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Post#61 » by Celtsfan1980 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:24 pm

Barnett has put up numbers close to what Garrett has. Why is he so low? Many Browns fans compare Hooker to Ed Reed. Why is he not top 5?
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Post#62 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:42 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Barnett has put up numbers close to what Garrett has. Why is he so low? Many Browns fans compare Hooker to Ed Reed. Why is he not top 5?

Booker is Cuz he has reed potential but clearly inexperienced

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Post#63 » by Cammo101 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:02 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Barnett has put up numbers close to what Garrett has. Why is he so low? Many Browns fans compare Hooker to Ed Reed. Why is he not top 5?


Garrett has been playing hurt all year. He is much better than his numbers. Hooker could go top 5 depending who is doing the picking. He's definitely that good.
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Post#64 » by Cammo101 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:44 am

11/28/16

1. Cleveland - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
2. San Francisco - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
3. Chicago - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
4. Jacksonville - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
5. NY Jets - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
6. Cincinnati - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
7. Tennessee (from LA) - Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
8. Carolina - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
9. Green Bay - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
10. Arizona - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
11. New Orleans - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
12. Indianapolis - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
13. San Diego - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
14. Tennessee - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
15. Cleveland (from PHI) - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
16. Philadelphia (from MIN) - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
17. Tampa Bay - John Ross (WR, Washington)
18. Baltimore - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
19. Buffalo - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
20. Houston - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
21. Pittsburgh - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
22. Washington - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
23. Miami - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
24. Detroit - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
25. Denver - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
26. Atlanta - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
27. Seattle - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
28. NY Giants - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)
29. Kansas City - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
30. Oakland - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
31. New England - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
32. Dallas - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)

33. Cleveland - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
34. San Francisco - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
35. Chicago - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
36. Jacksonville - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
37. NY Jets - Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)
38. Cincinnati - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
39. Los Angeles - Mike McGlinchey (OT, Notre Dame)
40. Carolina - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
41. Green Bay - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
42. Arizona - Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
43. New Orleans - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
44. Indianapolis - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
45. San Diego - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
46. Cleveland (from TEN) - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
47. Philadelphia - Malachi Dupre (WR, LSU)
48. Minnesota - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
49. Tampa Bay - Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
50. Baltimore - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
51. Buffalo - Chris Wormley (DE, Michigan)
52. Houston - Adam Bisnowaty (OT, Pittsburgh)
53. Pittsburgh - Cameron Sutton (CB, Tennessee)
54. Washington - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
55. Miami - Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
56. Detroit - Marquis Haynes (DE, Ole Miss)
57. Denver - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
58. Atlanta - Pat Elflein (OG, Ohio State)
59. Seattle - Lowell Lotulelei (DT, Utah)
60. NY Giants - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
61. Kansas City - Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
62. Oakland - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
63. New England - Jake Butt (TE, Michigan)
64. Dallas - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
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Post#65 » by tundraknight » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:10 pm

One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.
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Post#66 » by Cammo101 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:55 pm

tundraknight wrote:One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.


I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.
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Post#67 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:15 pm

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tundraknight wrote:One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.


I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.


Pretty sure u can argue Fournette is a top 5 prospect as well in the majority of peoples boards.

As for qbs your correct that this is a piss-poor qb class. Tribusky seems solid but he's of started this year consistently. Watson seems to lose some accuracy on deep balls kinda like teddy Bridgewater. Kizer needs work on pocket presence and reading defenses. There's some good talent when u start going 2-5th round at qb just not high end franchise guys.

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Post#68 » by Cammo101 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:23 pm

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tundraknight wrote:One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.


I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.


Pretty sure u can argue Fournette is a top 5 prospect as well in the majority of peoples boards.

As for qbs your correct that this is a piss-poor qb class. Tribusky seems solid but he's of started this year consistently. Watson seems to lose some accuracy on deep balls kinda like teddy Bridgewater. Kizer needs work on pocket presence and reading defenses. There's some good talent when u start going 2-5th round at qb just not high end franchise guys.

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I'd argue that none of the QBs are close to being on Carson Wentz's level from last year. Kizer has the tools to be a big time QB, but he's really raw. Trubisky has the highest floor, but I don't see anything more than a middle of the road starter at best. Watson is the big mystery, because I just don't know how his game translates to the NFL level. One thing I do know, is I wouldn't touch any of the 3 with a top 10 picks.
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Post#69 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:29 pm

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I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.


