100 Greatest QBs of the Modern Era

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100 Greatest QBs of the Modern Era 

Post#1 » by Basketball Jesus » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:58 pm

One man's (quasi-)statistical take on the 100 greatest QBs of the modern era:

http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?tit ... Modern_Era

Some pretty interesting names pop up in the top ten, especially the wholly underappreciated Kenny Anderson.
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Post#2 » by kooldude » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:43 pm

who's Kenny Anderson? :D
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Post#3 » by Pierce 4 3 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:20 pm

Brady at 54!? :eek1: Manning at 15!? :eek1:
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Post#4 » by Monkeyfeng06 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:24 am

no carson palmer??
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Post#5 » by bigboy1234 » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:18 am

This would have been a great list if he would have found a way to use there peaks, not just total PAR. Meaning Young would be arguably first, and putting Manning in the top 5. Decent list though.
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Post#6 » by J.Kim » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:27 am

I know eras are accounted and adjusted for with the normalization of stats based on the league numbers per year, but did he account for the various styles of offenses that teams ran?

I think that would have a tremendous amount of impact on these rankings....
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Post#7 » by Buck4Life » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:35 pm

lame... where's my boy carson? :x
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Post#8 » by High 5 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:53 pm

Glad someone else realizes how good Vick was in '02, his only real year with Reeves and company.
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Post#9 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:08 am

In general seems pretty decent but some thing's are just glaringly bad to me. Otto Graham as the #3 QB of the 50s? Yes I know he only played 6 seasons of that decade, but in that time he led his team to 3 Titles, 6 Finals and had 5 All-NFLs.

Glad to see Cunningham gets some love. It's stunning to me that a player can win 3 MVPs in a sport where even the best of players can get their career ended abruptly by injury, and get dismissed by people in discussions of the greats.
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Post#10 » by J.Kim » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:46 am

Why do I keep getting the feeling that this guy didn't totally account for era differences.

I'm looking at some of the adjusted stats, and some of the top passers of the early 70s and before, seem to be underrated by a lot. (They seem to top off at around 3000 Yards passing, while some of the more recent top passers top off at around 4000 yards...)
Now I don't know whether this is supposed to happen... but it just doesn't look right for some reason...
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Post#11 » by livestrong4ever » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:00 pm

Pierce 4 3 wrote:Brady at 54!? :eek1: Manning at 15!? :eek1:


Who has the touchdown record agian?
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Post#12 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:04 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Who has the touchdown record agian?


I'm guessing his issue isn't with Manning being ahead of Brady, but with how low each of them is.
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Post#13 » by Reks » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:49 am

I love that McNabb is at 39th..
ahead of Brady!
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Post#14 » by Elway=GOAT » Mon Oct 8, 2007 10:18 pm

I agree in general, obviously, I believe Elway is the best ever. But, definatly debatable. Brady being that low is ludacris. When he sets the touchdown record this year, I wonder how this list would be adjusted.

Overall though, solid and reasonable. Obviously its debatable, but dude put alot of time into I think.
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Post#15 » by JaxMagic » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:08 pm

Look at the love for Mark Brunell! :clap:
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Re: 100 Greatest QBs of the Modern Era 

Post#16 » by Anklebreaker702 » Thu Feb 5, 2009 5:20 am

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Re: 100 Greatest QBs of the Modern Era 

Post#17 » by prolific passer » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:08 am

Tarkenton at 3 and Anderson at 7? You know this list is messed up when those 2 are ranked that high.
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Post#18 » by Roger Murdock » Tue Dec 1, 2009 8:23 pm

Tarkenton should be top 10 at least. It needs updated, manning is top 3 by now im sure, maybe number 1.
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Post#19 » by DQuinn1575 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:28 am

prolific passer wrote:Tarkenton at 3 and Anderson at 7? You know this list is messed up when those 2 are ranked that high.


Tarkenton is probably top 10 and Anderson top 20 so it isnt really that bad

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