Worst case scenario (No one wants your garbage trades)
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Worst case scenario (No one wants your garbage trades)
Assume nobody will trade with us this summer, and Jerebko takes his option. You MUST move forward with:
Jennings / Bynum
KCP / Singler
Jerebko / Datome
Smith
Drummond
You have options on Billups, Harrellson, Mitchell and Siva (I think), and have to decide what to do with Monroe.
Where do you go from here?
Jennings / Bynum
KCP / Singler
Jerebko / Datome
Smith
Drummond
You have options on Billups, Harrellson, Mitchell and Siva (I think), and have to decide what to do with Monroe.
Where do you go from here?
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Back to the lottery for the next couple years because that team's ceiling is where we are now.
Then wait out Josh/Jennings expiring & hope Drummond doesnt demand a trade for stunting his growth like this.
Then wait out Josh/Jennings expiring & hope Drummond doesnt demand a trade for stunting his growth like this.
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My plan is this, and it may look terrible, but it's what I'd try.
1. Sign Thabo Sefolosha
2. Match whatever Monroe is able to get
3. Offer Billups a front office job
4. Pick up options on Mitchell and Siva
5. Let Harrellson walk
6. Draft Rodney Hood at 8 (unless we lose the pick to CHA)
7. Draft Jusuf Nurkic or Clint Capela at 38
Do your best to compete with
Jennings / Bynum / Siva
Sefolosha / KCP / Singler
Smith / Hood / Jerebko / Datome
Monroe / Mitchell
Drummond / 2nd rounder
New coach will start Smith, but in reality he will play majority of his minutes at the 4 in a 3 man rotation at the 2 big spots with Mitchell and the 2nd round pick only seeing garbage time.
Singler and Jerebko get a lot of minutes at the 3, but hopefully Hood is NBA ready and starts to take over those minutes.
1. Sign Thabo Sefolosha
2. Match whatever Monroe is able to get
3. Offer Billups a front office job
4. Pick up options on Mitchell and Siva
5. Let Harrellson walk
6. Draft Rodney Hood at 8 (unless we lose the pick to CHA)
7. Draft Jusuf Nurkic or Clint Capela at 38
Do your best to compete with
Jennings / Bynum / Siva
Sefolosha / KCP / Singler
Smith / Hood / Jerebko / Datome
Monroe / Mitchell
Drummond / 2nd rounder
New coach will start Smith, but in reality he will play majority of his minutes at the 4 in a 3 man rotation at the 2 big spots with Mitchell and the 2nd round pick only seeing garbage time.
Singler and Jerebko get a lot of minutes at the 3, but hopefully Hood is NBA ready and starts to take over those minutes.
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Well, I'd decline Chauncey's option (he'll probably retire anyways), but pick up Mitchell's and Siva's.
The new projected salary cap is $63.2 million, so declining Chauncey's option gives us a total of $39,677,875 of committed salary, for $23,522,125 in cap space.
We renounce our free agents Charlie V and Rodney Stuckey.
I believe that we'll have $10 million cap hold for Monroe, which disappears if we let him walk or match a deal for him.
I plan on offering every penny of that cap space required to bring Lowry over. $13.5 for 4 years. If he signs that contract quickly, we can then match any offers for Monroe and go over the cap, because we have his Bird Rights. If Monroe signs an offer sheet we've got a couple of days (I can't remember how many exactly) before we have to either match the salary or let him walk. Lowry can QB our defense, space the floor and run the offense better than Jennings had, plus being demoted might force Jennings to actually improve his game.
Go into next season with either Smith or Monroe on the bench. If I win the lottery, I draft Wiggins to be our SF and thank God. If not, I go for a trade down and grab a couple of prospects, particularly wing players (Young, McDaniels, LaVine,Bogdanovic, Hood). Payne and Anderson are a pair of PFs I'd look hard at too. Let Smith's value increase before putting him on the trading block. See how Monroe and Dre look together. Hopefully we've landed a solid defensive head coach, so that we'll have an actual system to work with.
