Too Early 2012 Draft Thread

[LUKE23]

I'd be all over Upshaw if he falls.

[RiotPunch]

Upshaw has Grizzy Bear paws for hands. He is a LOAD to block and will command doubles. Fits the "power pig" mold OLB that I think is a perfect fit opposite Clay. Other candidates for that style are Ingram, Hightower and Cam Johnson.

His mean streak is downright scary and will be dominant against the run on day one. If he gets close enough I would consider trading up for him, definitely wouldn't pass on him at 28.

Totally agree, he's exactly what GB needs opposite Clay Matthews. He's a guy you can line up over the TE and jam the crap out of him, gets Clay free on the other side iso'ed on a tackle. He's not straight-line fast at all but he's got good lateral quickness and strong enough power to quickly shed blocks.

I talked to a scout the other day and he told me Hightower goes before Upshaw. Hightower can play any LB spot in any scheme, best as a 3-4 ILB. I could see Upshaw falling to the early 20s but I strongly suspect if he's still there at 18 the Chargers pounce on him. He plays a lot like Merriman and they miss Mr. Roid.

They gotta go Reiff or Glenn there though, don't they?

[Bucksfans1and2]

anyone know where to find Wonderlic scores for draft prospects?

They're not released. If they're out there it's because an agent told a reporter and that's not reliable at all.

[Bucksfans1and2]

Upshaw has Grizzy Bear paws for hands. He is a LOAD to block and will command doubles. Fits the "power pig" mold OLB that I think is a perfect fit opposite Clay. Other candidates for that style are Ingram, Hightower and Cam Johnson.

His mean streak is downright scary and will be dominant against the run on day one. If he gets close enough I would consider trading up for him, definitely wouldn't pass on him at 28.

Totally agree, he's exactly what GB needs opposite Clay Matthews. He's a guy you can line up over the TE and jam the crap out of him, gets Clay free on the other side iso'ed on a tackle. He's not straight-line fast at all but he's got good lateral quickness and strong enough power to quickly shed blocks.

I talked to a scout the other day and he told me Hightower goes before Upshaw. Hightower can play any LB spot in any scheme, best as a 3-4 ILB. I could see Upshaw falling to the early 20s but I strongly suspect if he's still there at 18 the Chargers pounce on him. He plays a lot like Merriman and they miss Mr. Roid.

They gotta go Reiff or Glenn there though, don't they?

Chargers have ignored their RT spot for years. Why would any of their other O-Line spots be different??

[eagle13]

walter’s 3/30 packer mock

1 Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
2 Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State
3 Jared Crick, DE/DT, Nebraska
4 Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
4 Tony Bergstrom, OT/G, Utah
4 Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
5 B.J. Coleman, QB, UT-Chattanooga

[RiotPunch]

Rounds 2&3 make me want to vomit.

[Bucksfans1and2]

Rounds 2&3 make me want to vomit.

I wouldn't hate Brandon Taylor

That's the nicest thing I can think of to say about that mock.

[RiotPunch]

Chargers have ignored their RT spot for years. Why would any of their other O-Line spots be different??

Yeah, I know... It's just with Marcus McNeill likely getting cut and with Kris Dielman being forced into retirement, they would be nuts to not take a good guard or tackle if one falls to them. I guess they might be that stupid, though.

Rounds 2&3 make me want to vomit.

I wouldn't hate Brandon Taylor

That's the nicest thing I can think of to say about that mock.

I don't mind Gilmore and Taylor I guess. Could do worse that Bergstrom and I actually really like Coleman. Pass on Hillman though, you can get a better player in Adonis Thomas in the 6th or 7th rounds.

[Enrique]

walter’s 3/30 packer mock

1 Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
2 Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State
3 Jared Crick, DE/DT, Nebraska
4 Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
4 Tony Bergstrom, OT/G, Utah
4 Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
5 B.J. Coleman, QB, UT-Chattanooga

I don't think that Gilmore or Crick will be there and McClellin might not be there either. If they're all there I would love rds. 1-3. Coleman I like too.

