Rockets pursuing Rondo?

[Tim Horton]

On the other hand Rondo would get our turnovers down.

Don't we win more games when we have high turnovers rather than low?

if a PG has no turnovers, he is not doing his job.

[sully00]

Celtics fan reading up on things from the other side.

I would not put too much into the injury thing with Rondo. The knee is what it is but the only other real injury he had that hurt the team was when he messed up his arm against the Heat in the playoffs. He has missed 10 games or so here and there especially early in the season but Doc would also just sit guys for a game to keep the wear and tear down.

Rondo will not make your TO's go down hell no. Your assists to turnovers might improve but Rondo likes to pass the ball and sometimes to the other team.

He is a special player and a game changer, he is not soft and he may be a little too real for Dwight. He is like a little KG that way.

The jumper is better but lets face it the guy isn't shooter or scorer.

Hard to see Boston moving him without getting a guy they can really hang their hat on and I don't see that in this trade. Parsons is nice but the draft picks look like they would be too low. But certainly better than the crap the Knicks are offering.

Certainly will be interesting.

[13th Man]

This cyberx dude has been pretty impressive with his calls I wonder if that could be Morey goofing around on CF lol. I don't know what to think of this potential trade as the team dynamics would be totally revamped, it hurts my head just thinking about it. I figure this would be Morey's way of forcing Harden into playing a true SG role rather than try to be Mr. Everything.

My guess is that they're trying to deal Lin/Asik + fillers for Rondo + fillers but Boston is insisting on Parsons as they want to bring back the image of the 80's Celts, Parsons/Olynk could be the new Bird/McHale?

[Tim Horton]

rumor has it that it's Parsons/Lin/Asik/1st rd pick for Rondo/Green....

Rondo/Harden/Green/PF/Dwight... not bad.

[13th Man]

rumor has it that it's Parsons/Lin/Asik/1st rd pick for Rondo/Green....

Rondo/Harden/Green/PF/Dwight... not bad.

Wow, could be one that works out for both teams in terms of bolstering their starting lineups but I think Houston would be giving up a bit too much especially with the 1st rounder.

Definitely would be a good deal for Boston as they're leveraging off the fact that Houston wants to get rid of Asik and Lin's contracts but I don't see Morey being quite this desperate though. Giving up Parsons is a huge deal already, piling on with the 1st rounder is unnecessary imo lol.

[MaxRider]

rumor has it that it's Parsons/Lin/Asik/1st rd pick for Rondo/Green....

Rondo/Harden/Green/PF/Dwight... not bad.

Wow, could be one that works out for both teams in terms of bolstering their starting lineups but I think Houston would be giving up a bit too much especially with the 1st rounder.

Definitely would be a good deal for Boston as they're leveraging off the fact that Houston wants to get rid of Asik and Lin's contracts but I don't see Morey being quite this desperate though. Giving up Parsons is a huge deal already, piling on with the 1st rounder is unnecessary imo lol.

lol i posted this earlier and it was at the bottom of page 2
it would be better if it's deng instead of green

[13th Man]

rumor has it that it's Parsons/Lin/Asik/1st rd pick for Rondo/Green....

Rondo/Harden/Green/PF/Dwight... not bad.

Wow, could be one that works out for both teams in terms of bolstering their starting lineups but I think Houston would be giving up a bit too much especially with the 1st rounder.

Definitely would be a good deal for Boston as they're leveraging off the fact that Houston wants to get rid of Asik and Lin's contracts but I don't see Morey being quite this desperate though. Giving up Parsons is a huge deal already, piling on with the 1st rounder is unnecessary imo lol.

lol i posted this earlier and it was at the bottom of page 2
it would be better if it's deng instead of green

I missed the post but good point. Rondo + Green is not enough for that huge lot.

[6_Rings]

It isnt often that a team can have a big 3 fall on their laps at the deadline. U guys should totally do this.

[Meatcookie]

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[13th Man]

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[BaYBaller]

Wow, could be one that works out for both teams in terms of bolstering their starting lineups but I think Houston would be giving up a bit too much especially with the 1st rounder.

