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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#21 » by rilamann » Tue Oct 6, 2015 4:21 am

This is the type of game that would have had me nervous the past few seasons.Not this season with this Packer team.Rams are solid and they do have a good defense.I picked them as one of my playoff teams in the NFC this season but as far as winning at Lambeau,they're not on that level yet.

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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#22 » by HKPackFan » Tue Oct 6, 2015 6:17 am

rilamann wrote:This is the type of game that would have had me nervous the past few seasons.Not this season with this Packer team.Rams are solid and they do have a good defense.I picked them as one of my playoff teams in the NFC this season but as far as winning at Lambeau,they're not on that level yet.

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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#23 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:26 pm

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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#24 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Oct 6, 2015 2:44 pm

So the Packers gave Jared Abbrederis a three year deal at the league minimum salaries, and for the life of me I can't understand why Abby did this. If he performs well (or even is simply just solid), the Packers have a steal. If he doesn't perform well or gets injured again, they can cut him at no cost.
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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#25 » by LUKE23 » Tue Oct 6, 2015 2:47 pm

Rams front 7 is disgusting and Gurley is the best combination of speed and power we have seen this year. Still, hard to see Rams beating us unless they beat us in the turnover game, which is unlikely.

Need to go into the bye 6-0. #1 seed or bust.
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Post#26 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Oct 6, 2015 3:00 pm

That #1 seed is going to be tough to come by. Atlanta's a new team under Quinn and they have the easiest remaining schedule in the league. It might take a 15-1 kinda season to be the top seed.
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Post#27 » by RRyder823 » Tue Oct 6, 2015 3:15 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:So the Packers gave Jared Abbrederis a three year deal at the league minimum salaries, and for the life of me I can't understand why Abby did this. If he performs well (or even is simply just solid), the Packers have a steal. If he doesn't perform well or gets injured again, they can cut him at no cost.


Because they said sign this deal or not get called up from the PS?

Practice squad players are exactly in a position of strength to negotiate. What's so hard to understand?
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Post#28 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Oct 6, 2015 3:16 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:So the Packers gave Jared Abbrederis a three year deal at the league minimum salaries, and for the life of me I can't understand why Abby did this. If he performs well (or even is simply just solid), the Packers have a steal. If he doesn't perform well or gets injured again, they can cut him at no cost.


It's a pretty big risk with his concussion history, but I'm guessing he'd rather take the potential payday over the peanuts players make with practice squad salaries. Leaguè minimum this year ($435,000) is still insanely more than the average PS salary ($120,000 on average).

But yeah, it's the signing for multiple years that surprised me. I mean, it's incredibly team-friendly, but for his own financial security, it's a bit puzzling...
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Post#29 » by Flames24Rulz » Tue Oct 6, 2015 6:42 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:That #1 seed is going to be tough to come by. Atlanta's a new team under Quinn and they have the easiest remaining schedule in the league. It might take a 15-1 kinda season to be the top seed.


As long as #12 stays healthy, I see no reason why the Packers can't go 14-2 or 15-1. I think they'll split against Arizona and Denver on the road. Just take care of business.

But even if Atlanta were to get HFA, that's one stadium where obviously the offense can perform at an extremely high level in January. Might not be the worst thing in the world.
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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#30 » by El Duderino » Tue Oct 6, 2015 8:11 pm

Flames24Rulz wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:That #1 seed is going to be tough to come by. Atlanta's a new team under Quinn and they have the easiest remaining schedule in the league. It might take a 15-1 kinda season to be the top seed.


As long as #12 stays healthy, I see no reason why the Packers can't go 14-2 or 15-1. I think they'll split against Arizona and Denver on the road. Just take care of business.

But even if Atlanta were to get HFA, that's one stadium where obviously the offense can perform at an extremely high level in January. Might not be the worst thing in the world.


I don't see them going 15-1 and even 14-2 strikes me as a stretch.
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Post#31 » by neiLz » Tue Oct 6, 2015 8:23 pm

I don't see how the rams score more than 17 unless their defense creates turnovers. Packers average around 30 pts a game. I am thinking packers 31 - Rams 17.
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Post#32 » by trwi7 » Tue Oct 6, 2015 9:36 pm

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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#33 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Oct 6, 2015 9:45 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:So the Packers gave Jared Abbrederis a three year deal at the league minimum salaries, and for the life of me I can't understand why Abby did this. If he performs well (or even is simply just solid), the Packers have a steal. If he doesn't perform well or gets injured again, they can cut him at no cost.


It's a pretty big risk with his concussion history, but I'm guessing he'd rather take the potential payday over the peanuts players make with practice squad salaries. Leaguè minimum this year ($435,000) is still insanely more than the average PS salary ($120,000 on average).

But yeah, it's the signing for multiple years that surprised me. I mean, it's incredibly team-friendly, but for his own financial security, it's a bit puzzling...

