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turk3d wrote:Let's just discard another rookie or 2nd year man taking up the 14th or 15th roster spot in his first or 2nd year like we normally do. We basically didn't even need to use a draft pick, how come other teams have "projects" and we're not allowed to? He must be really screwing up our roster. We should just dump him and pick us someone else to not play.

FireNellieQuick wrote:Blah blah blah

I'm just glad the rest of the board is wise to it... it really derails intelligent discussion, which used to be really prominent here.

Mylie10 wrote:
First of all kiddo...you said that's what every guy who shuttles back and forth does...that's point one and youre wrong.

Second of all I was posting those numbers based on the fact that some said he couldn't shoot from outside...I made that point and I've seen him play more than they had....that's point 2.

And you cherry picked a couple of guys, who by the way none of them averaged the same and grabbed as many rebounds. Also Dentmon doesn't rebound and is only averaging 17 points a game this season, because you used last years stats....which is fine.

The overall point is this....he was brought in because hes an all league defender....But what they have found out is that he is much more than that. So they are keeping him around and Jackson is finding spots for him, because they realize that the kid is more than a shuttle to both leagues. They are in position to take a tax hit over the guy.

So I'll trust what I've seen, and what I'm seeing with the Warriors and the brass over the kid. You go ahead and brush talent under the rug.

By the way I'm not advocating him taking anyones job right now, or even a role other than occasional spot minutes to defend. So don't make it sound like I'm pushing him for the All Star team.

Souvlaki wrote:
You care way too much what other people think. Reality check. No one gives a $&@# what you post on the interwebs.

FireNellieQuick wrote:

turk3d wrote:Let's just discard another rookie or 2nd year man taking up the 14th or 15th roster spot in his first or 2nd year like we normally do. We basically didn't even need to use a draft pick, how come other teams have "projects" and we're not allowed to? He must be really screwing up our roster. We should just dump him and pick us someone else to not play.

Once again, you've successfully argued a point that no one's made.

runtmc91 wrote:Also, labeling Bazemore an all-league defender is ridiculous. He has defensive potential, but he's not a good NBA defender at this point, let alone all-league.

Souvlaki wrote:

Mylie10 wrote:
First of all kiddo...you said that's what every guy who shuttles back and forth does...that's point one and youre wrong.

Second of all I was posting those numbers based on the fact that some said he couldn't shoot from outside...I made that point and I've seen him play more than they had....that's point 2.

And you cherry picked a couple of guys, who by the way none of them averaged the same and grabbed as many rebounds. Also Dentmon doesn't rebound and is only averaging 17 points a game this season, because you used last years stats....which is fine.

The overall point is this....he was brought in because hes an all league defender....But what they have found out is that he is much more than that. So they are keeping him around and Jackson is finding spots for him, because they realize that the kid is more than a shuttle to both leagues. They are in position to take a tax hit over the guy.

So I'll trust what I've seen, and what I'm seeing with the Warriors and the brass over the kid. You go ahead and brush talent under the rug.

By the way I'm not advocating him taking anyones job right now, or even a role other than occasional spot minutes to defend. So don't make it sound like I'm pushing him for the All Star team.

I think Lucky makes some valid points, otherwise we'd see a lot more D-League all stars in the NBA, and we don't, at least not on good teams.

Bazemore has played well in garbage time, I'll grant you that. The guy is a decent player for what he is. But what you are advocating makes no sense. As it is now, Barnes doesn't get enough playing time or touches. And Bazemore will only serve to feed Mark Jackass' desire to go small even more. No thanks.

2011-12:Repeat selection as CAA Defensive Player of the Year...First team All-CAA selection...Career high 37 points vs. Drexel and 28 points at Missouri State...ODU's 20th all-time scorer with 1416 career points...ODU's second all-time steals leader with 250...140 career games played is a new ODU record... 27 points and 12 rebounds at Delaware & Drexel...Two-time CAA Player of the Week...Pre-Season All-CAA and CAA Player of the Year...Pre-Season Collegeinsider.com All-American....Named to HOF Tip-Off All-Tournament squad...Seven steals vs. South Florida...Hit 12 of 14 free throws vs. South Florida...20 points at Richmond...8 rebounds vs. Richmond and VMI...Became the 48th Monarch to reach 1,000 career points (vs. Richmond)...Played 37 minutes vs. Richmond...Hit late baskets at Richmond and JMU to send games into overtime...3-4 from three at JMU...One of four MOnarchs with over 200 career steals....

Mylie10 wrote:No....I didn't say they were irrlevant...merely different than your statements that every guy who shuttles back and forth puts up those numbers...that's my point so stick to it.

My main point will be repeated again....He's in the league because of his defense, but they are intrigued because he can do much more than they realized....he opened their eyes in Summer League and he's continued to impress them in preseason, the d league, and especially in practice.

You are the one who basically rendered all d league stats as irrelevant...I was merely pointing out to others with some proof that he could actually shoot some.

Shall I throw you a life raft?

oaklandwarriors wrote:Anyone else notice that the Clippers rarely dunk against the Warriors? They didn't throw many lobs at all during the series and Griffin didn't have many dunks. Against the Thunder they are dunking it a lot more than I can ever remember against the Warriors.

oaklandwarriors wrote:Yeah now that I think about it that's true. I think there's a correlation between dunks and momentum with the Clippers. You stop the dunks and they become less fired up. Just a random observation, but I notice all their highlight plays lead to runs. In the one game Warriors lost they got dunks early and rode the wave.