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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#101 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jan 2, 2017 5:46 am

1/1/17

1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
2. San Francisco - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
3. Chicago - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
4. Jacksonville - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Tennessee (from LA) - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
6. NY Jets - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
7. San Diego - Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
8. Carolina - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
9. Cincinnati - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
10. Buffalo - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
11. New Orleans - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
12. Cleveland (from PHI) - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
13. Arizona - Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
14. Indianapolis - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
15. Philadelphia (from MIN) - Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
16. Baltimore - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
17. Washington - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
18. Tennessee - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
19. Tampa Bay - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
20. Denver - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
21. Houston - Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
22. Detroit - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
23. Green Bay - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
24. Miami - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
25. Seattle - Garett Bolles (OT, Utah)
26. Atlanta - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
27. NY Giants - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
28. Pittsburgh - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
29. Oakland - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
30. Kansas City - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
31. Dallas - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
32. New England - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)

33. Cleveland - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
34. San Francisco - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
35. Jacksonville - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
36. Chicago - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
37. Los Angeles - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
38. San Diego - John Ross (WR, Washington)
39. NY Jets - David Njoku (TE, Miami)
40. Carolina - Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
41. Cincinnati - Budda Baker (SS, Washington)
42. New Orleans - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
43. Philadelphia - Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
44. Buffalo - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
45. Arizona - Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
46. Minnesota - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
47. Baltimore - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
48. Indianapolis - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
49. Washington - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
50. Tampa Bay - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
51. Denver - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
52. Cleveland (from TEN) - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
53. Houston - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
54. Green Bay - Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
55. Detroit - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
56. Miami - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
57. Seattle - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
58. NY Giants - Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
59. Pittsburgh - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
60. Atlanta - Carlos Watkins (DT, Clemson)
61. Kansas City - Pat Elflein (OC, Ohio State)
62. Oakland - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
63. Dallas - Dede Westbrook (WR, Oklahoma)
64. New England - Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)

65. Cleveland - Jordan Leggett (TE, Clemson)
66. San Francisco - Tyquan Lewis (DE, Ohio State)
67. Chicago - Harold Landry (DE, Boston College)
68. Jacksonville - Lowell Lotulelei (DT, Utah)
69. Tennessee - Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
70. NY Jets - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
71. San Diego - Dion Dawkins (OT, Temple)
72. Carolina - Dorian Johnson (OG, Pittsburgh)
73. Cincinnati - Alvin Kamara (RB, Tennessee)
74. Philadelphia - Wayne Gallman (RB, Clemson)
75. Buffalo - Davis Webb (QB, California)
76. New Orleans - Cameron Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
77. Arizona - Isaiah Ford (WR, Virginia Tech)
78. Baltimore - Malachi Dupre (WR, LSU)
79. Indianapolis - Ryan Anderson (OLB, Alabama)
80. Minnesota - Corey Clement (RB, Wisconsin)
81. Washington - Brian Hill (RB, Wyoming)
82. Denver - Adam Bisnowaty (OT, Pittsburgh)
83. Tennessee - Gerald Everett (TE, South Alabama)
84. Tampa Bay - Forrest Lamp (OT, Western Kentucky)
85. Houston - Chad Wheeler (OT, USC)
86. Detroit - Nazair Jones (DT, North Carolina)
87. Green Bay - Jake Butt (TE, Michigan)
88. Minnesota - Tyrone Crowder (OG, Clemson)
89. Seattle - Eddie Jackson (FS, Alabama)
90. Pittsburgh - Chidobe Awuzie (CB, Colorado)
91. Atlanta - Courtland Sutton (WR, SMU)
92. Oakland - Carroll Phillips (DE, Illinois)
93. Kansas City - Jaleel Johnson (DT, Iowa)
94. Dallas - Haason Reddick (OLB, Temple)
95. New England - Avery Gennesy (OT, Texas A&M)
96. NY Giants - Jeremy McNichols (RB, Boise State)
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#102 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Jan 2, 2017 5:52 am

No complaints about Allen but he would be a dt here not a de.

