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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:13 am
by MoreTrife
ReasonablySober wrote:
Chad34 wrote:What a fun exciting young team with no ceiling. Talent, more cap room, and great draft picks to add to it


Unfortunately the Packers have no cap room on the horizon. It's going to be bad for a few more years.


How is that possible, Rodgers can't be on the books anymore right? That frees up like $40 mill doesn't it? Is it just escalating contracts?

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:18 am
by ReasonablySober
MoreTrife wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Chad34 wrote:What a fun exciting young team with no ceiling. Talent, more cap room, and great draft picks to add to it


Unfortunately the Packers have no cap room on the horizon. It's going to be bad for a few more years.


How is that possible, Rodgers can't be on the books anymore right? That frees up like $40 mill doesn't it? Is it just escalating contracts?


It's all of their contracts. Gute is always adding void years and it means they're pushing money out every year. The bill always come due.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:33 am
by jute2003
MoreTrife wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Chad34 wrote:What a fun exciting young team with no ceiling. Talent, more cap room, and great draft picks to add to it


Unfortunately the Packers have no cap room on the horizon. It's going to be bad for a few more years.


How is that possible, Rodgers can't be on the books anymore right? That frees up like $40 mill doesn't it? Is it just escalating contracts?
The last few years of "all in" involved a bunch of kicking the can down the road. Its pretty common in the NFL for teams when they're trying to capitalize on a competitive window.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:36 am
by Matches Malone
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:36 am
by LikeABosh
ReasonablySober wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Unfortunately the Packers have no cap room on the horizon. It's going to be bad for a few more years.


We'll finally be able to get off that god awful Bakhtiari contract at least


In a few years?


You think we're gonna keep him next year? I think we cut him and eat the dead cap but save $20 million

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:42 am
by Matches Malone
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:48 am
by Daver
jute2003 wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Unfortunately the Packers have no cap room on the horizon. It's going to be bad for a few more years.


How is that possible, Rodgers can't be on the books anymore right? That frees up like $40 mill doesn't it? Is it just escalating contracts?
The last few years of "all in" involved a bunch of kicking the can down the road. Its pretty common in the NFL for teams when they're trying to capitalize on a competitive window.




Please correct me if im wrong but i read a article on cbs sportline thst said that the packers will cut DB which will free up 18 million n redo jones free up another 13 that eould give them 53 million under cap.It mentioned packers top 10 in available cap space

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:53 am
by Matches Malone
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:54 am
by coolhandluke121
LikeABosh wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
We'll finally be able to get off that god awful Bakhtiari contract at least


In a few years?


You think we're gonna keep him next year? I think we cut him and eat the dead cap but save $20 million


There's some sort of rule about not being able to cut him while he's injured unless he agrees to an injury settlement. In other words, depending on his health, they could owe him his entire remaining contract amount, and not just the dead cap amount that they would normally owe if he were released while healthy or traded.

I'm not sure how it's determined whether he's actually injured or not. It would seem that he has little incentive to try to return to the team. If he says he's healthy enough to play, then that means they can cut him and save $20m. If he says he's not healthy enough to play, it sounds like it could get messy. I'm not sure I fully understand this rule though.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:55 am
by MickeyDavis
We'd save about $21 million cutting Bakh ($19 dead cap vs $40 million cap) but if he's injured you'd have to negotiate something. Cutting Jones saves about $5 million ($12 million vs. $17 million) but I think they'll try to work something out to bring him back.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:58 am
by coolhandluke121
MickeyDavis wrote:We'd save about $21 million cutting Bakh ($19 dead cap vs $40 million cap) but if he's injured you'd have to negotiate something.


And what would be his incentive to negotiate? Maybe save the Packers a couple million and make up the difference plus a couple extra million by signing on with the Jets, with the mutual hope of being ready to play before they're out of the playoff race again?

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:59 am
by LikeABosh
coolhandluke121 wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
In a few years?


You think we're gonna keep him next year? I think we cut him and eat the dead cap but save $20 million


There's some sort of rule about not being able to cut him while he's injured unless he agrees to an injury settlement. In other words, depending on his health, they could owe him his entire remaining contract amount, and not just the dead cap amount that they would normally owe if he were released while healthy or traded.

I'm not sure how it's determined whether he's actually injured or not. It would seem that he has little incentive to try to return to the team. If he says he's healthy enough to play, then that means they can cut him and save $20m. If he says he's not healthy enough to play, it sounds like it could get messy. I'm not sure I fully understand this rule though.


Well he's good for one game a year. I'm sure there's a window there to cut him lol

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:03 am
by humanrefutation
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:39 am
by MVP2110
It was ugly at times but it felt like Green Bay was the better team by far today. Jordan Love absolutely balled out outside of the fumble & Matt Lafleur led this incredibly young team to the playoffs. It's hard not to be excited about what the future might hold for the Lafleur/Love combo. Onto Dallas!

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:41 am
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:02 am
by Matches Malone
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:43 am
by WeekapaugGroove
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Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:56 am
by ReasonablySober
Really, really have to hope the Bears do something incredibly stupid and pass on a QB in April.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:57 am
by ACGB
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"Green Bay's down years is .500, our down years is the first pick" is such a great own-goal quote.

Re: Game 17: Bears at Packers - 1/7/24 - 3:25 - CBS

Posted: Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:58 am
by MickeyDavis
Trade Fields, draft Caleb and reset the QB contract clock.