Definitely would be a good deal for Boston as they're leveraging off the fact that Houston wants to get rid of Asik and Lin's contracts but I don't see Morey being quite this desperate though. Giving up Parsons is a huge deal already, piling on with the 1st rounder is unnecessary imo lol.

lol i posted this earlier and it was at the bottom of page 2
it would be better if it's deng instead of green

I missed the post but good point. Rondo + Green is not enough for that huge lot.

If you really think about it though it really comes down to Parsons for Rondo in the long-run. I think any trade where you basically trade two heavy rotation players (Parsons and Lin) mid-season it's going to hurt the team in the short-run, but in the long-run Asik and Lin aren't in the Rockets plans, so using them to get value whenever you can get it is good.

The real asset is Parsons, who can be had for the rest of this year and next year on the cheap, or the value of declining the player-option to take advantage of his then RFA status. On the other side of the equation Rondo is the big piece and is IMO absolutely a game changer if healthy, however I haven't really been watching him since he came back from injury this season so I'm mostly going off what he's done in the past. The dude was basically elite at everything but shooting.

And then if Green is included he would be the filler at SF for Parsons but I'm not a fan of his contract, who has 2 years remaining plus a player-option (which he will likely opt-in for) for a 3rd year for ~9M a year. Bleh.

I dunno... not sure how I feel about this trade. If it does go through I don't see us having any chance getting past the 2nd round in the playoffs.

[Meatcookie]

Parsons WAS a big reason we were able to land Dwight, and IS still a teammate that keeps Dwight happy. He is staying... unless Dwight loves Rondo

[MaxRider]

Parsons is the GLUE guy
re-watch those games Parsons missed this team totally collapse

[MaxRider]

lol i posted this earlier and it was at the bottom of page 2
it would be better if it's deng instead of green

I missed the post but good point. Rondo + Green is not enough for that huge lot.

If you really think about it though it really comes down to Parsons for Rondo in the long-run. I think any trade where you basically trade two heavy rotation players (Parsons and Lin) mid-season it's going to hurt the team in the short-run, but in the long-run Asik and Lin aren't in the Rockets plans, so using them to get value whenever you can get it is good.

The real asset is Parsons, who can be had for the rest of this year and next year on the cheap, or the value of declining the player-option to take advantage of his then RFA status. On the other side of the equation Rondo is the big piece and is IMO absolutely a game changer if healthy, however I haven't really been watching him since he came back from injury this season so I'm mostly going off what he's done in the past. The dude was basically elite at everything but shooting.

And then if Green is included he would be the filler at SF for Parsons but I'm not a fan of his contract, who has 2 years remaining plus a player-option (which he will likely opt-in for) for a 3rd year for ~9M a year. Bleh.

I dunno... not sure how I feel about this trade. If it does go through I don't see us having any chance getting past the 2nd round in the playoffs.

initially Morey want the cap space relief for 2015 because of Love but read so many places that Love will go to LA so i don't think Morey is going to keep that space anymore
maybe for 2016 (Durant)

[13th Man]

If you really think about it though it really comes down to Parsons for Rondo in the long-run. I think any trade where you basically trade two heavy rotation players (Parsons and Lin) mid-season it's going to hurt the team in the short-run, but in the long-run Asik and Lin aren't in the Rockets plans, so using them to get value whenever you can get it is good.

The real asset is Parsons, who can be had for the rest of this year and next year on the cheap, or the value of declining the player-option to take advantage of his then RFA status. On the other side of the equation Rondo is the big piece and is IMO absolutely a game changer if healthy, however I haven't really been watching him since he came back from injury this season so I'm mostly going off what he's done in the past. The dude was basically elite at everything but shooting.

And then if Green is included he would be the filler at SF for Parsons but I'm not a fan of his contract, who has 2 years remaining plus a player-option (which he will likely opt-in for) for a 3rd year for ~9M a year. Bleh.

I dunno... not sure how I feel about this trade. If it does go through I don't see us having any chance getting past the 2nd round in the playoffs.

I'm thinking that Houston's plan is to win within the next couple of years, you don't really want to plan too far ahead due to uncertainties. If this is the case, shedding 3 of your 2-year remaining contracts doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Maybe trying to get rid of Asik + Lin because they're expensive bench players but acquiring Rondo in this manner would not only deplete our bench but would also bring the value/importance of Beverley back down to earth. Harden would also be forced to change up his game. I just think there are too many sacrifices to be made for this scenario to work and we would lose much needed depth.