I would probably take ramczyk instead of Pocic because I feel our rt is being cut and we have no real in-house candidates.

I get the value of stars brother but unless we cut miller and let abry jones(who's shown to be at least a very capable starter) there's no need to double dip at dt. Instead I would look more towards kaaya(even our gm acknowledges Blake bortles needs competition at least or another linemen. Id probably go with lamp because he reminds me of Zack Martin

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Post#103 » by hermes » Mon Jan 2, 2017 4:38 pm

the two lineman make sense for the vikings, don't know about clement though. for one he gets injured a lot and i don't know if the vikings will take a rb that early (a lot will depend on if adrian is back, if he isn't they probably will go earlier for one)
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#104 » by Rockboy25 » Thu Jan 5, 2017 2:57 pm

1. Cleveland- Jonathan Allen DE/DT

2. San Francisco- Myles Garrett DE

3. Chicago- Deshaun Watson QB

4. Jacksonville- Jamal Adams SS

5. Tennessee- Jabrill Peppers OLB/CB/FS

6. Jets- Cam Robinson OT

7. San Deigo- Mike Williams WR

8. Carolina- Leonard Fournette RB

9. Cincinnati- Ruben Foster ILB

10. Buffalo- Teez Tabor CB

11. New Orleans- Malik Hooker CB/FS

12. Cleveland- Mitch Trubisky QB

13. Arizona- Corey Davis WR

14. Philadelphia- Marlon Humphrey CB

15. Indianapolis- Tim Williams OLB

16. Baltimore- Quincy Wilson CB

17. Washington- JuJu Smith WR

18. Tennessee- Taco Charlton DE

19. Tampa Bay- Dalvin Cook RB

20. Denver- John Ross WR

21. Detroit- Ryan Ramczyk OT

22. Miami- Charles Harris DE/OLB

23. Giants- O.J. Howard TE

24. Oakland- Carl Lawson DE

25. Seattle- Carlos Watkins DT

26. Houston- Zach Cunningham OLB

27. Green Bay- Soloman Thomas

28. Pittsburgh- Malik McDowell DT/DE

29. Atlanta- DeMarcus Walker DE

30. Kansas City- Christian McCaffery RB/WR

31. New England- Gareon Conley CB

32. Dallas- Dan Feeney OG
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#105 » by cospec914 » Sun Jan 8, 2017 1:12 pm

I've seen some talk about Tim Williams going in the top 10. I think Watson is a second round talent at best.
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#106 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 3:23 pm

cospec914 wrote:I've seen some talk about Tim Williams going in the top 10. I think Watson is a second round talent at best.


I don't disagree, but QBs get pushed up the draft every year.
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Post#107 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 10:37 pm

1/9/17 (Big Board)

1. Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
2. Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
3. Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
4. Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
5. Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
6. Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
7. Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
8. Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
9. Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
10. Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
11. Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
12. Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
13. Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
14. Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
15. Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
16. Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
17. Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
18. Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
19. Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
20. Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
21. Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
22. Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
23. Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
24. Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
25. OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
26. DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
27. Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
28. Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
29. Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
30. Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
31. Garett Bolles (OT, Utah)
32. John Ross (WR, Washington)
33. Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
34. DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
35. JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
36. Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
37. Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
38. Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
39. Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
40. Budda Baker (SS, Washington)
41. Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
42. Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
43. Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
44. D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
45. Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
46. Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
47. Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
48. Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
49. Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
50. Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
51. TJ Watt (OLB, Wisconsin)
52. David Njoku (TE, Miami)
53. Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
54. Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
55. Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
56. Harold Landry (DE, Boston College)
57. Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
58. Carlos Watkins (DT, Clemson)
59. Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
60. Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
61. Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
62. Cameron Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
63. Malachi Dupre (WR, LSU)
64. Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
65. Tyquan Lewis (DE, Ohio State)
66. Forrest Lamp (OT, Western Kentucky)
67. Dede Westbrook (WR, Oklahoma)
68. Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)
69. Ryan Anderson (OLB, Alabama)
70. Tyrone Crowder (OG, Clemson)
71. Pat Elflein (OC, Ohio State)
72. Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
73. Davon Godchaux (DT, LSU)
74. Nazair Jones (DT, North Carolina)
75. Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
76. Dion Dawkins (OT, Temple)
77. Wayne Gallman (RB, Clemson)
78. Eddie Jackson (FS, Alabama)
79. Haason Reddick (OLB, Temple)
80. Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
81. Jaleel Johnson (DT, Iowa)
82. Alvin Kamara (RB, Tennessee)
83. Kevin King (CB, Washington)
84. Adam Bisnowaty (OT, Pittsburgh)
85. Jordan Leggett (TE, Clemson)
86. Brian Hill (RB, Wyoming)
87. Chidobe Awuzie (CB, Colorado)
88. Cooper Kupp (WR, Eastern Washington)
89. Chad Wheeler (OT, USC)
90. Jeremy McNichols (RB, Boise State)
91. Joe Mixon (RB, Oklahoma)
92. Dalvin Tomlinson (DT, Alabama)
93. Dorian Johnson (OG, Pittsburgh)
94. Isaiah Ford (WR, Virginia Tech)
95. Carroll Phillips (DE, Illinois)
96. Howard Wilson (CB, Houston)
97. Rasul Douglas (CB, West Virginia)
98. Avery Gennesy (OT, Texas A&M)
99. Corey Clement (RB, Wisconsin)
100. Chris Godwin (WR, Penn State)
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Post#108 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:17 pm

1/10/17

1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
2. San Francisco - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
3. Chicago - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
4. Jacksonville - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Tennessee (from LA) - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
6. NY Jets - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
7. San Diego - Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
8. Carolina - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
9. Cincinnati - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
10. Buffalo - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
11. New Orleans - Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
12. Cleveland (from PHI) - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
13. Arizona - Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
14. Indianapolis - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
15. Philadelphia (from MIN) - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
16. Baltimore - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
17. Washington - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
18. Tennessee - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
19. Tampa Bay - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
20. Denver - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
21. Detroit - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
22. Miami - Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
23. NY Giants - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
24. Oakland - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
25. Houston - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
26. Green Bay - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
27. Seattle - Garett Bolles (OT, Utah)
28. Atlanta - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
29. Pittsburgh - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
30. Kansas City - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
31. Dallas - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
32. New England - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)

33. Cleveland - Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
34. San Francisco - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
35. Jacksonville - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
36. Chicago - John Ross (WR, Washington)
37. Los Angeles - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
38. San Diego - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
39. NY Jets - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
40. Carolina - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
41. Cincinnati - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
42. New Orleans - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
43. Philadelphia - Dede Westbrook (WR, Oklahoma)
44. Buffalo - David Njoku (TE, Miami)
45. Arizona - Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
46. Minnesota - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
47. Baltimore - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
48. Indianapolis - TJ Watt (OLB, Wisconsin)
49. Washington - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
50. Tampa Bay - Budda Baker (SS, Washington)
51. Denver - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
52. Cleveland (from TEN) - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
53. Houston - Carlos Watkins (DT, Clemson)
54. Green Bay - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
55. NY Giants - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
56. Kansas City - Ryan Anderson (OLB, Alabama)
57. Detroit - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
58. Miami - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
59. Seattle - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
60. Pittsburgh - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
61. Atlanta - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
62. Oakland - Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
63. Dallas - Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
64. New England - Pat Elflein (OC, Ohio State)

