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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#361 » by CjayC » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:07 pm

City of Trees wrote:Bears had a private workout with Patrick Mahomes. Oh yeah!

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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#362 » by CjayC » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:19 pm

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What do you like about him. I've heard him be compared to cutler a lot and I don't think most of us would want cutler 2.0


He makes way better decisions than Cutler, seems to process the game faster, and is a more accurate thrower of the ball. He's more like Matthew Stafford to me.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#363 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:34 am

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City of Trees wrote:Bears had a private workout with Patrick Mahomes. Oh yeah!

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What do you like about him. I've heard him be compared to cutler a lot and I don't think most of us would want cutler 2.0


He makes way better decisions than Cutler, seems to process the game faster, and is a more accurate thrower of the ball. He's more like Matthew Stafford to me.

I don't You can compare college decision making to NFL decision making. It's a lot easier to decide to throw to wide open receivers which is ofter the case in college. Not saying he's not a good decision maker, you'd have to compare both while in college
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#364 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:37 am

With Mahomes arm strength and mobility I think a good comparison could be newton.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#365 » by CjayC » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:53 am

patryk7754 wrote:With Mahomes arm strength and mobility I think a good comparison could be newton.


He throws the ball better than him, but won't be as mobile in the pro's.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#366 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:59 am

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patryk7754 wrote:With Mahomes arm strength and mobility I think a good comparison could be newton.


He throws the ball better than him, but won't be as mobile in the pro's.

If he was a better thrower than newton he'd be the number overall pick but a million miles.
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Post#367 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:05 am

Webb and Knight are my favorite QBs in the draft. Webb I think is the best and there's a chance he's there in the third or second making him a great value pick.

Knight might have the most talent. He was really good for Oklahoma if remember correctly. I'm not sure why he transferred but this past season was a good one for Knight. I think he will benefit greatly from being on the bench for awhile and will finish his career as the best qb out of this class.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#368 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:12 am



Key takeaways
1. Ability to escape pressure in the pocket
2. good accuracy while on the move
3. good arm strength
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#369 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:17 am

Just looked at knights stats. not very impressive. Still think he can develop into quality backup. I thinkn he's worth a 6th
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#370 » by gobullschi » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:32 pm

patryk7754 wrote:I doubt the jets give up the 6th and richardson, plus im pretty sure theyd have to give up more picks to meet the trade requirements.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/
#3 Pick is worth 2,200
#6 Pick is worth 1,600

Sheldon Richardson has been shopped for the second year. He is coming off a down year and his value has went from a 1st to a 3rd round pick.
http://nypost.com/2017/02/28/what-jets-can-get-in-second-try-to-trade-sheldon-richardson/

Two third rounders is fair value. This would be assuming we do NOT want Mitch Trubiskey.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#371 » by Axxo » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:32 pm

patryk7754 wrote:A very hopeful mock

RD 1: Jon Allen, DE
RD 2: Garret Bolles, OT
RD 3: Traded for Richard Sherman
RD 4: Ryan Anderson, OLB
RD 4: Josh Reynolds, WR
RD 5: Trevor Knight, QB
RD 6: Chuncky Clements, DE


Even after the health concerns you'd take Allen? I heard alot of chatter around S.Thomas.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#372 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:12 pm

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patryk7754 wrote:A very hopeful mock

RD 1: Jon Allen, DE
RD 2: Garret Bolles, OT
RD 3: Traded for Richard Sherman
RD 4: Ryan Anderson, OLB
RD 4: Josh Reynolds, WR
RD 5: Trevor Knight, QB
RD 6: Chuncky Clements, DE


Even after the health concerns you'd take Allen? I heard alot of chatter around S.Thomas.

The only concern I've heard of was that he had a shoulder issue and didn't have surgery until the offseason. And it didn't really affect his play.
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#373 » by heir_jordan22 » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:21 am

Most mock draft I'm seeing have Myles Garrett going first. Then some combination of Thomas, Allen and Adams going second and third

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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#374 » by City of Trees » Tue Apr 4, 2017 5:57 am

Which means none of that actually happens, right?

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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#375 » by heir_jordan22 » Tue Apr 4, 2017 6:24 pm

If Garrett doesn't go first then the people of Cleveland need to burn down the Browns facility.

At least one of the other three guys should go in the top three. They're the best players in the draft. But a QB, Hooker and Lattimore could sneak into the top three as well.

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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#376 » by patryk7754 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 7:24 am

Jamal Adams to have a private workout with the bears
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#377 » by fleet » Thu Apr 6, 2017 8:12 am

Was Mike Brown fast? I thought he was average. I'm sure Adams is this kind of safety though. I wouldn't be mad, but I like Hooker more. Wouldn't mind trading down for Hooker.

I read a little while back that the Bears were putting Hall and Fuller at safety. Could be enough with Demps, Amos and Bush
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#378 » by patryk7754 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 2:22 pm

Adams reminds me of bob sanders
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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#379 » by heir_jordan22 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:14 pm

Apparently he ran a 4.33 at his pro day

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Re: 2016/17 College Prospects 

Post#380 » by fleet » Sat Apr 8, 2017 12:54 am

heir_jordan22 wrote:Apparently he ran a 4.33 at his pro day

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