. That is a non starter, just FYI. We're better off looking elsewhere.


Of course not. People are dreaming here.

Smith isn't going to return anything of value -- just getting him off the books without having to include an asset would be just fine.

Monroe is worth more than Nene alone or Porter alone or Webster alone, but obviously not all three.

Nene's a poor fit on the PIstons, and not at an age where he'd want to work through another rebuilding. Porter isn't ready but still has some prospect shine, and Ariza would be a good fit here. I'd gladly take just the latter two for Monroe.


I was a big Monroe fan leading up to his drafting, and I been waiting on him to actually become a star, I think he is a solid starting quality big but I don't think he has much value as he SHOULD. I think DET could have maximized his value by surrounding him with better floor spacing yet they haven't :/ I think we could make him work in WAS but I don't want to give up more then Nene+Porter in order to do so. I will say one thing about Nene, he is awesome defender, he will teach Drummond a lot of what he lacks fundamentally.

Truthfully I'd rather the wiz get a stretch 4 with MLE and resign Gortat to a 4 year deal. Det should retain Monroe and see how next season turns out close to the trade deadline. Not quite sure what you guys will do with Smith. He has BAD negative value IMO.
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Post#857 » by hoophabit » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:07 pm

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hoophabit wrote:What is the origin of references to Monroe wanting to leave? I understand he indicated that he didn't think the team had much chemistry last season, but I haven't seen anything that indicates he's stated a desire to leave. Yes, he is testing the market in RFA, and I don't blame him for wanting to get the best possible deal. Perhaps he does want to leave as he might see himself as solely a center and as long as Drummond is here he's likely to get only the backup minutes. Just wondering if this is speculative or if something substantive exists I haven't heard about.


There were reports a few months ago about the Wizards planning to go hard after him this summer, and then he was spotted with his agent at the Wizards playoff game the other night.


Thanks, although to me this is a "so what" event. He's a RFA and he needs suitors if he's to get his best deal. This is not the same thing as saying he wants out. Guy wants to get paid and I can't blame him for that. People around here are really undervaluing Monroe in my opinion. Get the spacing issue resolved and Monroe will look a lot better when teams can't pack it in. Further, it really does look like his jumper is progressing. Pistons would be wise to keep him. The team is not at the point where they have to lose him because of salary. There is time to work this out.
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Post#858 » by Q00 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:46 pm

hoophabit wrote:
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hoophabit wrote:What is the origin of references to Monroe wanting to leave? I understand he indicated that he didn't think the team had much chemistry last season, but I haven't seen anything that indicates he's stated a desire to leave. Yes, he is testing the market in RFA, and I don't blame him for wanting to get the best possible deal. Perhaps he does want to leave as he might see himself as solely a center and as long as Drummond is here he's likely to get only the backup minutes. Just wondering if this is speculative or if something substantive exists I haven't heard about.


There were reports a few months ago about the Wizards planning to go hard after him this summer, and then he was spotted with his agent at the Wizards playoff game the other night.


Thanks, although to me this is a "so what" event. He's a RFA and he needs suitors if he's to get his best deal. This is not the same thing as saying he wants out. Guy wants to get paid and I can't blame him for that. People around here are really undervaluing Monroe in my opinion. Get the spacing issue resolved and Monroe will look a lot better when teams can't pack it in. Further, it really does look like his jumper is progressing. Pistons would be wise to keep him. The team is not at the point where they have to lose him because of salary. There is time to work this out.


Players don't usually attend games of other teams with their agent for no reason. It likely means he has interest in playing there and they went to check things out.

Monroe has put up the same numbers 3 years straight now. His offense and rebounding pretty much is what it is no matter who is around him. He's a 15/9 guy. Its his defense that's the problem.
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Re: Around the League 

Post#859 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:26 pm

Trade idea:

Monroe/Jennings

for

Wall/Nene

Thus, each team gets a piece of Garbage to go with the prize.
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Post#860 » by DETermination » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:00 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Trade idea:

Monroe/Jennings

for

Wall/Nene

Thus, each team gets a piece of Garbage to go with the prize.

I would accept that trade in a heartbeat but John wall is about as untradeable as Andre Drummond.
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