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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#21 » by Bernman » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:36 pm

F**k, give it to him. That's very reasonable and the guy has a reliable personality on and off the field. Very genuine, likeable guy, and almost always accountable if he makes a mistake. Afterward he tries to make up for it by figuratively running through a wall. He deserves that compensation and loyalty from the Packers. I'd actually be disappointed in Ted if he tried to haggle with him given Cobb's demands were that reasonable.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#22 » by Balls2TheWalls » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:09 pm

Bernman wrote:F**k, give it to him. That's very reasonable and the guy has a reliable personality on and off the field. Very genuine, likeable guy, and almost always accountable if he makes a mistake. Afterward he tries to make up for it by figuratively running through a wall. He deserves that compensation and loyalty from the Packers. I'd actually be disappointed in Ted if he tried to haggle with him given Cobb's demands were that reasonable.


Yep. Personality wise he seems like a younger Jordy Nelson. This is the kind of guy you want in your ball club. Get him locked up, don't haggle and make the entire state of Wisconsin proud with this signing. This guy came back from a shattered leg to put up his best season as a pro.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#23 » by zmanishere11 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:54 pm

I've been totally against resigning Cobb, for the following reasons:

1. I think signing him costs us Bulaga (or Lacy, or Sitten, or Lang)
2. Adams looks like a potential stud # 2
3. We have enough guys on the roster with potential where I can see someone already on the team step up as #3. And if not,
4. TT has an awesome knack for finding WR's.

Here's one more piece for you to consider: Here's the top 10 teams in regards to cap numbers paid to WR's last year (from Spotrac)

WR's Cap # % of cap
1 Miami Dolphins 7 $28,509,027 18.93%
2 Houston Texans 5 $19,422,087 14.44%
3 Washington Redskins 6 $18,120,622 13.76%
4 Detroit Lions 5 $18,151,227 13.73%
5 Denver Broncos 5 $18,171,359 13.34%
6 Atlanta Falcons 6 $17,827,688 13.13%
7 Kansas City Chiefs 6 $15,925,098 11.84%
8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 $16,192,331 11.62%
9 Arizona Cardinals 6 $14,623,225 10.65%
10 New York Jets 8 $13,898,532 10.36%

19 Green Bay Packers 5 $8,664,191 6.11%

You'll notice the majority of those top 10 teams are terrible.

Paying Cobb $9 mil / year will put is in the top 3 each year for the next 4 years.

I guess all I'm saying, is that putting that kind of money into the WR position in todays NFL (IE: salary cap) is not a good idea.

Basically every good team outside of Denver was good last year with RC's and middle level guys at the position.

Why the heck can't GB?

I do know that if Rodgers gets hurt - we WILL NOT be good. Ever.

At the very least the bust factor with Cobb is basically 0. He's a good dude and a great player. I just worry that he costs us Bulaga or Lacy or even one of our two guards next year - all of whom are vastly more important players to our success (in my opinion).
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#24 » by RRyder823 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:55 pm

zmanishere11 wrote:I've been totally against resigning Cobb, for the following reasons:

1. I think signing him costs us Bulaga (or Lacy, or Sitten, or Lang)
2. Adams looks like a potential stud # 2
3. We have enough guys on the roster with potential where I can see someone already on the team step up as #3
. And if not,
4. TT has an awesome knack for finding WR's.

Here's one more piece for you to consider: Here's the top 10 teams in regards to cap numbers paid to WR's last year (from Spotrac)

WR's Cap # % of cap
1 Miami Dolphins 7 $28,509,027 18.93%
2 Houston Texans 5 $19,422,087 14.44%
3 Washington Redskins 6 $18,120,622 13.76%
4 Detroit Lions 5 $18,151,227 13.73%
5 Denver Broncos 5 $18,171,359 13.34%
6 Atlanta Falcons 6 $17,827,688 13.13%
7 Kansas City Chiefs 6 $15,925,098 11.84%
8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 $16,192,331 11.62%
9 Arizona Cardinals 6 $14,623,225 10.65%
10 New York Jets 8 $13,898,532 10.36%

19 Green Bay Packers 5 $8,664,191 6.11%

You'll notice the majority of those top 10 teams are terrible.

Paying Cobb $9 mil / year will put is in the top 3 each year for the next 4 years.

I guess all I'm saying, is that putting that kind of money into the WR position in todays NFL (IE: salary cap) is not a good idea.

Basically every good team outside of Denver was good last year with RC's and middle level guys at the position.

Why the heck can't GB?

I do know that if Rodgers gets hurt - we WILL NOT be good. Ever.

At the very least the bust factor with Cobb is basically 0. He's a good dude and a great player. I just worry that he costs us Bulaga or Lacy or even one of our two guards next year - all of whom are vastly more important players to our success (in my opinion).


