ImageImageImage

Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO

Moderators: Snakebites, theBigLip, dVs33

epheisey
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,443
And1: 409
Joined: Jul 23, 2010
         

Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#1 » by epheisey » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:14 am

I think we all need to take a step back, look at last years team, look at this years team, and re-evaluate what we think this team is capable of.

There is reason to be disappointed in the start to this season. I understand that. But there is also reason to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Let's all take a chance to hit the reset button on our projections and expectations for this team this season, and try and create some positivity around this board. I get that things aren't looking so great, but it's no reason to flip a lid and nuke the whole roster. We're 1/10 of the way through the season, and if we keep this up, this is going to turn into an incredibly toxic place for Pistons fans.

I'm going with 33 wins right now. I think after the All-Star break, we'll really start to see the improvement. In usual lottery-pistons fashion, we'll close out the year on a decent stretch and fall in the lottery.

I think the Josh Smith/Greg Monroe duo at PF actually turns into a plus.

Drummond starts to put together a defensive game that teams must prepare for. He's already showing signs, but I'd bet by the half-way mark, he finally starts reacting, instead of taking a half-second to think before doing.

KCP becomes a defensive specialist, and a key to the offense for the second unit.

Jennings maintains his current play, with the occasional game of 16+ shots, but shooting close to 45% and keeping the offense running fluidly.

And for those interested, i dug up the two threads on preseason record projections.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1347445
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1351338

Reasonable expectations will lower everyone's blood pressure around here :D
User avatar
Ghost
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,452
And1: 509
Joined: Apr 05, 2014
Location: Hell
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#2 » by Ghost » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:58 am

I think I'll stick with my 31-35 win projection. If they surpass it, I would be happy... but if they fall short, that is also a good thing as we will have better lottery odds. I didn't think Drummond would look so bad so far like everybody else, but I thought Jennings would play 'well', he's played great.
ImHeisenberg
Head Coach
Posts: 6,465
And1: 2,323
Joined: Apr 01, 2013
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#3 » by ImHeisenberg » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:35 pm

38-44

This team has been in almost every game this season, they've yet to be blown out by anyone.

I think they can win 9 more games than last season. They just need to learn how to close. They've played better (mostly) as a team this season, which is promising, regardless of the fact that it hasn't translated into wins yet. They're right on the cusp.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,305
And1: 14,609
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#4 » by Snakebites » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:53 pm

^So you're thinking we're going to play pretty much .500 ball (35-36) for the rest of the year?

That's what would be needed to post that record, and that's a tad bolder than I'm prepared to go at this point. Add in the fact that we frankly haven't had a particularly difficult schedule so far, and yeah....
ImHeisenberg
Head Coach
Posts: 6,465
And1: 2,323
Joined: Apr 01, 2013
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#5 » by ImHeisenberg » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:26 pm

Snakebites wrote:^So you're thinking we're going to play pretty much .500 ball (35-36) for the rest of the year?

That's what would be needed to post that record, and that's a tad bolder than I'm prepared to go at this point. Add in the fact that we frankly haven't had a particularly difficult schedule so far, and yeah....


I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility

My line of thought is that this team has been in it until the last few minutes of all their losses, against the good and bad teams. I'd believe SVG is coaching them on how to close games.

Their record will probably fall short of that. But, the numbers seemed logical to me that early in the morning and without my coffee.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,305
And1: 14,609
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#6 » by Snakebites » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:31 pm

Yeah, I get it.

I just have a hard time projecting a team that's currently playing 3-8 ball on a relatively lax schedule suddenly kicking things up into borderline .500 ball starting immediately. And if it doesn't start immediately (IE, if we continue to play poorly for another week or 2, which we probably will even if we eventually get better) then we'd have to play BETTER than .500 ball for the rest of the year to hit that mark.

I think people underestimate how damaging doing this poorly in the first 11 games really is.
ImHeisenberg
Head Coach
Posts: 6,465
And1: 2,323
Joined: Apr 01, 2013
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#7 » by ImHeisenberg » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:44 pm

I probably underestimated that fact myself.

Call it optimism, or willing ignorance.
User avatar
MrBigShot
RealGM
Posts: 16,744
And1: 16,955
Joined: Dec 18, 2010
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#8 » by MrBigShot » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:49 pm

I'll go with 28 to 30 wins, in no mans land yet again.

I don't think I made an estimate in the last thread but if I did, it would've probably been more like 38 to 42.
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 37,294
And1: 21,854
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#9 » by MotownMadness » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:56 pm

Probably around 30 wins again
Whisper
Freshman
Posts: 87
And1: 30
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#10 » by Whisper » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:22 pm

Snakebites wrote:Yeah, I get it.