[BaYBaller]

If you really think about it though it really comes down to Parsons for Rondo in the long-run. I think any trade where you basically trade two heavy rotation players (Parsons and Lin) mid-season it's going to hurt the team in the short-run, but in the long-run Asik and Lin aren't in the Rockets plans, so using them to get value whenever you can get it is good.

The real asset is Parsons, who can be had for the rest of this year and next year on the cheap, or the value of declining the player-option to take advantage of his then RFA status. On the other side of the equation Rondo is the big piece and is IMO absolutely a game changer if healthy, however I haven't really been watching him since he came back from injury this season so I'm mostly going off what he's done in the past. The dude was basically elite at everything but shooting.

And then if Green is included he would be the filler at SF for Parsons but I'm not a fan of his contract, who has 2 years remaining plus a player-option (which he will likely opt-in for) for a 3rd year for ~9M a year. Bleh.

I dunno... not sure how I feel about this trade. If it does go through I don't see us having any chance getting past the 2nd round in the playoffs.

I'm thinking that Houston's plan is to win within the next couple of years, you don't really want to plan too far ahead due to uncertainties. If this is the case, shedding 3 of your 2-year remaining contracts doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Maybe trying to get rid of Asik + Lin because they're expensive bench players but acquiring Rondo in this manner would not only deplete our bench but would also bring the value/importance of Beverley back down to earth. Harden would also be forced to change up his game. I just think there are too many sacrifices to be made for this scenario to work and we would lose much needed depth.

I don't believe Morey is actually trying to shed Asik and Lin's salary per se. He's actively trying to trade Asik because he's disgruntled and requested to be traded, but Lin is contributing a lot to team at the moment. It's more a situation where Morey believes he needs that 3rd star to have a solid chance to win a championship the next few years, and thus the crux of the question really boils down to if 1) Morey believes Rondo is that star (who has been in the past) 2) you believe Parsons can become that star (where you can make the case he is producing elite offensive numbers relative to his limited amount of touches) or 3) you stand pat and wait and maintain that 2015 cap flexibility for your 3rd star.

[Flight33]

Houston can not trade the guy who basically begged and got Dwight to sign in Houston.

[inquisitive]

no surprise at all that lin is not being discussed. the celts want beverly. with that being said, i dont see this deal ever happening cause morey will not give up parsons...period!

[inquisitive]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10484 ... on-celtics

The Rockets want to acquire Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo, according to sources familiar with Houston’s thinking.

Yet sources told ESPN.com that talks between the teams have not progressed to a serious stage because the sides can’t agree on the framework of a trade.

One main stumbling block, sources said, is Boston’s desire to acquire blossoming Houston swingman Chandler Parsons in a potential Rondo deal. Sources say the Rockets have informed the Celtics that they are not prepared to surrender Parsons as part of a Rondo package.

The Celtics have consistently denied that Rondo will be dealt before Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET deadline. There have been strong indications all season that Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck wants to keep Rondo in Boston to give the former All-Star point guard, who is still in the early stages of his recovery from a torn ACL, ample time to form a partnership with first-year coach Brad Stevens.

But the Rockets have made a trade at every deadline during general manager Daryl Morey’s tenure running their front office and are known to covet Rondo deeply.

Houston also possesses draft picks to deal and a cache of young players beyond Parsons — such as disgruntled (and very available) big man Omer Asik along with the likes of Patrick Beverley, Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas — to try to tempt the Celtics.

The close relationship between Morey and Boston counterpart Danny Ainge — Morey spent time in the Celtics’ front office under Ainge — makes it easy for the teams to engage in trade discussions.

But if the Rockets’ position on Parsons is firm, it would be up to Boston to decide to go forward with Rondo (who can become an unrestricted free agent in July 2015), focus on other teams or try to construct an alternative deal with the Rockets.

[ChokeFasncists]

Boston would definitely be a playoff team in the East after this trade.

Asik
Sully
Parsons
A. Brad
Lin

Bench

Olynyk/Anthony
Bass/Humphries
Wallace
Bayless
Pressey

We'd probably want one of Olynyk/Anthony/Bass/Humphries back.