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He should be/should have been be at WR. I will say, when he was getting 10-20% of the snaps at the right time at QB, it was productive. Of course, they started calling terrible plays for him late in the year. The zone-read stuff at QB was very good in the right places.
All of that said, would love to see him step forward at WR if his hands are good.
All of that said, would love to see him step forward at WR if his hands are good.
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People are forgetting how good McEvoy played at safety with just a crash course. I have no problem with him getting receiver snaps situationally but his primary position should be free safety.
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He was alright at safety, but we have a bigger need at wr, where you haven't seen him in college. He could be even better. That's the position he was recruited at by the big boys when he was transferring I believe. His college tape was phenomenal. McEvoy, Erickson, Fumagali - sounds like a potentially very solid receiving core to me. It could be sub par again without McEvoy. Whereas they should be able to get by fine at S with Caputo and Figaro.
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I'm also hoping one of Rushing, Weelwright, or Sanders is able to be not **** (which is an upgrade of anything they've had in the past) few years.
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Kerb Hohl wrote:I'm also hoping one of Rushing, Weelwright, or Sanders is able to be not **** (which is an upgrade of anything they've had in the past) few years.
I have faith in Chryst to get near the best out of them, and I really liked Sanders' hs tape, but there's no college evidence to go off yet, and reports out of camp haven't exactly be glowing. Their wr coach Gilmore was actually pretty harsh on both Sanders and Rushing. With Wheelwright it's apparently always one injury or another.
McEvoy can and probably will play some on both sides. But his impact on one will detract from the other, and he's increasing his injury risk.
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I would just keep McEvoy at WR. He's most needed there and he could be a superb red zone target - even if they don't pass it to him he will command double teams. Trying to make him a part time two way player I don't think will work. Jack of all trade, expert on none.
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Lots of attrition/injuries/bad luck at OL right now. Worried about a complete curb-stomping at the hands of Saban.
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SpursNBucks wrote:I would just keep McEvoy at WR. He's most needed there and he could be a superb red zone target - even if they don't pass it to him he will command double teams. Trying to make him a part time two way player I don't think will work. Jack of all trade, expert on none.
They should move Gillins to WR too, let Stave and Houston be the 1 & 2
Could run some crazy shifts pre-snap swapping QB's and run some trick play WR Screen - Double Pass vs Alabama
Feel like we need to do some of this to stay close.
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They need to continue developing Gillins as QB. He's reportedly making significant progress, especially in the play action game. And he's probably the favorite to take over after Stave graduates.
People need to give up the Bart Houston delusions that stem from this misconception he was a can't miss as a recruit. Not sure there is such a thing when it comes to QB's, and if there is, he was far from it. A 3/4* guy who ran the veer. His biggest contribution to Wisconsin, when we could have used QB help, was as a bad rugby-style punter.
People need to give up the Bart Houston delusions that stem from this misconception he was a can't miss as a recruit. Not sure there is such a thing when it comes to QB's, and if there is, he was far from it. A 3/4* guy who ran the veer. His biggest contribution to Wisconsin, when we could have used QB help, was as a bad rugby-style punter.
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Bernman wrote:He was alright at safety, but we have a bigger need at wr, where you haven't seen him in college. He could be even better. That's the position he was recruited at by the big boys when he was transferring I believe. His college tape was phenomenal. McEvoy, Erickson, Fumagali - sounds like a potentially very solid receiving core to me. It could be sub par again without McEvoy. Whereas they should be able to get by fine at S with Caputo and Figaro.
I thought Musso was playing his way into some big minutes?
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Ill-yasova wrote:Bernman wrote:He was alright at safety, but we have a bigger need at wr, where you haven't seen him in college. He could be even better. That's the position he was recruited at by the big boys when he was transferring I believe. His college tape was phenomenal. McEvoy, Erickson, Fumagali - sounds like a potentially very solid receiving core to me. It could be sub par again without McEvoy. Whereas they should be able to get by fine at S with Caputo and Figaro.
I thought Musso was playing his way into some big minutes?
I posted that 2 weeks ago. That's a lot of time in a fall camp. In fact, most of it.
Pleased to hear about the development. Musso looked decent at the beginning of his career, then was kind of forgotten about under Gare.
McEvoy listed alongside Erickson at WR looks pretty.
