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I know, it's jumping the gun a bit here, but one can wonder. They share similar qualities (Defense, willingness to pass/share the ball, and rebound), but TJD has big shoes to fill as Green has the upper-hand seeing he's been the anchor in those categories.

I do see that TJD has the knack to find others, rebound at a moderately good rate, and can stay with his man, defensively. If only Kerr can see a 4-year college player with polished skills can do wonders for the team looking for answers at their position of need. Give him more minutes/reps in real, meaningful games to see what he's about as the 57th pick.

No. They are very different players.


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Trayce is firmly a C in our system, can't see him as a Dray replacement. We need to give TJD a lot of minutes though, he's definitely part of our future.

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:I know, it's jumping the gun a bit here, but one can wonder. They share similar qualities (Defense, willingness to pass/share the ball, and rebound), but TJD has big shoes to fill as Green has the upper-hand seeing he's been the anchor in those categories.

I do see that TJD has the knack to find others, rebound at a moderately good rate, and can stay with his man, defensively. If only Kerr can see a 4-year college player with polished skills can do wonders for the team looking for answers at their position of need. Give him more minutes/reps in real, meaningful games to see what he's about as the 57th pick.

I'll be in the minority on this, but yeah, with one caveat.

He's a smart and mature kid, and he averaged 4 assists in his last year in college. That's pretty amazing for a college big. He still has room to improve his game, but even if it's only on the BBIQ, that would be fine. IF (and here's the caveat) the Dubs can put a center next to him who has some range and is not clogging the lane.

I've loved this incredible run, but it's time to make some moves while the pieces still have some value. Klay, Wiggins, Kuminga, CP3, Moody. And Green.

Can Trayce shoot the ball?

At this point, he's replacing Looney in the starting lineup for me. Kevon is toast, barely an NBA player now. It's very obvious to me to start Trayce to have that inside presense with verticality. He's a good screen setter and will only get better witht he starters.

Alas, it won't happen though.

Looney needs some rest. His ironman performance the last 2 years is taking its toll. I would start Looney for a short stint to keep the offense continuity together for the start of the game. You can sub him for either Saric or TJD depending on the matchup.

The pairing of Saric, TJD and Paul intrigues me and would like to see them at the start of the 2nd quarter and end of the third.

I say start him at PF and see what happens. He has the playmaking and screening skills to play in this system. He's a much better finisher than Draymonds, too.

He's not Draymond, but he doesn't have to be. He can be a lot better than Draymond in several ways. Having a big that can finish inside should take a lot of pressure off of Klay and Curry.

lol cmon cant we have one young player we dont ruin with crazy expectations?

More like Looney's replacement.

Right now he's the 2020 Marquese Chriss replacement. Playing almost identical in terms of role and statistics, but instead of filling in for a hurt Looney, Trayce is potentially filling in for a struggling Looney.

It took Kerr this long to "discover" TJD when people on this board have been screaming for him to get minutes all season. Next, they'll say what a genius Kerr is for making this amazing discovery. Sheeesh!

I find it hard to see TJD getting regular rotation minutes. He played amazing against the pels and then dnps. He played amazing last night, I expect more DNPs unless someone gets hurt or has foul trouble.

Onus wrote:I find it hard to see TJD getting regular rotation minutes. He played amazing against the pels and then dnps. He played amazing last night, I expect more DNPs unless someone gets hurt or has foul trouble.

Kerr himself said his minutes were due to Saric foul trouble, even though he'd like to play Trayce every night. So, it really comes down to Loon/Saric playing bad and/or being in foul trouble. Or, one of the G/F minutes needs to get pinched so Saric can shift to more PF minutes... and the obvious person for that is CP3. I just don't see Kerr doing that 2nd part, so we may just see alot of center by committee with all 3 getting in the 10-20 minute range.

TB wrote:

Onus wrote:I find it hard to see TJD getting regular rotation minutes. He played amazing against the pels and then dnps. He played amazing last night, I expect more DNPs unless someone gets hurt or has foul trouble.

Kerr himself said his minutes were due to Saric foul trouble, even though he'd like to play Trayce every night. So, it really comes down to Loon/Saric playing bad and/or being in foul trouble. Or, one of the G/F minutes needs to get pinched so Saric can shift to more PF minutes... and the obvious person for that is CP3. I just don't see Kerr doing that 2nd part, so we may just see alot of center by committee with all 3 getting in the 10-20 minute range.

This is more damning than the dreaded 'vote of confidence' for a struggling head coach

What would the Vegas odds be that Cory Joseph sees a minute before TJD does?