Pretty sure u can argue Fournette is a top 5 prospect as well in the majority of peoples boards.

As for qbs your correct that this is a piss-poor qb class. Tribusky seems solid but he's of started this year consistently. Watson seems to lose some accuracy on deep balls kinda like teddy Bridgewater. Kizer needs work on pocket presence and reading defenses. There's some good talent when u start going 2-5th round at qb just not high end franchise guys.

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I'd argue that none of the QBs are close to being on Carson Wentz's level from last year. Kizer has the tools to be a big time QB, but he's really raw. Trubisky has the highest floor, but I don't see anything more than a middle of the road starter at best. Watson is the big mystery, because I just don't know how his game translates to the NFL level. One thing I do know, is I wouldn't touch any of the 3 with a top 10 picks.

Btw your draft order is slightly off. Jags should be picking 3rd based on the 1st tiebreaker which is strength of schedule

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Post#70 » by Cammo101 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:05 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:Btw your draft order is slightly off. Jags should be picking 3rd based on the 1st tiebreaker which is strength of schedule

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Until the season is over, I take the standings and break ties by who I think is worse or less hot. I'm sure there are many other spots where it isn't correct based on tiebreakers. It will sort itself out.
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Post#71 » by Cammo101 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:52 pm

11/30/16 (2018 Big Board)

1. Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville)
2. Arden Key (DE, LSU)
3. Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
4. Josh Rosen (QB, UCLA)
5. Calvin Ridley (WR, Alabama)
6. Derwin James (SS, Florida State)
7. Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
8. Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
9. Minkah Fitzpatrick (CB, Alabama)
10. Jake Browning (QB, Washington)
11. Sam Darnold (QB, USC)
12. Christian Kirk (WR, Texas A&M)
13. Sam Hubbard (DE, Ohio State)
14. Christian Wilkins (DT, Clemson)
15. Saquon Barkley (RB, Penn State)
16. TJ Watt (OLB, Wisconsin)
17. Tyquan Lewis (DE, Ohio State)
18. Noah Brown (WR, Ohio State)
19. Kevin Tolliver II (CB, LSU)
20. Orlando Brown (OT, Oklahoma)
21. Malik Jefferson (OLB, Texas)
22. Billy Price (OG, Ohio State)
23. Derrius Guice (RB, LSU)
24. Mitch Hyatt (OT, Clemson)
25. Tavarus McFadden (CB, Florida State)
26. Byron Cowart (DE, Auburn)
27. Martez Ivey (OG, Florida)
28. Josh Sweat (DE, Florida State)
29. Jordan Thomas (CB, Oklahoma)
30. Cameron Smith (ILB, USC)
31. Jordan Whitehead (FS, Pittsburgh)
32. Toby Weathersby (OT, LSU)
33. Iman Marshall (CB, USC)
34. Deon Cain (WR, Clemson)
35. Trenton Thompson (DT, Georgia)
36. Travis Rudolph (WR, Florida State)
37. CeCe Jefferson (DE, Florida)
38. Terry Beckner Jr. (DT, Missouri)
39. Daylon Mack (DT, Texas A&M)
40. Da'Ron Payne (DT, Alabama)
41. Natrez Patrick (ILB, Georgia)
42. Kahlil McKenzie (DT, Tennessee)
43. Geron Christian (OT, Louisville)
44. Ross Pierschbacher (OG, Alabama)
45. Porter Gustin (OLB, USC)
46. Ronnie Harrison (FS, Alabama)
47. Myles Gaskin (RB, Washington)
48. David Njoku (TE, Miami)
49. Mason Cole (OC, Michigan)
50. Jaire Alexander (CB, Louisville)
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Post#72 » by tundraknight » Sat Dec 3, 2016 12:57 am

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tundraknight wrote:One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.


I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.


Yeah, that's why I think it would be foolish for the Browns for example, to take a QB with the 1st overall pick, when they all look to be worse than Wentz was when they passed up on him last draft.

They have the most draft picks so they should take advantage of picking the best player available with each pick instead of position of need. Since nearly every position could be upgraded anyway with that terrible team.

