theBigLip's First Annual Mock Draft Contest - 2016

[theBigLip]

Way too much time on my hands

Ok, the draft is June 23rd, about a month away. We can chatter back and forth to agree on the rules, but picks need to be in before the draft starts. Feel free to throw some out now, and update it later. So here is what I'm thinking would be good rules (feel free to give feedback)

1. The range of picks for this is #1 through #18 (I wasn't sure if it should be whole first round or just the lottery. I think up to our pick is a good compromise).

2. EDIT: ALL CORRECT PICKS ARE FIVE POINTS. SEE RULE #3 AS WELL. AND IT IS FOR PICKS 1-18 ONLY.

3. This is a tricky one, but I think it is needed. You still get points if you are close, but just not as many. If you are off by one draft position, you lose 2 points. If you are off two draft positions, you lose 4 points. Anymore than that, you get zero points. Also, these penalties can only drive the pick to zero points, no negatives. Otherwise you would get destroyed in the latter picks.

4. I'll track Chad Ford, NBADraft.net, DraftExpress, and any of us who want to play.

5. The winner gets honor and glory and a lot of money. That's true. Except for the last part

[theBigLip]

For the record, as of May 19, 2016:

Chad Ford:
1. Philadelphia 76ers - Ben Simmons
2. Los Angeles Lakers - Brandon Ingram
3. Boston Celtics (via Nets) - Jamal Murray
4. Phoenix Suns - Dragan Bender
5. Minnesota Timberwolves - Kris Dunn
6. New Orleans Pelicans -Buddy Hield
7. Denver Nuggets - Henry Ellenson
8. Sacramento Kings -Jaylen Brown
9. Toronto Raptors (via Knicks) - Marquese Chriss
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Jakob Poeltl
11. Orlando Magic - Skal Labissiere
12. Utah Jazz - Furkan Korkmaz
13. Phoenix Suns (via Wizards) - Denzel Valentine
14. Chicago Bulls - Deyonta Davis
15. Denver Nuggets (via Rockets) - Tyler Ulis
16. Boston Celtics (via Mavericks) - Ante Zizic
17. Memphis Grizzlies - Domantas Sabonis
18. Detroit Pistons - Wade Baldwin IV

[theBigLip]

As of May 19, 2016:

Draft Express:
1. Brandon Ingram
2. Ben Simmons
3. Dragan Bender
4. Jaylen Brown
5. Kris Dunn
6. Jamal Murray
7. Buddy Hield
8. Skal Labissiere
9. Deyonta Davis
10. Jakob Poeltl
11. Marquese Chriss
12. Denzel Valentine
13. Henry Ellenson
14. Timothe Luwawu
15. Furkan Korkmaz
16. Taurean Prince
17. Wade Baldwin
18. Domantas Sabonis

[theBigLip]

As of May 19, 2016:

NBADraft.net:
1 Philadelphia -Ben Simmons
2 LA Lakers - Brandon Ingram
3 Boston - Buddy Hield
4 Phoenix - Dragan Bender
5 Minnesota - Jamal Murray
6 New Orleans - Kris Dunn
7 Denver - Jaylen Brown
8 Sacramento - Domantas Sabonis
9 Toronto - Jakob Poeltl
10 Milwaukee - Marquese Chriss
11 Orlando - Deyonta Davis
12 Utah - Furkan Korkmaz
13 Phoenix - Skal Labissiere
14 Chicago - Malik Beasley
15 Denver - Dejounte Murray
16 Boston - Denzel Valentine
17 Memphis - Henry Ellenson
18 Detroit - Brice Johnson

[MotownMadness]

Sixers- Ingram
Lakers- Simmons
Celtics- Heild
Suns- Bender
Wolves- Murray
NOs- Dunn
Nuggets- Brown
Kings- Skal
Raptors- chriss
Bucks- Poeltl
Magic- Davis
Jazz- Bembry
Suns- Luwawu
Bulls- Baldwin
Nuggets- Ellenson
Celtics- Korkmaz
Grizzlies- Sabonis
Pistons- D. Jackson

[ElectricMayhem]

Fun idea, but what is the rationale for the declining point values? The person who correctly guesses which order Ingram and Simmons go in will have a 35 point buffer. To put it another way, the person who switches the order of person 1 & 2 but has everything correct from 12-18 will lose to the person who got Simmons & Ingram in the right order but missed everything else.