Lowry/Jennings/Bynum/Siva
KCP
Singler/Datome
Smith/Monroe/JJ
Drummond/Jorts
+draft picks (can't be sure of who until we actually get to the draft)
The new projected salary cap is $63.2 million, so declining Chauncey's option gives us a total of $39,677,875 of committed salary, for $23,522,125 in cap space.
We renounce our free agents Charlie V and Rodney Stuckey.
I believe that we'll have $10 million cap hold for Monroe, which disappears if we let him walk or match a deal for him.
I plan on offering every penny of that cap space required to bring Lowry over. $13.5 for 4 years. If he signs that contract quickly, we can then match any offers for Monroe and go over the cap, because we have his Bird Rights. If Monroe signs an offer sheet we've got a couple of days (I can't remember how many exactly) before we have to either match the salary or let him walk. Lowry can QB our defense, space the floor and run the offense better than Jennings had, plus being demoted might force Jennings to actually improve his game.
Go into next season with either Smith or Monroe on the bench. If I win the lottery, I draft Wiggins to be our SF and thank God. If not, I go for a trade down and grab a couple of prospects, particularly wing players (Young, McDaniels, LaVine,Bogdanovic, Hood). Payne and Anderson are a pair of PFs I'd look hard at too. Let Smith's value increase before putting him on the trading block. See how Monroe and Dre look together. Hopefully we've landed a solid defensive head coach, so that we'll have an actual system to work with.
Lowry/Jennings/Bynum/Siva
KCP
Singler/Datome
Smith/Monroe/JJ
Drummond/Jorts
+draft picks (can't be sure of who until we actually get to the draft)
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For this, no one will trade with us? As in we can't trade Monroe? :/
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Why would would "nobody" trade with the Pistons this summer?
That statement alone makes zero sense to me. Any contract in the NBA can be moved. Period. What you may expect in return may vary, but anyone can be moved.
Smith can be moved without attaching a first round pick with him. He isn't a washout like Ben Gordon was. Jennings' contract is relatively cap friendly. The notion that Detroit can't even make a trade is a little far fetched.
If this team comes back with the same team, a lot of the team's difference in success will depend on internal development from Drummond and Monroe (they aren't letting him walk), KCP and how influential our next coach is.
That statement alone makes zero sense to me. Any contract in the NBA can be moved. Period. What you may expect in return may vary, but anyone can be moved.
Smith can be moved without attaching a first round pick with him. He isn't a washout like Ben Gordon was. Jennings' contract is relatively cap friendly. The notion that Detroit can't even make a trade is a little far fetched.
If this team comes back with the same team, a lot of the team's difference in success will depend on internal development from Drummond and Monroe (they aren't letting him walk), KCP and how influential our next coach is.
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I'm not saying that nobody will trade with the Stons this summer. I'm saying IF nobody would trade with us, and you had to move forward with the contracts you have, how would you proceed?
(I'm sick of the offseason plans "I'd sign and trade Monroe for KD, and then I'd trade Jennings for CP3")
(I'm sick of the offseason plans "I'd sign and trade Monroe for KD, and then I'd trade Jennings for CP3")
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1) Resign Monroe
2) Assuming Smart is off the board - Draft Vonleh
3) Sign Gordon Hayward with our FA money
Lineup:
Hayward/Jennings/Siva/Bynum
Smith/KCP
Vonleh/Singler/Jerebko
Monroe/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrellson
If we are going to blow anyway we may as well become the first team to go with a lineup of 6'9" and up guys.
2) Assuming Smart is off the board - Draft Vonleh
3) Sign Gordon Hayward with our FA money
Lineup:
Hayward/Jennings/Siva/Bynum
Smith/KCP
Vonleh/Singler/Jerebko
Monroe/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrellson
If we are going to blow anyway we may as well become the first team to go with a lineup of 6'9" and up guys.
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Resign Moose, accept options on Siva/Harrelson/Mitchell, if one of Smart/Vonleh is available at 8 take them, if not then trade down and take Stauskas and Payne. Match Monroe's offer.