But I don't see the offense overall being pretty the first game against Bama with the state Gare left the OL in. It's likely going to take a little time to rebuild under Chryst to be the maulers we historically are. No OL from the state listed on the first team, and there will be 1-2 this season if health allows. I'm scared, hold me.
Should still win the weak west, but there could be a few games on the season where we get handily beaten. The better than usual DL/and D will likely have to keep us in them. More often the OL/and O is the calling card. I'm sure Clement and Stave in the play action to McEvoy/Erickson will have their moments. But Chryst will really have to show how good of an OC he is to keep strong DL's from giving them big problems.
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Bernman wrote:
But I don't see the offense overall being pretty the first game against Bama
Yea, i was generally for the Badgers beefing up their non-conference schedule with games against Alabama and LSU, especially given so many bland conference games against teams in the weak West, but this looks like it could be a very bad year to open against Bama in what amounts to basically a road game.
Between all of the injuries on the OL and the lack of depth on that line, if we can't run the ball effectively, it could get really really ugly given Stave to often has sucked even with an elite rushing attack behind him which forced defenses to consistently play 8-9 man boxes and a single high safety. So if Bama is able to keep in check our running game without having to crowd the line of scrimmage to do so, odds are high things could get really embarrassing.
Stave is an immobile statue in the pocket who regularly makes bad decisions when pressured, so if the offense gets in a bunch of 2nd and 3rd and long situations with that talented Bama DL, i fear plenty of sacks, incompletions, and picks will follow. If the Badgers can keep the game within say 14 points, i'll be happy because i dread the thought instead of some 45-10 drubbing which my gut says will be more likely unless Aranda's defense plays well. Really hope i'm wrong.
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Bern - agree with basically everything you're saying. I don't think Gary is to blame for a 5-star recruit having depression issues, injuries, etc. Just a bunch of bad luck at that spot. If you want to blame the lack of upper-class OL depth on anyone, start with Beilema.
I actually somewhat agree on your theory of in-state recruits, but you take it way too far. How is it Gary's fault that the upper-classmen aren't from WI? Only sophomores/RS frosh/frosh would be his guys. Maybe some juniors, but most of the groundwork was laid with BB.
Gault, Panos, Dietzen, Benzschawel all came in under Gary and other than Gault (above depression issues) are in the 2-deep. Biegel is a WI guy possibly starting.
I actually somewhat agree on your theory of in-state recruits, but you take it way too far. How is it Gary's fault that the upper-classmen aren't from WI? Only sophomores/RS frosh/frosh would be his guys. Maybe some juniors, but most of the groundwork was laid with BB.
Gault, Panos, Dietzen, Benzschawel all came in under Gary and other than Gault (above depression issues) are in the 2-deep. Biegel is a WI guy possibly starting.
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Kerb Hohl wrote:[url=http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/depth_chart_event/depth_chart.pdf]Depth Chart[/url]
Musso starting? Nice! I think he's the first Waunakee kid to ever become a starter at UW.
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Kerb Hohl wrote:Depth Chart
What the hell does it say about our receiving corp when a safety-turned-QB-turned-receiver is starting?
God, what a **** mess.
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He supposedly has looked good - but yeah, it's sad. Some other places I am reading that while that depth chart is correct for the starters/obvious stuff, I don't see why guys like Rushing aren't on there. Either they're just trying to bank some slightly better options for the future at WR, or it's going to be another poor set of WR years coming up.
I feel like Rushing will unseat Love and get some playing time. I hope Rushing/Sanders develop into something.
I feel like Rushing will unseat Love and get some playing time. I hope Rushing/Sanders develop into something.
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Reported earlier tonight - Clement is out 4-6 weeks after hernia surgery and will decide on taking a medical redshirt later on this season.
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I was on a plane ride back to AZ with three WI recruits today. I did my best to talk up WI so hopefully we can get all three. We have one in Kare Lyles it appears. His younger brother Kayden and a DE named Garrett Rand were also with them. Turns out the chaperones were the Lyles parents who attended Madison so we have that going for us. Some of you guys might remember the dad Kevin Lyles who played in the last 90's. He is a great guy. The whole family seemed like great people actually so I'm hopeful we can recruit them all.
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Nice...sounds like the other Lyles guy is pretty likely and Rand is "maybe" but that is just random Twitter readings.