Also since they own the Eagles pick which keeps becoming a better pick (I think it's around 13th overall ATM) they could just see if one of those 3 QBs falls to that spot and take someone like Garret with the 1st.
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Post#73 » by Cammo101 » Mon Dec 5, 2016 6:33 am

tundraknight wrote:
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tundraknight wrote:One thing I noticed in this upcoming draft is that there isn't a sure fire #1 stud, or even a top 3, as most NFL mocks I've seen are all different with the top picks order.


I think Garrett, Allen, and Peppers are pretty solidly in most people's top 5 prospects in this draft. What complicates everything is the desperate need for QBs pushing lesser QB prospects up into the top 5 where they really don't belong.


Yeah, that's why I think it would be foolish for the Browns for example, to take a QB with the 1st overall pick, when they all look to be worse than Wentz was when they passed up on him last draft.

They have the most draft picks so they should take advantage of picking the best player available with each pick instead of position of need. Since nearly every position could be upgraded anyway with that terrible team.

Also since they own the Eagles pick which keeps becoming a better pick (I think it's around 13th overall ATM) they could just see if one of those 3 QBs falls to that spot and take someone like Garret with the 1st.


I totally agree that not taking a QB at #1 is the smarter move, but they are said to be really high on Trubisky and likely to take him #1. Though there is still a lot of time before the the draft for them to change their minds.
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Post#74 » by Cammo101 » Mon Dec 5, 2016 7:16 am

12/5/16

1. Cleveland - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
2. San Francisco - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
3. Jacksonville - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
4. Chicago - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
5. NY Jets - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
6. Tennessee (from LA) - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
7. Carolina - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
8. Cincinnati - Malik Hooker (FS, Ohio State)
9. New Orleans - Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
10. Cleveland (from PHI) - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
11. San Diego - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
12. Indianapolis - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
13. Arizona - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
14. Buffalo - Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
15. Houston - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
16. Philadelphia (from MIN) - John Ross (WR, Washington)
17. Tennessee - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
18. Green Bay - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
19. Washington - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
20. Miami - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
21. Tampa Bay - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
22. Baltimore - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
23. Atlanta - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
24. Pittsburgh - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
25. Detroit - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
26. Denver - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
27. NY Giants - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
28. Seattle - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
29. Kansas City - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
30. Oakland - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
31. New England - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
32. Dallas - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)

33. Cleveland - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
34. San Francisco - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
35. Jacksonville - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
36. Chicago - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
37. NY Jets - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
38. Los Angeles - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
39. Carolina - Pat Elflein (OG, Ohio State)
40. Cincinnati - Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
41. New Orleans - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
42. Philadelphia - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
43. San Diego - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
44. Indianapolis - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
45. Arizona - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
46. Buffalo - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
47. Houston - Lowell Lotulelei (DT, Utah)
48. Minnesota - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
49. Cleveland (from TEN) - Chris Wormley (DE, Michigan)
50. Green Bay - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
51. Washington - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
52. Miami - Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
53. Tampa Bay - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
54. Baltimore - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
55. Atlanta - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
56. Pittsburgh - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
57. Detroit - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
58. Denver - Jaleel Johnson (DT, Iowa)
59. NY Giants - Jake Butt (TE, Michigan)
60. Seattle - Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)
61. Kansas City - Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
62. Oakland - Marquis Haynes (DE, Ole Miss)
63. New England - Malachi Dupre (WR, LSU)
64. Dallas - Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
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Post#75 » by Cammo101 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:56 pm