[coordinator0]

Fun idea, but what is the rationale for the declining point values? The person who correctly guesses which order Ingram and Simmons go in will have a 35 point buffer. To put it another way, the person who switches the order of person 1 & 2 but has everything correct from 12-18 will lose to the person who got Simmons & Ingram in the right order but missed everything else.

Yeah, I'm not sure an inverted point system is the way to go. The top of a draft is always quite a bit easier to project than the bottom (or to 18 in this case). But for a system with uneven point scoring should the harder picks be worth more points? I just don't think it's a good way to score something like this. The competition on the mock draft board last year used a really convoluted formula for scoring and I don't think that would be a solution either.

My suggestion would be something like 3 points for every player to the correct team with the correct pick, 2 points for every player to the correct team (but at a different pick), and 1 point for every player at the correct pick (but to a different team).

I'll be submitting my entry in a couple weeks regardless. Otherwise I would have hundreds of edits. Any of the mocks theBigLip posted would make me happy though. Baldwin, Sabonis, and Johnson are my top three guys at the moment.

[theBigLip]

I can flatten out the points so it is the same 1-18. It will certainly make those later picks the key to winning the pool, but it will be more exciting to watch the draft!

[Kilo]

Rules Violators will be Prosecuted!

[joseph mamah]

1. Philadelphia- Ingram
2.  Lakers-  Simmons
3. Boston- Bender
4. Phoenix (sac)- Murray
5. Minnesota- Dunn
6. New Orleans- Poetl
7. Denver- Brown
8. Sacramento (pho)- Labissier
9. Toronto- Chriss
10. Milwaukee- Hield
11. Orlando- Davis
12. Utah- Luawu
13. Phoenix- Prince
14. Chicago- Baldwin
15. Denver- Ellenson
16. Boston- Kormaz
17. Memphis- Jackson
18. Detroit- Ulis

[sinnombre2323]

1. Philadelphia- Ben Simmons
2. LA Lakers- Brandon Ingram
3. Boston- Dragan Bender
4. Phoenix- Jaylen Brown
5. Minnesota- Jamal Murray
6. New Orleans- Buddy Hield
7. Denver- Henry Ellenson
8. Sacramento- Kris Dunn
9. Toronto- Skal Labissiere
10. Milwaukee- Timothe Luwawu
11. Orlando- Marquese Chriss
12. Utah- Denzel Valentine
13. Phoenix- Domantas Sabonis
14. Chicago- Demetrius Jackson
15. Denver- Furkan Korkmaz
16. Boston- Jakob Poeltl
17. Memphis- Wade Baldwin
18. Detroit- DeAndre Bembry

[Montanabadboy]

Fun idea! I'll want to do a little more research first before I start putting mine together. On a side note, I would lose my mind if Sabonas went 1 pick ahead of us.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think Pistons go with Brice Johnson. No need for Bembry.

[theBigLip]

I'm going to bump just to keep this close to the top. Got a lot of Finals to watch first, but then I'l lbe digging into the draft for sure...

[coordinator0]

To give this a little bump I will have mine up tomorrow or the day of the draft. It's going to be really hard this year. Even if there's a certain group of prospects expected to go 3-8 and then a somewhat stable group from 9-14ish, most of the guys in those ranges could go to any team. Most drafts there's a certain feeling around some teams in terms of where they're leaning. Not this year though.

Since it doesn't look like they're running a mock draft competition in the draft forum this year I'll have to settle for defending my crown here.

[theBigLip]

Thanks for the bump. So get your picks in early. I will try to post real time the results if I get my **** together and get it all in a spreadsheet before draft time

[coordinator0]

It's sure to have some edits before the draft starts tomorrow, but here's mine for now.