I'd also be open to going after Gordon Hayward, but I'd be surprised if the Jazz don't match anything reasonable.
I'd also be open to going after Gordon Hayward, but I'd be surprised if the Jazz don't match anything reasonable.
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Just played the ESPN draft lottery and the Pistons selected Jabari Parker with the second pick. Man I hope that happens. Test drive Siva, Mitchell, and Harrellson again. Send Billups to the front office, he's been done for like 4 years. Resign Moose and bring Josh Smith off the bench as a versatile spark plug 4. Make a play for Gordon Hayward. Convince Jerebko there's no way he gets time in Detroit.
Jennings
KCP
Drummond
Monroe
Parker
Smith
Hayward
Singler
Jennings
KCP
Drummond
Monroe
Parker
Smith
Hayward
Singler
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-Hire Hollins
-Match anything Monroe's offered. I'm guessing 4yrs/48-50mil
-If Smart isn't available trade the pick for proven talent
Pistons get: Green, Boston's future protected 1st rounder
Celtics get: Singler, Jerebko, Bynum, 8th pick, Pistons 2014 2nd rounder
-Sign Kyle O'quinn
-Sign Jordan Crawford
-Anthony Morrow
Jennings
KCP/Crawford/Morrow
Smith/Green
Monroe/Smith
Drummond/Monroe/O'quinn
-Match anything Monroe's offered. I'm guessing 4yrs/48-50mil
-If Smart isn't available trade the pick for proven talent
Pistons get: Green, Boston's future protected 1st rounder
Celtics get: Singler, Jerebko, Bynum, 8th pick, Pistons 2014 2nd rounder
-Sign Kyle O'quinn
-Sign Jordan Crawford
-Anthony Morrow
Jennings
KCP/Crawford/Morrow
Smith/Green
Monroe/Smith
Drummond/Monroe/O'quinn
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Neptune wrote:-Hire Hollins
-Match anything Monroe's offered. I'm guessing 4yrs/48-50mil
-If Smart isn't available trade the pick for proven talent
Pistons get: Green, Boston's future protected 1st rounder
Celtics get: Singler, Jerebko, Bynum, 8th pick, Pistons 2014 2nd rounder
-Sign Kyle O'quinn
-Sign Jordan Crawford
-Anthony Morrow
Jennings
KCP/Crawford/Morrow
Smith/Green
Monroe/Smith
Drummond/Monroe/O'quinn
He didn't want any of our garbage trades
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1) Sign the most hard nosed coach there is.
2) Bring Josh Smith off bench so the Pistons utilize a (3) man big rotation
3) Bench Jennings and start Bynum, Siva or whomever until Jennings learns to be a pass first PG who tries very hard on Defense or just keep him as offense off the bench.
4) Use the extra cap money to sign a Solid starting SG or SF.
2) Bring Josh Smith off bench so the Pistons utilize a (3) man big rotation
3) Bench Jennings and start Bynum, Siva or whomever until Jennings learns to be a pass first PG who tries very hard on Defense or just keep him as offense off the bench.
4) Use the extra cap money to sign a Solid starting SG or SF.
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ImHeisenberg wrote:Why would would "nobody" trade with the Pistons this summer?
That statement alone makes zero sense to me. Any contract in the NBA can be moved. Period. What you may expect in return may vary, but anyone can be moved.
Smith can be moved without attaching a first round pick with him. He isn't a washout like Ben Gordon was. Jennings' contract is relatively cap friendly. The notion that Detroit can't even make a trade is a little far fetched.
If this team comes back with the same team, a lot of the team's difference in success will depend on internal development from Drummond and Monroe (they aren't letting him walk), KCP and how influential our next coach is.
It's a hypothetical situation...
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Someone will trade with us. Josh Smith to the Knicks for Andrea Bargnani makes sense if they keep Melo. Josh Smith to the Celtics for Jeff Green and Joel Anthony makes sense if the Celtics want to suck up to Rondo.