12/12/16

1. Cleveland - Mitch Trubisky (QB, North Carolina)
2. San Francisco - Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M)
3. Jacksonville - Jonathan Allen (DE, Alabama)
4. Chicago - DeShone Kizer (QB, Notre Dame)
5. Tennessee (from LA) - Teez Tabor (CB, Florida)
6. NY Jets - Jabrill Peppers (SS, Michigan)
7. San Diego - Jamal Adams (SS, LSU)
8. Cleveland (from PHI) - Cameron Robinson (OT, Alabama)
9. New Orleans - Marlon Humphrey (CB, Alabama)
10. Carolina - Leonard Fournette (RB, LSU)
11. Cincinnati - Derek Barnett (DE, Tennessee)
12. Arizona - Deshaun Watson (QB, Clemson)
13. Buffalo - Quincy Wilson (CB, Florida)
14. Indianapolis - Reuben Foster (ILB, Alabama)
15. Philadelphia (from MIN) - Marshon Lattimore (CB, Ohio State)
16. Houston - Malik McDowell (DT, Michigan State)
17. Tennessee - Mike Williams (WR, Clemson)
18. Green Bay - Dalvin Cook (RB, Florida State)
19. Washington - Adoree Jackson (CB, USC)
20. Baltimore - Tim Williams (OLB, Alabama)
21. Miami - Desmond King (CB, Iowa)
22. Tampa Bay - John Ross (WR, Washington)
23. Denver - Zach Cunningham (ILB, Vanderbilt)
24. Atlanta - Charles Harris (DE, Missouri)
25. Pittsburgh - Taco Charlton (DE, Michigan)
26. Seattle - Corey Davis (WR, Western Michigan)
27. Detroit - DeMarcus Walker (DE, Florida State)
28. NY Giants - Carl Lawson (DE, Auburn)
20. Oakland - Christian McCaffrey (RB, Stanford)
30. Kansas City - Sidney Jones (CB, Washington)
31. New England - Solomon Thomas (DE, Stanford)
32. Dallas - OJ Howard (TE, Alabama)

33. Cleveland - JuJu Smith-Schuster (WR, USC)
34. San Francisco - Pat Mahomes (QB, Texas Tech)
35. Jacksonville - Ryan Ramczyk (OT, Wisconsin)
36. Chicago - Bucky Hodges (TE, Virginia Tech)
37. Los Angeles - Ethan Pocic (OG, LSU)
38. NY Jets - Gareon Conley (CB, Ohio State)
39. San Diego - Curtis Samuel (WR, Ohio State)
40. Philadelphia - Dede Westbrook (WR, Oklahoma)
41. New Orleans - Caleb Brantley (DT, Florida)
42. Carolina - Jourdan Lewis (CB, Michigan)
43. Cincinnati - Justin Evans (SS, Texas A&M)
44. Arizona - Cordrea Tankersley (CB, Clemson)
45. Buffalo - Brad Kaaya (QB, Miami)
46. Indianapolis - D'Onte Foreman (RB, Texas)
47. Minnesota - Roderick Johnson (OT, Florida State)
48. Houston - Takkarist McKinley (DE, UCLA)
49. Cleveland (from TEN) - Dawuane Smoot (DE, Illinois)
50. Green Bay - Dan Feeney (OG, Indiana)
51. Washington - Raekwon McMillan (ILB, Ohio State)
52. Baltimore - Marcus Maye (FS, Florida)
53. Miami - Evan Engram (TE, Ole Miss)
54. Tampa Bay - Pat Elflein (OG, Ohio State)
55. Denver - Quinton Nelson (OG, Notre Dame)
56. Atlanta - Tre'Davious White (CB, LSU)
57. Pittsburgh - Jarrad Davis (OLB, Florida)
58. Seattle - Chris Wormley (DE, Michigan)
59. Detroit - Budda Baker (SS, Washington)
60. NY Giants - Jake Butt (TE, Michigan)
61. Oakland - Marquis Haynes (DE, Ole Miss)
62. Kansas City - Lowell Lotulelei (DT, Utah)
63. New England - Anthony Walker (ILB, Northwestern)
64. Dallas - Marcus Williams (FS, Utah)
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Post#76 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:36 pm

I guess I can be happy with Jonathan Allen and ram

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Post#77 » by Goober » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:23 am

I really want Peppers on the Niners, I don't know how plausible that is
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Post#78 » by Arda K » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:05 am

Cammo101 wrote:11/30/16 (2018 Big Board)

1. Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville)

he will not be a qb in pros
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Post#79 » by studcrackers » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:15 am

havent seen that anywhere
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Post#80 » by Cammo101 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:24 pm

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Cammo101 wrote:11/30/16 (2018 Big Board)

1. Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville)

he will not be a qb in pros


Of course he will. He has a cannon for an arm. He's a more accurate passer and far more electric runner than De'Shaun Watson, who will go in the first round this year.

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