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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#281 » by whocurrz » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:36 pm

timlin500 wrote:MIssed teh game. How did Klay and Curry get to the line so much? Have they really improved on that or was it more so the refs calling a ton of fouls?


Refs were calling a ton of fouls. Klay was getting into the lane and pretty easily and I like the aggression but there were times he was a bit out of control and got bailed out. And when he wasn't fouled he wasn't converting in the lane. I actually would have preferred more plays to get him open jump shots because his mid range was fine even though his 3 ball was off. He should attack the basket but I'd still like to see plays run to open up his mid range because he'll face better perimeter defenders and refs who won't be as whistle happy in the future. Glad he took advantage of it last night though.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#282 » by Muggsy Bogues » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:37 pm

timlin500 wrote:MIssed teh game. How did Klay and Curry get to the line so much? Have they really improved on that or was it more so the refs calling a ton of fouls?


Both.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#283 » by GSWhoopfan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:26 pm

Klay got FTs I don't care if the refs blow calls he still got them and they still count. I wouldn't say he was getting in the deep in the lane but he was getting one step on the defense but would only use one dribble and then kick out. I guess it's improvement but it's minimal there. Would have been nice for him to take advatange of the rook/Collison switches but oh well. If Klay got into the paint it would be nicer. Iguodala with so far pass of the year to the cutting HB. Thumbs up!

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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#284 » by 510TWSS » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:37 pm

Played solid defense throughout this game I thought. Bogut and Ezeli looked good. Even got an Onion sighting. I wouldn't expect the shooting to be as cold as it was last night however. Klay looks locked in this year. He looks aggressive on the offensive end, but under control. Him pump faking the defender and drawing contact was a thing of beauty last night. Keep it up Klay.
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Post#285 » by skiz2 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:41 pm

Xplatformer wrote:Harrison thinks about ish WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much.

I see him on the bench with Klay and Shawn Livingston talking to him. Barnes has a look on his face like he's carrying the weight of the world and it's too heavy for him. He needs to stop thinking.


UNC fan here. Same problem he had in college. Full of talent, but needs A LOT of help on the psychological part of the game. He forgot to have fun playing ball.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#286 » by turk3d » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:47 pm

510TWSS wrote:Played solid defense throughout this game I thought. Bogut and Ezeli looked good. Even got an Onion sighting. I wouldn't expect the shooting to be as cold as it was last night however. Klay looks locked in this year. He looks aggressive on the offensive end, but under control. Him pump faking the defender and drawing contact was a thing of beauty last night. Keep it up Klay.

Not to mention his 6 dimes which led the team on a 19 assist, 22 turnover night.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#287 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:06 pm

The whole game was very disjointed. Lot of fouls called, players probably too amped on both sides. In the second half when Kerr went smallball was when the Warriors put it away.

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Post#288 » by WESCO » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:50 pm

Watching the game last night my buddy and I were talking about how klay, at many points, looked like a black hole.
every touch he'd pound the rock.

I'm all for klay but he needs to get his within the offense.

Now against the Kings it wasn't enough to push us to a loss but against better teams it won't work.

Go get that $$$ you deserve though klay
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Post#289 » by CCComboBreaker » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:10 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
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turk3d wrote:Yeah, blame it all on Barnes. No one can hit the broad side of a barn tonight except Bogut, Ezeli and Speights. 1-15 on 3s. That's the same problem he's had in the past. Since non one else can make a shot they wind up shoveling it to Barnes who shouldn't be that high of an option.

Reason for the bad shooting overall: Sac's defense (yes they're a much better defensive team and are really trying hard) and missing Lee. He really is important for our offense (which you can see how this game has gone).


David Lee was the reason we made it out of the first round and didn't make it out of the first round the year after. But don't tell these guys that LOGIC is too much to take.


Stop using the word "logic," you're making it look bad.


Please stop using comma's within the quotation marks, you're making grammar look bad.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#290 » by Muggsy Bogues » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:22 am

WESCO wrote:Watching the game last night my buddy and I were talking about how klay, at many points, looked like a black hole.
every touch he'd pound the rock.

I'm all for klay but he needs to get his within the offense.

Now against the Kings it wasn't enough to push us to a loss but against better teams it won't work.

Go get that $$$ you deserve though klay


You realize he led the team in assists, right? The eye test doesn't always work, it seems.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#291 » by Xplatformer » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:58 am

WESCO wrote:Watching the game last night my buddy and I were talking about how klay, at many points, looked like a black hole.
every touch he'd pound the rock.

I'm all for klay but he needs to get his within the offense.