[RiotPunch]

What do you like about McClellin and Crick? One's a "try hard overacheiver" without a true position, the other is a solid-but-not-stellar DT/DE coming off of a major pectoral injury. If you are seeing something that I'm not, please share!

Crick in the 5th I'd be cool with.

[El Duderino]

Upshaw's day is tougher to read. The outside linebacker said he tipped the scales at 279 pounds -- six pounds heavier than he was at the Combine. That'd be all well and good if he was actually trying to put on weight. He wasn't. A month ago, Upshaw said his goal was to lose weight. He felt comfortable at 270 in college. NFL.com's Bucky Brooks said Upshaw ran the 40 in the 4.73-4.76 range and "looked average." Keep an eye on Upshaw's stock watch. CBS Sports' Rob Rang now has him slipping the No. 29 overall.

I can't fathom that really happening, dropping all the way to the end of the first round.

Totally agree, he's exactly what GB needs opposite Clay Matthews. He's a guy you can line up over the TE and jam the crap out of him, gets Clay free on the other side iso'ed on a tackle. He's not straight-line fast at all but he's got good lateral quickness and strong enough power to quickly shed blocks.

Plus, Upshaw strikes me very much as the type of OLB that Kevin Greene would love to to have and coach. Greene always talks about first and foremost he wants strong guys that can power through a blocker so that can set up moves around the edge.

With Ted having two 4th round comp picks and 12 total picks to work with in case he chose to move up at any point, i'd be plenty happy if Upshaw slipped far enough down to where Ted felt it was good time to try and move up to land Upshaw.

[eagle13]

comp picks can't be traded. to move up more than 2 or 3 slots in 1st it will take both our 2nd & 3rd & that imo ain't happening. Too many holes to fill & fortunately many prospects to not need to.

[Enrique]

What do you like about McClellin and Crick? One's a "try hard overacheiver" without a true position, the other is a solid-but-not-stellar DT/DE coming off of a major pectoral injury. If you are seeing something that I'm not, please share!

Crick in the 5th I'd be cool with.

I think McClellin has a definite postion- OLB. He reminds me alot of Brooks Reed, who I wasn't crazy about last year. Reed definately panned out, I don't see why he can't either. Crick would have been a first rounder if he came out last year, so I would take a flier on him at the end of the 3rd. He's produced when healthy, and supposedly he's healthy now. Coming off pectoral surgery, he put up 26 bench reps at his pro day. Would you have taken Gronkowski a couple years ago? He was coming off an even more serious injury, and i think that situation worked out ok.

[Bucksfans1and2]

What do you like about McClellin and Crick? One's a "try hard overacheiver" without a true position, the other is a solid-but-not-stellar DT/DE coming off of a major pectoral injury. If you are seeing something that I'm not, please share!

Crick in the 5th I'd be cool with.

I think McClellin has a definite postion- OLB. He reminds me alot of Brooks Reed, who I wasn't crazy about last year. Reed definately panned out, I don't see why he can't either. Crick would have been a first rounder if he came out last year, so I would take a flier on him at the end of the 3rd. He's produced when healthy, and supposedly he's healthy now. Coming off pectoral surgery, he put up 26 bench reps at his pro day. Would you have taken Gronkowski a couple years ago? He was coming off an even more serious injury, and i think that situation worked out ok.

McClellin can't get to the QB. That's not an OLB

Burfict would've been a Top-10 at the beginning of this season. I don't want him.

No, I wouldn't have taken Gronk. Sometimes it works out, other times it blows up in your face.

[eagle13]

Put me in McClellin's camp. Guy CAN rush the passer, play the run AND while not great is better in coverage than most DE converts. Plus he has some PT as OLB. Those last two factors can't be overlooked. While Shea's nowhere near Clay they have same skill set. He has the potential of being a 3 down player. Upshaw will struggle to be 3 down player as OLB.