1. Philadelphia 76ers - Ben Simmons
2. Los Angeles Lakers - Brandon Ingram
3. Boston Celtics (from BKN) - Jaylen Brown
4. Phoenix Suns - Marquese Chriss
5. Minnesota Timberwolves - Kris Dunn
6. New Orleans Pelicans - Buddy Hield
7. Denver Nuggets (from NY) - Dragan Bender
8. Sacramento Kings - Jamal Murray
9. Toronto Raptors (from DEN via NY) - Domantas Sabonis
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Dejounte Murray
11. Orlando Magic - Skal Labissiere
12. Atlanta Hawks (from UTA) - Jakob Poeltl
13. Phoenix Suns (from WAS) - Timothe Luwawu
14. Chicago Bulls - Wade Baldwin IV
15. Denver Nuggets (from HOU) - Furkan Korkmaz
16. Boston Celtics (from DAL) - Henry Ellenson
17. Memphis Grizzlies - Malachi Richardson
18. Detroit Pistons - Deyonta Davis

And just because I like torturing myself:

19. Denver Nuggets (from POR) - Juan Hernangomez
20. Indiana Pacers - Malik Beasley
21. Atlanta Hawks - Taurean Prince
22. Charlotte Hornets - Denzel Valentine
23. Boston Celtics - Ivica Zubac
24. Philadelphia 76ers (from MIA via CLE) - Demetrius Jackson
25. Los Angeles Clippers - Brice Johnson
26. Philadelphia 76ers (from OKC via DEN and CLE) - DeAndre Bembry
27. Toronto Raptors - Paul Zipser
28. Phoenix Suns (from CLE via BOS) - Ante Zizic
29. San Antonio Spurs - Damian Jones
30. Golden State Warriors - Cheick Diallo

[RexRyan]

Cutting and pasting Coordinator's for now, I'll make changes later today.....

1. Philadelphia 76ers - Ben Simmons
2. Los Angeles Lakers - Brandon Ingram
3. Boston Celtics (from BKN) - Kris Dunn
4. Phoenix Suns - Jaylen Brown
5. Minnesota Timberwolves - Marquese Chriss
6. New Orleans Pelicans - Buddy Hield
7. Denver Nuggets (from NY) - Dragan Bender
8. Sacramento Kings - Jamal Murray
9. Toronto Raptors (from DEN via NY) - Dejounte Murray
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Domantas Sabonis
11. Orlando Magic - Skal Labissiere
12. Atlanta Hawks (from UTA) - Jakob Poeltl
13. Phoenix Suns (from WAS) - Timothe Luwawu
14. Chicago Bulls - Deyonta Davis
15. Denver Nuggets (from HOU) - Denzel Valentine
16. Boston Celtics (from DAL) - Tauren Prince
17. Memphis Grizzlies - Malachi Richardson
18. Detroit Pistons - Wade Baldwin IV

[theBigLip]

Cutting and pasting Coordinator's for now, I'll make changes later today.....

1. Philadelphia 76ers - Ben Simmons
2. Los Angeles Lakers - Brandon Ingram
3. Boston Celtics (from BKN) - Kris Dunn
4. Phoenix Suns - Jaylen Brown
5. Minnesota Timberwolves - Marquese Chriss
6. New Orleans Pelicans - Buddy Hield
7. Denver Nuggets (from NY) - Dragan Bender
8. Sacramento Kings - Jamal Murray
9. Toronto Raptors (from DEN via NY) - Dejounte Murray
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Domantas Sabonis
11. Orlando Magic - Skal Labissiere
12. Atlanta Hawks (from UTA) - Jakob Poeltl
13. Phoenix Suns (from WAS) - Timothe Luwawu
14. Chicago Bulls - Deyonta Davis
15. Denver Nuggets (from HOU) - Denzel Valentine
16. Boston Celtics (from DAL) - Tauren Prince
17. Memphis Grizzlies - Malachi Richardson
18. Detroit Pistons - Wade Baldwin IV

Actually, I'd rather you didn't do it this way. Just post when you are ready. I'm entering everyone's picks into a spreadsheet, so if anyone has "edited" their post, I think it should be disqualified, otherwise, you can get a perfect score with a few edits after the fact

[Kilo]

I edited mine a few times - I thought that was allowed up until the draft. So I'm DQ'd already. No worries. Is strange that there is no "edited at - " footer added to posts when edited.