Now against the Kings it wasn't enough to push us to a loss but against better teams it won't work.

Go get that $$$ you deserve though klay


You and I didn't watch the same game. But anyway. It could be argued that Klay had one of his worse games in awhile, yet his defense was solid, he had assist and he got to the free throw line.


Lebron is like 1 of 8 in his first game. Guess he's getting dem checks he deserves too.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#292 » by WESCO » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:07 am

I'm not hating klay at all. In fact I'm one of the minority that thinks he can average more then steph this season

But even if Westbrook leads in assists or getting to the line hes still a black hole.

I forgot to mention , I do realize he led the team in assist
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#293 » by hamncheese » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:55 am

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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Stop using the word "logic," you're making it look bad.


Please stop using comma's within the quotation marks, you're making grammar look bad.


Actually, punctuation within the comma is grammatically correct.

See rule 3a here.

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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#294 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:36 am

hamncheese wrote:
omnificent wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Stop using the word "logic," you're making it look bad.


Please stop using comma's within the quotation marks, you're making grammar look bad.


Actually, punctuation within the comma is grammatically correct.

See rule 3a here.

Rule 3a. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks.

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Reducing your argument to grammar.... and losing.

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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#295 » by jason bourne » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:35 am

skiz2 wrote:
Xplatformer wrote:Harrison thinks about ish WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much.

I see him on the bench with Klay and Shawn Livingston talking to him. Barnes has a look on his face like he's carrying the weight of the world and it's too heavy for him. He needs to stop thinking.


UNC fan here. Same problem he had in college. Full of talent, but needs A LOT of help on the psychological part of the game. He forgot to have fun playing ball.


I lol'd at your reply, but it's serious as Barnes is too much intellect out there. One of the keys in this league is to have a great SF. That makes things easier to win a championship. There aren't too many except for five or six. Ws fans can dream of Kevin Durant.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#296 » by californiadude » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:58 pm

Bare with me because i've only read the past few thread pages but....
I'm seeing a lot of hate for barnes on the offensive end which to me is a little ridiculous. Was I watching the same game as everyone else? Because I dare you to name one player other than Speights who had a "good" offensive game last night. I mean in my opinion we looked atrocious offensively which is a little disturbing since we fired jackson so we could find a coach that had a more robust offensive system. Klay was 4-14, had 5 turnovers and repeatedly disrupted the offense. Steph was 7-17 (2 for 9 in threes) and had 4 turnovers. Iggy was one for six. So since they had bad games in there first professional basketball game in six months should we bench them too? At least barnes was being assertive and fighting for rebounds. He even had a nice up and under and 1.
Seriously guys barnes is a young player who needs time to grow. I am by no means a barnes fan and I don't know how I feel about him in the starting lineup. But can you give him a couple games before you send him off to the guillotine?
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Post#297 » by 510TWSS » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:59 pm

californiadude wrote:Bare with me because i've only read the past few thread pages but....
I'm seeing a lot of hate for barnes on the offensive end which to me is a little ridiculous. Was I watching the same game as everyone else? Because I dare you to name one player other than Speights who had a "good" offensive game last night. I mean in my opinion we looked atrocious offensively which is a little disturbing since we fired jackson so we could find a coach that had a more robust offensive system. Klay was 4-14, had 5 turnovers and repeatedly disrupted the offense. Steph was 7-17 (2 for 9 in threes) and had 4 turnovers. Iggy was one for six. So since they had bad games in there first professional basketball game in six months should we bench them too? At least barnes was being assertive and fighting for rebounds. He even had a nice up and under and 1.
Seriously guys barnes is a young player who needs time to grow. I am by no means a barnes fan and I don't know how I feel about him in the starting lineup. But can you give him a couple games before you send him off to the guillotine?


We're starting his third year. He's not a rookie anymore. Complaints about him by this time in his career are valid. Time to see the improvement on the court. Everyone had an off night offensively. Each of the other guys you mentioned has had previous success in the league. Barnes doesn't have any prior performance to legitimately hang his hat on yet. I hope he improves too.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#298 » by turk3d » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:11 pm

510TWSS wrote:
californiadude wrote:Bare with me because i've only read the past few thread pages but....
I'm seeing a lot of hate for barnes on the offensive end which to me is a little ridiculous. Was I watching the same game as everyone else? Because I dare you to name one player other than Speights who had a "good" offensive game last night. I mean in my opinion we looked atrocious offensively which is a little disturbing since we fired jackson so we could find a coach that had a more robust offensive system. Klay was 4-14, had 5 turnovers and repeatedly disrupted the offense. Steph was 7-17 (2 for 9 in threes) and had 4 turnovers. Iggy was one for six. So since they had bad games in there first professional basketball game in six months should we bench them too? At least barnes was being assertive and fighting for rebounds. He even had a nice up and under and 1.
Seriously guys barnes is a young player who needs time to grow. I am by no means a barnes fan and I don't know how I feel about him in the starting lineup. But can you give him a couple games before you send him off to the guillotine?