I just have a hard time projecting a team that's currently playing 3-8 ball on a relatively lax schedule suddenly kicking things up into borderline .500 ball starting immediately. And if it doesn't start immediately (IE, if we continue to play poorly for another week or 2, which we probably will even if we eventually get better) then we'd have to play BETTER than .500 ball for the rest of the year to hit that mark.

I think people underestimate how damaging doing this poorly in the first 11 games really is.


How quickly you forget :lol: The past several years our **** coaches have taken us on a last minute winning spree and have succeeded in lowering our draft position. :banghead: It CAN be done!!!!
DBC10
General Manager
Posts: 9,918
And1: 2,786
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
 

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#11 » by DBC10 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:10 pm

If we go into no mans land again, that might be enough to quit watching this team for a while. Just bottom out before we get to that point...jeesh.
User avatar
BadMofoPimp
RealGM
Posts: 47,347
And1: 11,574
Joined: Oct 12, 2003
Location: In the Paint

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#12 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:34 pm

I don't think the Pistons will reach my 50 wins projection, but I still feel this team could end up in the playoffs which is my main hope.

Because, this team should be different with Meeks and Martin back in the mix.

I do feel there will be a trade at some point.
Image

Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
User avatar
The Penguin
"Beat The Commish" Champion/Mr. Clean Slate
Posts: 7,262
And1: 4,107
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
Location: Columbus
     

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#13 » by The Penguin » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:10 pm

We'll pick between 7-10.


Again.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,305
And1: 14,609
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#14 » by Snakebites » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:48 pm

Whisper wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Yeah, I get it.

I just have a hard time projecting a team that's currently playing 3-8 ball on a relatively lax schedule suddenly kicking things up into borderline .500 ball starting immediately. And if it doesn't start immediately (IE, if we continue to play poorly for another week or 2, which we probably will even if we eventually get better) then we'd have to play BETTER than .500 ball for the rest of the year to hit that mark.

I think people underestimate how damaging doing this poorly in the first 11 games really is.


How quickly you forget :lol: The past several years our **** coaches have taken us on a last minute winning spree and have succeeded in lowering our draft position. :banghead: It CAN be done!!!!


Yeah, I think we'll go on a mini-run that gets us to about 30 or so wins.

I just don't think we'll hit 39 with it.
User avatar
TurboTitan
Starter
Posts: 2,183
And1: 1,936
Joined: Jul 12, 2013
Location: Windsor, ON
       

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#15 » by TurboTitan » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:22 am

32-35
“We don't see ourselves as All-Stars. We see ourselves as one unit. It's like five fingers on a hand. You can do more damage together as a fist than spread out flat.” ~SHEED
User avatar
Manocad
RealGM
Posts: 69,969
And1: 10,561
Joined: Dec 13, 2005
Location: Middle Fingerton
Contact:
       

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#16 » by Manocad » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:03 am

I originally predicted 38 wins and I don't see them getting there. They have some individual pieces that are better than their counterparts from last year, they show more future promise than last year, and they're more competitive than last year. But collectively as a team they're not showing much more propensity for wins than last year. All teams that win the same number of games are not equal, meaning they could be a better team than last year and still not win many more games. The only thing that equals wins is winning--not hope, promise, etc. Yes that sounds like a Captain Obvious comment but that's reality. I see them now in more the low 30's range.
Image
need4detroit
Analyst
Posts: 3,422
And1: 769
Joined: Apr 20, 2010
       

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#17 » by need4detroit » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:56 am

somewhere between and 11 13 games.
Detroit Sports Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/need4detroit
bkseven wrote:He's between average and above average.
User avatar
wire28
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,841
And1: 247
Joined: May 19, 2010
Location: right behind you....boo!

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#18 » by wire28 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:28 am

hard to believe but this team might end up with a worse record than the last couple of years. im going with 22 wins. we are so trash its ridiculous. i need to slap myself for thinking we could get an 8 seed
Deeeeeetroit Basketballlllllll
Billl
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,291
And1: 2,349
Joined: Sep 06, 2013

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#19 » by Billl » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:44 am

Eh- I think some people are underestimating how bad the east is. We are 2 games out of the playoffs. If we show any improvement, we'll be in the mix.
mus123
Junior
Posts: 278
And1: 61
Joined: Jul 03, 2013
     

Re: Pistons 14/15 Expectations and Record Projection - REDO 

Post#20 » by mus123 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:47 am

38 wins.

Return to Detroit Pistons