I'll take a guarantee 4x my salary this year versus risking never getting paid beyond this year holding out for a new contract. If they said take this or we will promote someone else you better take it. Looking salaries, he would have to be a top 90 receiver (or in other words a top 3 WR on a team) to be making more than a million. I think it is way more likely he is out of the league next year than him ever becoming a top 3 WR. I think he is smart taking the guaranteed money considering his health history.
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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#34 » by humanrefutation » Tue Oct 6, 2015 10:03 pm

trwi7 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/651495147092504576[/tweet]


They're about to face the team that's second in sacks so far.

May the good lord protect our savior, Aaron Rodgers, because I'm not sure if Barclay or Bakhtiari can do so on their own.
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Post#35 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Oct 6, 2015 11:21 pm

What makes you guys think the Packers offered that ultimatum? Saying they would screw over the rest of the team by signing an inferior player over what amounts to the league minimum is absurd.
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Post#36 » by HKPackFan » Wed Oct 7, 2015 12:08 am

ReasonablySober wrote:What makes you guys think the Packers offered that ultimatum? Saying they would screw over the rest of the team by signing an inferior player over what amounts to the league minimum is absurd.


I don't think he's inferior but I don't think any other team wants a kid on their 53 who has shown nothing more than an injury risk. (From the outside looking in).

The going rate for abby isn't stellar so he doesn't have a lot of leverage. There's a chance he could be a fringe 5 2nd or 53rd player the next couple of years so that should equate to a league minimum salary.
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Post#37 » by RRyder823 » Wed Oct 7, 2015 1:51 am

ReasonablySober wrote:What makes you guys think the Packers offered that ultimatum? Saying they would screw over the rest of the team by signing an inferior player over what amounts to the league minimum is absurd.


I guess I'd ask what makes you think Abby is worth more then a non guaranteed league minimum deal?

When a player has zero negotiating power and has shown nothing to go against the view that he has a propensity for being injured, (which is the reason he was only worth a low round draft pick when we took him), why offer him anything more then a minimum non guaranteed deal?

And on what basis can Abby say "No I won't sign that. I want more money"?

Practice squad players sign whatever contract is put in front of them if it means moving up to the active roster.
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Post#38 » by RRyder823 » Wed Oct 7, 2015 1:52 am

HKPackFan wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:What makes you guys think the Packers offered that ultimatum? Saying they would screw over the rest of the team by signing an inferior player over what amounts to the league minimum is absurd.


I don't think he's inferior but I don't think any other team wants a kid on their 53 who has shown nothing more than an injury risk. (From the outside looking in).

The going rate for abby isn't stellar so he doesn't have a lot of leverage. There's a chance he could be a fringe 5 2nd or 53rd player the next couple of years so that should equate to a league minimum salary.


It's not really from the outside looking in
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Post#39 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Oct 7, 2015 2:56 am

RRyder823 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:What makes you guys think the Packers offered that ultimatum? Saying they would screw over the rest of the team by signing an inferior player over what amounts to the league minimum is absurd.


I guess I'd ask what makes you think Abby is worth more then a non guaranteed league minimum deal?



He's not. The question is why would he sign that idiotic deal. He's good enough to get called up on a team with one of the deepest collections of WRs. Why sign a deal that locks you into three seasons of minimum salaries? There is literally nothing to gain.
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Re: Rams Leadup 

Post#40 » by rilamann » Wed Oct 7, 2015 3:22 am

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rilamann wrote:This is the type of game that would have had me nervous the past few seasons.Not this season with this Packer team.Rams are solid and they do have a good defense.I picked them as one of my playoff teams in the NFC this season but as far as winning at Lambeau,they're not on that level yet.

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Haha,well I did pick the Packers as my Super Bowl champ in preseason so I was pretty optimist going in.

My thing going into this season was that the NFC Championship game vs Seattle would change this team going forward,good or bad.I thought there would either be a black cloud effect from that game or that the game would change the team's approach and focus for the better.It's still early but so far it appears the latter might indeed be the case.

There is a focus and physicality to the defense that wasn't there before and Rodgers appears to be locked in on an even higher level than we've seen in the past.I think Mike McCarthy giving up the play calling had already proved to be a great move,McCarthy seems to have a smoother focus making in game decisions and having the team focused and ready to play.And Tom Clements play calling has been outstanding so far.Granted having Godgers at QB helps,but the play calling has been great so far.

Just my personal perception,but this team no longer strikes me as the type of team who would have the mentality of kicking FGs on the opponents 1 yard line in a big game.They're going to be who they are and you're going to have to stop them or deal with your defeat.No longer will they let an opponent dictate who they are and how they approach the game.

We'll see how the rest of the season plays out,but that's the ''mentality'' I am sensing from this team through the first 4 games.
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