#1 Well first signing Cobb to a 9 million dollar deal will have very little effect on resigning Bulaga. That comes down to whether he gets an outrageous offer in FA..... Lang n Sitton being retained in the next few years is more dependent on Bulagas deal much more then Cobbs due to how much they want to tie up in Oline. N it shouldnt affect Lacy with him not being up for another couple of years. So yeah. None of those should leave u worried.

#2 I love Adams but hes not ready to be a "stud" #2 WR next season. Wait till hes a "stud" #3 before making that claim.

#3 What potential? I know people like Abreddaris because he's a Badger but if your excited for a 5th round pick that sat out his entire rookie year due to injury and a 7th rounder in Janis that had a decent training camp ,but yet couldnt beat out Boykins or the recently cut Dorsey for playing time, to come anywhere close to replacing Cobbs production then ill say "power to ya brotha". Cause that isn't happening.

N damn. Instead of just printing of those cap numbers use some context. Jordy/Cobb as a duo is VASTLY suppior to any duo on that list. The only duo that holds up against them is Denvers or Atlanta n as u said Denver was pretty good n Detroit did manage to crack the playoffs. Also Arizona was pretty damn good till they ended on their 4th string QB. That list is simply a anditment not to throw HUGE money at sub par/average WRs.

To sum up I disagree with your post
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#25 » by eagle13 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:31 am

cobb's request is reasonable, he's young. great team-mate, and works magic w/ Rodgers. Pay Him. He or no one will cost us Bulaga. The Bulaga decision is totally based on if Bulaga asks for the number TT has in mind. If yes - TT signs him regardless of Cobb. If Bulaga wants much more than Ted sees - TT lets him walk - regardless of Cobb. I believe IF Bulaga is offered > $9mil Ted drops out. And should!
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#26 » by Mags FTW » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:58 pm

Half those teams in the Top 10 paid to WRs have garbage QBs throwing to them.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#27 » by zmanishere11 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:24 pm

Lots of whispers linking Cobb to OAK. Not sure if there's anything to that, or people just using some common sense (Oak needs WR / good young QB / $$$ to spend / GB connection w / Mckenzie).

If Cobb hits FA without a tag and OAK is actually interested, I'll eat my hat if he gets a penny less than Percy Harvin got ($11 mil).

That's why I think Cobb at $9 mil is a pipe dream (and still overpaying, but I digress).
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#28 » by zmanishere11 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:24 am

Looks like Cobb is going to get to test free agency.

I'd imagine there's a number in his head he'd leave GB / Rodgers for - I'll guess $11 mil, w / TT offering $8 mil (high guarantees) on a shorter deal so he can cash in again.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#29 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:43 pm

He gone. I hope we can tag and trade him for a second.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#30 » by FAH1223 » Mon Mar 2, 2015 6:32 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:He gone. I hope we can tag and trade him for a second.


Doubt it

This smells like Shields from last year.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#31 » by humanrefutation » Mon Mar 2, 2015 7:14 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:He gone. I hope we can tag and trade him for a second.


Doubt it

This smells like Shields from last year.


Yeah. I expect them to get a deal done. I'd be very disappointed if they let him go.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#32 » by zmanishere11 » Mon Mar 2, 2015 7:59 pm

Risdon mentioned TT was hoping for 4 / $25 mil, Cobb looking for 4 / $35 mil.

Still think he gets 4 / $40+ mil on the open market from a garbage team.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#33 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Mar 2, 2015 8:21 pm

I can easily see Oakland or Jacksonville offering north of eight figures. They have a ton of cap room and need to reach the salary floor.

I'm still confident we can get a deal, but what's the highest compensation we can get from him via RFA? A 2nd rounder?
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#34 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 2, 2015 9:14 pm

I don't think Cobb returns. It's a thin crop of WRs on the market and plenty of needy teams out there can offer him a monster deal.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#35 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 2, 2015 9:54 pm

Yea, if this is accurate he's gone:

The Packers may have set a ceiling of $10 million per year with Cobb since that is what veteran Jordy Nelson receives and they probably don't want to pay him more. Cobb appears to have a higher number than that. One source said the word going around at the NFL combine league personnel staff and executives was that his price was $12 million per year.
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#36 » by crkone » Mon Mar 2, 2015 9:57 pm

Yeah better change the title of the thread. That is a huge number.

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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#37 » by chuckleslove » Mon Mar 2, 2015 10:01 pm

If that's the number he is as good as gone.
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Post#38 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 2, 2015 11:12 pm

This is going to be exactly like Sheilds last year. People will be freaking out the day before FA hits like he's already in Oakland or Jacksonville and at the eleventh hour a deal will get done for a lil more then people were hoping and there will be tons of chatter among the fans on whether we overpaid
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Re: Cobb wants $9 million a year 

Post#39 » by Sky Bucks » Tue Mar 3, 2015 4:10 am

I'd hate to see Cobb go, but if I expect it, I won't be as disappointed when he does leave.
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Post#40 » by arizonabuck » Tue Mar 3, 2015 4:19 am

12 million is too much for a slot guy

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