We're starting his third year. He's not a rookie anymore. Complaints about him by this time in his career are valid. Time to see the improvement on the court. Everyone had an off night offensively. Each of the other guys you mentioned has had previous success in the league. Barnes doesn't have any prior performance to legitimately hang his hat on yet. I hope he improves too.

510, maybe no where near as many as the other players mentioned, but how can you discount completely what he did in the San Antonio series a few years ago. A bit unfair which is what I think CaliforniaDude is suggesting.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#299 » by californiadude » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:27 pm

510TWSS wrote:
californiadude wrote:Bare with me because i've only read the past few thread pages but....
I'm seeing a lot of hate for barnes on the offensive end which to me is a little ridiculous. Was I watching the same game as everyone else? Because I dare you to name one player other than Speights who had a "good" offensive game last night. I mean in my opinion we looked atrocious offensively which is a little disturbing since we fired jackson so we could find a coach that had a more robust offensive system. Klay was 4-14, had 5 turnovers and repeatedly disrupted the offense. Steph was 7-17 (2 for 9 in threes) and had 4 turnovers. Iggy was one for six. So since they had bad games in there first professional basketball game in six months should we bench them too? At least barnes was being assertive and fighting for rebounds. He even had a nice up and under and 1.
Seriously guys barnes is a young player who needs time to grow. I am by no means a barnes fan and I don't know how I feel about him in the starting lineup. But can you give him a couple games before you send him off to the guillotine?


We're starting his third year. He's not a rookie anymore. Complaints about him by this time in his career are valid. Time to see the improvement on the court. Everyone had an off night offensively. Each of the other guys you mentioned has had previous success in the league. Barnes doesn't have any prior performance to legitimately hang his hat on yet. I hope he improves too.

Barnes is one year older than Klay was in his rookie season. He still younger than guys like gorden Hayward. I've said this before but I'm just not ready to give up on barnes yet. I agree that so far he hasn't shown much promise but like turk said you can't deny what he did to the spurs and nuggets. He shows flashes at times just like he did last night. I think we should give him 20 games before we form a surefire opinion about him.
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Re: GT: Opening Night, Warriors VS Kings (7:00pm PST) 

Post#300 » by Onus » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:01 pm

californiadude wrote:
510TWSS wrote:
californiadude wrote:Bare with me because i've only read the past few thread pages but....
I'm seeing a lot of hate for barnes on the offensive end which to me is a little ridiculous. Was I watching the same game as everyone else? Because I dare you to name one player other than Speights who had a "good" offensive game last night. I mean in my opinion we looked atrocious offensively which is a little disturbing since we fired jackson so we could find a coach that had a more robust offensive system. Klay was 4-14, had 5 turnovers and repeatedly disrupted the offense. Steph was 7-17 (2 for 9 in threes) and had 4 turnovers. Iggy was one for six. So since they had bad games in there first professional basketball game in six months should we bench them too? At least barnes was being assertive and fighting for rebounds. He even had a nice up and under and 1.
Seriously guys barnes is a young player who needs time to grow. I am by no means a barnes fan and I don't know how I feel about him in the starting lineup. But can you give him a couple games before you send him off to the guillotine?


We're starting his third year. He's not a rookie anymore. Complaints about him by this time in his career are valid. Time to see the improvement on the court. Everyone had an off night offensively. Each of the other guys you mentioned has had previous success in the league. Barnes doesn't have any prior performance to legitimately hang his hat on yet. I hope he improves too.

Barnes is one year older than Klay was in his rookie season. He still younger than guys like gorden Hayward. I've said this before but I'm just not ready to give up on barnes yet. I agree that so far he hasn't shown much promise but like turk said you can't deny what he did to the spurs and nuggets. He shows flashes at times just like he did last night. I think we should give him 20 games before we form a surefire opinion about him.


It's really not age that determines one's viability in the league, historically years in the league is a much better factor. The third year is huge in determining one's prospects in the league. If he doesn't get it by this year then he's going up against historical evidence and he will be an outlier, which means it's possible he becomes good but highly unlikely.
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