As I said before, im pretty sure that if Looney went undrafted or was a second round pick, nobody would give him a second thought, let alone give him a roster-spot. So why look at him any different because of his guaranteed contract?
Maybe some wouldn't notice, but who cares? Regardless, he happens to be our pick, having a guaranteed contract, so you're really wondering why he gets more attention? Also, his summer league performances might not be particularly impressive but people looking at his skills and age - and they see some good things. Maybe he can build on that, maybe not. But it's really weird to criticize fans for having a closer look at such a guy.[/quote]
Im not critizing ppl for taking a closer look, im critizing that people say he is a good prospect because we draftet him 30, and not becasue of his play. And as a result, I believe nobody would see it the same way if he was just an invitee.
Indeed, we don't need to hype him. If you believe stating positive aspects about his game, character or chances to develop is hyping that's your problem. But I'm not sure many would agree with you because they know what hyping players looks like in reality.
Stating positives of someones game is cool and all, but leaving out the bad stuff goes into the direction of hyping a player and not being objective.
But great that you mentioned that he's 'only' our 30th pick. Because it's pretty ironic that this was my - and some other poster's - reaction to your tirade about this pick. People stated that he has some nice tools but is a long-term project who might not pan out but that this is normal for the 30th pick. But you acted like we passed up on dozens of potentially high-impact players.
Precisely why I said what I said. Whats the deal, 30 Pick so it doesn't matter if he is a bust... But hey, if I write something bad, how dare I? He is our 30th Pick after all. Thats how it comes across, but its no biggie.
First of all, if the docs give the green lights to play through it who are you to judge what's best for him? Secondly, of course pain can be an explanation for certain shortcomings of a player in the games he deals with it and I don't see any reason to not take this into account when talking about a player's potential and abilities. Quite the contrary, it actually has to be considered if it does affect him unless it won't get any better for the rest of his career. In case you doubt any improvement or don't believe in recovery so be it, but you should not blame others for mentioning it. You're demonstrating a strange point of view here.
You completely ignore what im saying. If the docs clear him, he is obviously healthy enough to play his game. If that game sucks, its weird to bring up that he is injured and might not perform well.
The point is, if this is something that Looney can't get rid of, we cant look at this as a temporary thing holding him back, but something that came with him and will stay with him and therefore influence him as a player. Obviously, I would think that if the docs clear him, his injury cant be of an extent that the body needs to be "repaired", but rather like a nasty side effect. "Degenerate Back" was often mentioned, perhaps it is something long term that can be solved by operation. And if thats the reason he slipped, then its something the warriors need to accept. Its something that comes with Looney and therefore is "part of his game" if you will. Obviously, there has not been much info about his health, but saying his pain is holding him back is trivial if he will have that pain for the rest of his career.
Well, "lottery talent at 30" is mainly based on projections before the draft - he fell due to injury, most likely. So this statement isn't inherently wrong even though you yourself don't see the talent which is fine. Mentioning upside when it comes to young player is like the most common thing in sports, this really bothers you? Seriously? Unfounded and empty praise can be annoying, that's what we can agree on, but that's not happening here. Most users present their reasoning and expand on why they believe in his potential upside and it's only natural that the tenor on a fan-board is usually a little more optimistic in a topic about own players. Again, I can't understand how someone can be bothered by this. The same holds true for well-argued criticism - even if I don't agree with it - by the way, but I don't see it in this case.
Well, I guess it lies in the eye of the beholder. I guess what you write about the board is true, my argument goes back to the idea that if hes not a first round pick, people might be more objective and critical.