65. Cleveland - Tyrone Crowder (OG, Clemson)
66. San Francisco - Haason Reddick (OLB, Temple)
67. Chicago - Forrest Lamp (OT, Western Kentucky)
68. Jacksonville - Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
69. Tennessee - Malachi Dupre (WR, LSU)
70. NY Jets - Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)
71. San Diego - Dion Dawkins (OT, Temple)
72. Carolina - Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
73. Cincinnati - Chidobe Awuzie (CB, Colorado)
74. Philadelphia - Alvin Kamara (RB, Tennessee)
75. Buffalo - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
76. New Orleans - Cameron Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
77. Arizona - Davis Webb (QB, California)
78. Baltimore - Nazair Jones (DT, North Carolina)
79. Indianapolis - Wayne Gallman (RB, Clemson)
80. Minnesota - Davon Godchaux (DT, LSU)
81. Washington - Brian Hill (RB, Wyoming)
82. Denver - Adam Bisnowaty (OT, Pittsburgh)
83. Tennessee - Jordan Leggett (TE, Clemson)
84. Tampa Bay - Joe Mixon (RB, Oklahoma)
85. Detroit - Dorian Johnson (OG, Pittsburgh)
86. Minnesota - Jeremy McNichols (RB, Boise State)
87. Pittsburgh - Kevin King (CB, Washington)
88. Oakland - Carroll Phillips (DE, Illinois)
89. Houston - Chad Wheeler (OT, USC)
90. Green Bay - Gerald Everett (TE, South Alabama)
91. Seattle - Eddie Jackson (FS, Alabama)
92. Atlanta - Dalvin Tomlinson (DT, Alabama)
93. Kansas City - Jaleel Johnson (DT, Iowa)
94. Dallas - Isaiah Ford (WR, Virginia Tech)
95. New England - Howard Wilson (CB, Houston)
96. NY Giants - Avery Gennesy (OT, Texas A&M)
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#109 » by kdawg32086 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:37 pm

Cammo, do you think Myles Garrett projects better as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB? In watching A&M games, I'm struggling to comprehend how he doesn't bust as a 3-4 OLB...
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Post#110 » by Cammo101 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:01 pm

kdawg32086 wrote:Cammo, do you think Myles Garrett projects better as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB? In watching A&M games, I'm struggling to comprehend how he doesn't bust as a 3-4 OLB...


I think he's pretty clearly a 4-3 DE. He may be athletic enough to become a 3-4 OLB, but it's always a risky move. A lot of good hand on the ground DE's have been ruined by that position switch.
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Post#111 » by kdawg32086 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:41 pm

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kdawg32086 wrote:Cammo, do you think Myles Garrett projects better as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB? In watching A&M games, I'm struggling to comprehend how he doesn't bust as a 3-4 OLB...


I think he's pretty clearly a 4-3 DE. He may be athletic enough to become a 3-4 OLB, but it's always a risky move. A lot of good hand on the ground DE's have been ruined by that position switch.


Haha, glad I'm not crazy in thinking the same thing. Why does everyone seem to think he's such a great fit in Cleveland? Don't they run a 3-4?
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Post#112 » by Cammo101 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:58 am

kdawg32086 wrote:
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kdawg32086 wrote:Cammo, do you think Myles Garrett projects better as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB? In watching A&M games, I'm struggling to comprehend how he doesn't bust as a 3-4 OLB...


I think he's pretty clearly a 4-3 DE. He may be athletic enough to become a 3-4 OLB, but it's always a risky move. A lot of good hand on the ground DE's have been ruined by that position switch.


Haha, glad I'm not crazy in thinking the same thing. Why does everyone seem to think he's such a great fit in Cleveland? Don't they run a 3-4?


They do, but like Bosa to SD last year, I think they see him more as a 3-4 DE than a 3-4 OLB.
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Post#113 » by kdawg32086 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:02 am

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kdawg32086 wrote:
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I think he's pretty clearly a 4-3 DE. He may be athletic enough to become a 3-4 OLB, but it's always a risky move. A lot of good hand on the ground DE's have been ruined by that position switch.


Haha, glad I'm not crazy in thinking the same thing. Why does everyone seem to think he's such a great fit in Cleveland? Don't they run a 3-4?


They do, but like Bosa to SD last year, I think they see him more as a 3-4 DE than a 3-4 OLB.


