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ILOVEIT wrote:The blueprint was small ball before other teams caught on.

Other teams have now caught on.

In addition, Warriors now face inability to sign impactful vets.

The REAL secret sauce is signing title hunting impactful vets. When they don't have them, they lose.

WarriorGM wrote:During the Dubs championship years, they had a proven blueprint for success if you look at their roster construction.

You had Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Then you had Harrison Barnes and Andrew Bogut or Barnes and Iguodala. They were so lethal they were called the Death Lineup.

Then you had the years with KD and they were just overwhelming.

EvanZ wrote:

WarriorGM wrote:During the Dubs championship years, they had a proven blueprint for success if you look at their roster construction.

You had Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Then you had Harrison Barnes and Andrew Bogut or Barnes and Iguodala. They were so lethal they were called the Death Lineup.

Then you had the years with KD and they were just overwhelming.

You had Steph, Klay, and Draymond on rookie contracts once upon a time. Or at least, you had Klay and Draymond on rookie deals and Steph on arguably the best contract of all time. Then you had a once in a lifetime cap increase that enabled them to snag KD.

Why haven't they repeated this "blueprint"? Just do the math.

Old_Blue wrote:My sense is that the Lacobs started meddling to a great degree in the process of roster construction, to the chagrin and eventual departure of Myers. Joe Lacob is on record as saying that Wiseman was his #1 and calling him a "once in a decade kind of guy."

SpreeChokeJob wrote:The people who built the team are gone. The remaining have demonstrated lack of judgment or the inability to change their ways. They don’t have anyone with a proven track record to make the calls to bring this team back. Instead of searching for a great candidate, they chose Dunleavy which seems like a weird hire. What has he done to warrant such a leap? He doesn’t have anything major to hang on his belt that said I accomplished this.

BayAreaDub wrote:

SpreeChokeJob wrote:The people who built the team are gone. The remaining have demonstrated lack of judgment or the inability to change their ways. They don’t have anyone with a proven track record to make the calls to bring this team back. Instead of searching for a great candidate, they chose Dunleavy which seems like a weird hire. What has he done to warrant such a leap? He doesn’t have anything major to hang on his belt that said I accomplished this.

It's what's below Mike's belt that makes him the ideal candidate

WarriorGM wrote:During the Dubs championship years, they had a proven blueprint for success if you look at their roster construction.

You had Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Then you had Harrison Barnes and Andrew Bogut or Barnes and Iguodala. They were so lethal they were called the Death Lineup.

Then you had the years with KD and they were just overwhelming.

But then after KD left the team rebuilt and found success with a lineup of Steph, Klay and Draymond with the addition of Wiggins and Looney or in the finals against the Celtics Otto Porter Jr. in place of Looney.

Now compare the above lineups to the main lineups the Dubs were trotting out in the playoffs this year. Does anything stick out to anyone else? In place of Looney or Porter Jr. the Dubs were putting in JaMychal Green and GPII against the Lakers. Did anyone really think that would be an improvement?

In hindsight I would say the JaMychal Green signing was pretty fatal for the team's chances this year because he was ineffective as a substitute for Looney in that lineup. Wiseman was a distraction. Kuminga or Lamb had to fill in but they were either unready or Kerr wouldn't play them. GPII was simply out of place and Donte unfortunately looked better than he really was. That's 5 players that couldn't really fill in that the team desperately needed to fill the hole.

WarriorGM wrote:I'm bumping this because I still find myself asking the question over and over this year.

If Klay cannot be a starter anymore the lineup the blueprint suggests the current Warriors need to develop is Steph, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga, and Moody.

The above lineup makes the most sense from a two timelines and drafting perspective too. Kuminga and Moody are currently the highest drafted of the younger players which indicates they probably are the ones with the most potential.

The current reliance on Podz seems less than optimal in this framework. Chris Paul does not look like the answer either. That Quinones is getting more minutes than Moody is baffling.

Using this viewpoint Kerr is an inescapable problem. The attempt to get Klay and Wiggins back to their old selves was understandable but the other recent moves aren't.

killmongrel wrote:

WarriorGM wrote:I'm bumping this because I still find myself asking the question over and over this year.

If Klay cannot be a starter anymore the lineup the blueprint suggests the current Warriors need to develop is Steph, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga, and Moody.

The above lineup makes the most sense from a two timelines and drafting perspective too. Kuminga and Moody are currently the highest drafted of the younger players which indicates they probably are the ones with the most potential.

The current reliance on Podz seems less than optimal in this framework. Chris Paul does not look like the answer either. That Quinones is getting more minutes than Moody is baffling.

Using this viewpoint Kerr is an inescapable problem. The attempt to get Klay and Wiggins back to their old selves was understandable but the other recent moves aren't.

To me, the current answer is, at minimum, get an upgrade over everybody that is not named Steph/Wiggins/Kuminga/Draymond. That's not happening this season. So it's an off season plan. As is, this is not a contending team. But at least they have the assets to make the roster better.

WarriorGM wrote:

killmongrel wrote:

WarriorGM wrote:I'm bumping this because I still find myself asking the question over and over this year.

If Klay cannot be a starter anymore the lineup the blueprint suggests the current Warriors need to develop is Steph, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga, and Moody.

The above lineup makes the most sense from a two timelines and drafting perspective too. Kuminga and Moody are currently the highest drafted of the younger players which indicates they probably are the ones with the most potential.

The current reliance on Podz seems less than optimal in this framework. Chris Paul does not look like the answer either. That Quinones is getting more minutes than Moody is baffling.

Using this viewpoint Kerr is an inescapable problem. The attempt to get Klay and Wiggins back to their old selves was understandable but the other recent moves aren't.

To me, the current answer is, at minimum, get an upgrade over everybody that is not named Steph/Wiggins/Kuminga/Draymond. That's not happening this season. So it's an off season plan. As is, this is not a contending team. But at least they have the assets to make the roster better.

Moody was perfectly playable in the playoffs last year. There is no real reason to think he shouldn't be this year too especially with more experience playing in the regular season which he is mystifyingly not getting.

killmongrel wrote:

WarriorGM wrote:

killmongrel wrote:
To me, the current answer is, at minimum, get an upgrade over everybody that is not named Steph/Wiggins/Kuminga/Draymond. That's not happening this season. So it's an off season plan. As is, this is not a contending team. But at least they have the assets to make the roster better.

Moody was perfectly playable in the playoffs last year. There is no real reason to think he shouldn't be this year too especially with more experience playing in the regular season which he is mystifyingly not getting.

For whatever reason, Kerr just doesn't like him. So this off season, if there isn't a big fish to trade for, build around the proven guys that are both starters and closers.

EvanZ wrote:I just don't get Quinones getting minutes over Moody. He's just not that good. I honestly think he's not an NBA player and he'll end up in New Zealand like Lamb. Just makes all this seem super weird to me.

EvanZ wrote:I just don't get Quinones getting minutes over Moody. He's just not that good. I honestly think he's not an NBA player and he'll end up in New Zealand like Lamb. Just makes all this seem super weird to me.

watch1958 wrote:

EvanZ wrote:I just don't get Quinones getting minutes over Moody. He's just not that good. I honestly think he's not an NBA player and he'll end up in New Zealand like Lamb. Just makes all this seem super weird to me.

Quinones isn't competing for contract dollars with Klay this off season. Also, Kerr isn't really about the team having the best chance to win. He wants Steph and Klay and Draymond to have the best chance to win doing it their way.