CDM_Stats wrote:

TB wrote:

Onus wrote:I find it hard to see TJD getting regular rotation minutes. He played amazing against the pels and then dnps. He played amazing last night, I expect more DNPs unless someone gets hurt or has foul trouble.

Kerr himself said his minutes were due to Saric foul trouble, even though he'd like to play Trayce every night. So, it really comes down to Loon/Saric playing bad and/or being in foul trouble. Or, one of the G/F minutes needs to get pinched so Saric can shift to more PF minutes... and the obvious person for that is CP3. I just don't see Kerr doing that 2nd part, so we may just see alot of center by committee with all 3 getting in the 10-20 minute range.

This is more damning than the dreaded 'vote of confidence' for a struggling head coach

What would the Vegas odds be that Cory Joseph sees a minute before TJD does?

I don't think it's likely unless cp3 gets injured. I would think TJD plays before cojo. Probably -350 that tjd plays again before cojo.

CDM_Stats wrote:

TB wrote:

Onus wrote:I find it hard to see TJD getting regular rotation minutes. He played amazing against the pels and then dnps. He played amazing last night, I expect more DNPs unless someone gets hurt or has foul trouble.

Kerr himself said his minutes were due to Saric foul trouble, even though he'd like to play Trayce every night. So, it really comes down to Loon/Saric playing bad and/or being in foul trouble. Or, one of the G/F minutes needs to get pinched so Saric can shift to more PF minutes... and the obvious person for that is CP3. I just don't see Kerr doing that 2nd part, so we may just see alot of center by committee with all 3 getting in the 10-20 minute range.

This is more damning than the dreaded 'vote of confidence' for a struggling head coach

What would the Vegas odds be that Cory Joseph sees a minute before TJD does?

On a side note, TJD’s best pair partner is CoJo.

Another small minute oddity: No lineup that includes Podz, Kuminga, TJD and Moody is negative.

it would change our lineup to be 'bigger' & less switchy. I like Trayce & Looney splitting the Center minutes especially when Dario leaves next season.

I'm not sure why everyone has to replace someone else, especially since our core guys are so unique. The truth is the whole system and array of roles will have to change pretty soon anyway, regardless of whether Draymond gets traded (very doubtful). It's not going to be an easy "plug this guy into this slot" and carry on kind of thing, it's all going to have be different.

And the question is will Kerr be able to do that? It's not easy to tear down everything you've built over a decade plus and start over with something new. The tricky part will be the transition if the core doesn't stick together and retire at the same time because then you have a system built specifically for them, but without any replacement parts. Is there a world where someone without direct replacement skills can still work around pieces of the core (mostly Steph), in a modified system? Kerr has shown that mostly he wants guys to adapt to his system instead of him adapting the system to new talent, with mixed results so far.

Mac1958 wrote:

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:I know, it's jumping the gun a bit here, but one can wonder. They share similar qualities (Defense, willingness to pass/share the ball, and rebound), but TJD has big shoes to fill as Green has the upper-hand seeing he's been the anchor in those categories.

I do see that TJD has the knack to find others, rebound at a moderately good rate, and can stay with his man, defensively. If only Kerr can see a 4-year college player with polished skills can do wonders for the team looking for answers at their position of need. Give him more minutes/reps in real, meaningful games to see what he's about as the 57th pick.

I'll be in the minority on this, but yeah, with one caveat.

He's a smart and mature kid, and he averaged 4 assists in his last year in college. That's pretty amazing for a college big. He still has room to improve his game, but even if it's only on the BBIQ, that would be fine. IF (and here's the caveat) the Dubs can put a center next to him who has some range and is not clogging the lane.

I've loved this incredible run, but it's time to make some moves while the pieces still have some value. Klay, Wiggins, Kuminga, CP3, Moody. And Green.

Why the hell not? Draymond came out as a tough 4 year college player. TJD the same. Trace has a high IQ, is able to switch pretty well....a MUCH better shot blocker and lob threat.

Draymond is one of a kind....no doubt. But TJD does things right now that Draymond could never do.

He will never be that vocal red-ass leader and I don't' see him running the point.

But as a replacement? Upgrade in size, power, probably rebounding, shot blocking and lob threat. I'm certain he'll be very good screen setter as well.

I'd take that over a dude past his prime, choking the life out of the team's chemistry, completely unhinged at times.

TJD can't shoot a 3 to save his life. He does have limits. But the real question is simple: is he better than anything else on the roster (Looney)?

The answer appears to be an overwhelming yes. He should play a lot until we find out he can't.