Makes sense. What are your thoughts on how Allen would potentially fit in there as a 3-4 DE? Better or worse than Garrett?
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Post#114 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:04 am

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Post#115 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:36 am

kdawg32086 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
kdawg32086 wrote:Cammo, do you think Myles Garrett projects better as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB? In watching A&M games, I'm struggling to comprehend how he doesn't bust as a 3-4 OLB...


I think he's pretty clearly a 4-3 DE. He may be athletic enough to become a 3-4 OLB, but it's always a risky move. A lot of good hand on the ground DE's have been ruined by that position switch.


Haha, glad I'm not crazy in thinking the same thing. Why does everyone seem to think he's such a great fit in Cleveland? Don't they run a 3-4?

Pretty sure they changed coordinators defensively so they probably looking at a 4-3 with Greg Williams

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Post#116 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:32 am

kdawg32086 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
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Haha, glad I'm not crazy in thinking the same thing. Why does everyone seem to think he's such a great fit in Cleveland? Don't they run a 3-4?


They do, but like Bosa to SD last year, I think they see him more as a 3-4 DE than a 3-4 OLB.


Makes sense. What are your thoughts on how Allen would potentially fit in there as a 3-4 DE? Better or worse than Garrett?


I think Allen's best fit would be as a 3-4 DE. It's pretty much what he played so well at Bama.
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#117 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:17 pm

1/17/17

1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
2. San Francisco - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
3. Chicago - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
4. Jacksonville - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. Tennessee (from LA) - Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
6. NY Jets - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
7. LA Chargers - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
8. Carolina - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
9. Cincinnati - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
10. Buffalo - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
11. New Orleans - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
12. Cleveland (from PHI) - Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
13. Arizona - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
14. Indianapolis - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
15. Philadelphia (from MIN) - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
16. Baltimore - Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
17. Washington - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
18. Tennessee - Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
19. Tampa Bay - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
20. Denver - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
21. Detroit - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
22. Miami - Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
23. NY Giants - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
24. Oakland - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
25. Houston - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
26. Seattle - Garett Bolles (OT, Utah)
27. Kansas City - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
28. Dallas - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
29. Green Bay - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
30. Atlanta - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
31. Pittsburgh - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
32. New England - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)

33. Cleveland - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
34. San Francisco - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
35. Jacksonville - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
36. Chicago - John Ross (WR, Washington)
37. Los Angeles - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
38. LA Chargers - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
39. NY Jets - David Njoku (TE, Miami)
40. Carolina - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
41. Cincinnati - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
42. New Orleans - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
43. Philadelphia - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
44. Buffalo - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
45. Arizona - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
46. Minnesota - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
47. Baltimore - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
48. Indianapolis - TJ Watt (OLB, Wisconsin)
49. Washington - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
50. Tampa Bay - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
51. Denver - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
52. Cleveland (from TEN) - Budda Baker (SS, Washington)
53. Houston - Chris Wormley (DT, Michigan)
54. NY Giants - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
55. Detroit - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
56. Miami - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
57. Oakland - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
58. Seattle - Carlos Watkins (DT, Clemson)
59. Kansas City - Forrest Lamp (OT, Western Kentucky)
60. Dallas - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
61. Green Bay - Amara Darboh (WR, Michigan)
62. Pittsburgh - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
63. Atlanta - Dede Westbrook (WR, Oklahoma)
64. New England - Ryan Anderson (OLB, Alabama)
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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#118 » by Celtsfan1980 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:39 pm

How much of Watt's stock is based on his brother?
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Post#119 » by TDJacksonville » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:47 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:How much of Watt's stock is based on his brother?

He's a legit 3-4 olb. Has production as well vs good competition.

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Re: Cammo's 2017 NFL Mock Draft 

Post#120 » by cospec914 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:19 pm

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cospec914 wrote:I've seen some talk about Tim Williams going in the top 10. I think Watson is a second round talent at best.


I don't disagree, but QBs get pushed up the draft every year.


True, but cases like Bridgewater and Carr happen where fans are viewing them as very high commodities while GMs have a much different grade on them. Sometimes winning at the collegiate level over-inflates a prospects worth.

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