Dumars was a key Woj source - Interesting...

Kilo · Post #1 » by **Kilo** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:54 pm

In 2010, the NBA fined Dumars $500,000 for leaking multiple confidential league memos to Wojnarowski, according to multiple sources. This matches the third largest publicly known fine the league has ever handed down. The NBA decided that too many memos were making it into the media, so they conducted a sting operation over several months. They would change a few words or numbers in different team’s copies of otherwise identical memos, so that when the memos leaked they could spot the small differences and trace them back to the leaker. This approach caught Dumars red-handed, as well as an executive from another team who was fined $12,500 for leaking to a draft-focused website. Joe Dumars, the Detroit Pistons, and the NBA all declined to comment on the fine.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1205 ... his-scoops

First I ever heard if this - sorry if it's old news. Whole article is interesting - including all the news Woj broke on the Pistons making it very obvious he had deep source connections in the Pistons.

Post #2 » by **theBigLip** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:03 pm

Good post. First time I ever heard of this.

Ghost · Post #3 » by **Ghost** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:23 pm

I hadn't heard of this either, very interesting article indeed.

Woj vs Espn :lol:

MotownMadness · Post #4 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:53 pm

Finn McCool · Post #5 » by **Finn McCool** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:52 pm

Thanks for sharing, Kilo. Two thumbs up.

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:05 pm

Read about this on a few different websites. No surprising at all that Joe had to "buy" goodwill from reporters.

I don't really have much to say on it beyond that. Woj played the game to get great intel, and Dumars was worried about taking care of Dumars, as always.

Kilo · Post #7 » by **Kilo** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:13 pm

I'm surprised the league didn't come down harder - wish they would have forced him out in 2010! I wonder if it was because the team was for sale and with Tom Wilson already gone and the league didn't want to have Karen making any key personel decisions during the process.

WillTheThrill12 · Post #8 » by **WillTheThrill12** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:22 pm

Well looks like this pretty much solidifies that Joe Dumars would never be hired in the league ever again. Lol.

ImHeisenberg · Post #9 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:32 pm

WillTheThrill12 wrote:Well looks like this pretty much solidifies that Joe Dumars would never be hired in the league ever again. Lol.

I think the summer of Jennings/Smith locked that up.

kurtis48239 · Post #10 » by **kurtis48239** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:08 pm

Never heard anything about this,and I usually catch stories floating around.

kurtis48239 · Post #11 » by **kurtis48239** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:11 pm

Could it be really dumb luck what dumars did in the begining or him just falling off and out of the times that made him fall from grace.Iam going to go with the later.I will always give dumars his does for what he brought us,but goddamn,what a utter failure of an ending he had.

Whisper · Post #12 » by **Whisper** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:06 pm

Dumars was Wojo's Lewinsky :nod:

....or was it the other way around? :crazy:

epheisey · Post #13 » by **epheisey** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:14 am

Didn't know about this. I liked Dumars, just knew he wasn't right for the job after our run was finished. But this has me second guessing him.

I just have a big problem with someone being an "insider". I totally understand it has to be someone, but I expect it to be some lesser person in the chain of communication. Not the GM of the team.

The Penguin · Post #14 » by **The Penguin** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:15 am

kurtis48239 wrote:Could it be really dumb luck what dumars did in the begining or him just falling off and out of the times that made him fall from grace.Iam going to go with the later.I will always give dumars his does for what he brought us,but goddamn,what a utter failure of an ending he had.

The league got a lot smarter. It used to be the good old boys club with teams rotating the same retread GMs. Trades used to be done on the golf course with draft picks or young guys just tossed in. The analytics revolution hit, people realized the value of draft picks and rookie contract players and Joe got caught up in no mans land, with ownership unwilling to commit to a rebuild in the desperate hope for landing playoff revenue.

sfballa13 · Post #15 » by **sfballa13** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:05 am

I get Dumars leaked the info but the question is why?

Was it to put Woj in his pocket in regards to getting positive press from his articles?

I dont really understand Dumbass' motivation in all this

DBC10 · Post #16 » by **DBC10** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:56 am

sfballa13 wrote:I get Dumars leaked the info but the question is why?

Was it to put Woj in his pocket in regards to getting positive press from his articles?

I dont really understand Dumbass' motivation in all this

Probably, look at this article

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/pistons-iv ... --nba.html

It is so cringe-worthy in hindsight but look how glowing Woj is talking about Detroit.

Mr Peanut · Post #17 » by **Mr Peanut** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:00 am

That article from Woj implying that the Pistons would be the favorites in the LeBron sweepstakes of 2010 had me in hysterics.

epheisey · Post #18 » by **epheisey** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:02 am

oh wow...that article...just....wow

Sheeeeed · Post #19 » by **Sheeeeed** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:59 am

According to Jeff Moss, Dumars also "lent" $5,000 to Rob Parker, so this isn't really surprising.

Lucidity · Post #20 » by **Lucidity** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:40 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
WillTheThrill12 wrote:Well looks like this pretty much solidifies that Joe Dumars would never be hired in the league ever again. Lol.

I think the summer of Jennings/Smith locked that up.

This lol

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