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Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:06 am
by Scoot McGroot
tfmiii wrote:thoughts on Jeff Green for David West?
obviously Jeff would have to prove the last few games were not a fluke, no problem as he cannot be dealt for a while.
Absolutely not. That contract on a guy that just hasn't been impressive really in any way during his career is not even a discussion.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:17 am
by Marvin Martian
Paul George for Marshon Brooks
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:35 am
by 8305
Marvin Martian wrote:Paul George for Marshon Brooks
Paul George isn't playing well right now and he may not be quite the player some thought him to be but, I still see a nice upside to him. In my mind George for Brooks would be selling low.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:34 pm
by chube
10000000% agree. Brooks is a fine player, but George even when he's off his game offensively can still contribute in other categories.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:47 am
by fuzzy1
Gremz wrote:We just can't sell Granger low at this point. I'd love to get a scoring guard, but I don't think giving Granger up will help us at this point. If anything we'd wait until next season where Granger is an expiring deal also.
I'd gladly move DJ + 1st + filler for Lou though.
Fair enough. If y'all start turning things around, you think that pick would be available for a shooter?
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:36 am
by chube
After watching the Clippers on League Pass recently, I'd loe to somehow get Eric Bledsoe. They already have (presumably) Chris Paul and Chauncey Billups locked in for a little while, so hopefully Bledsoe could become expendable.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:29 am
by Crowman
Can we trade DJ Augustin or Ian Mahinmi yet?
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 am
by Gremz
Crowman wrote:Can we trade DJ Augustin or Ian Mahinmi yet?
Not until December 15th (I think that's the date).
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:01 am
by Boneman2
I wanted to trade our 1st (Pendergraph) for him.
Right now I'd offer Hans & DJAugustin for him, they might bite.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:07 am
by Grang33r
Crowman wrote:Can we trade DJ Augustin or Ian Mahinmi yet?
Who in the world would trade for either of those guys?
Mahinmi is in year one of a 4yr, $16 million deal, and Augustin is just a few months away from trying to find Jonny Flynn's phone number so he can contact some Australian basketball league teams.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:39 pm
by 8305
Boston trades. Courtney Lee
Indiana trades. Gerald Green
Both guys are struggling with their new teams. Maybe a change of scenery would help both. Lee returning to his home town and Green going back to the team that drafted him and on which he enjoyed some early success.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:40 pm
by Jajwanda
Any feasible Pau trade?
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:06 am
by Grang33r
Jajwanda wrote:Any feasible Pau trade?
No.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:27 pm
by ChargerMan
What about a Granger/Augustin or Granger/Hansbourough if you guys want to do it earlier for Pau? It works int eh trade checker? Is Granger too valuable? I think a bigman lineup of Hibbert/Pau/West would work well, as Pau can take some load off Hibbert.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:51 pm
by Jake0890
ChargerMan wrote:What about a Granger/Augustin or Granger/Hansbourough if you guys want to do it earlier for Pau? It works int eh trade checker? Is Granger too valuable? I think a bigman lineup of Hibbert/Pau/West would work well, as Pau can take some load off Hibbert.
Never ever ever ever ever. Paus injuries are always a problem. He's getting old, and disappears come playoff time. I don't even want Pau, unless its a straight up Pendergraph-Gasol trade.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Sat Dec 1, 2012 12:14 pm
by Gremz
Pau's TK makes it really tough to take his contract on. There would be better avenues for us to pursue.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:36 am
by Grang33r
This from ESPN Insider
San Antonio Spurs acquire: David West
Indiana Pacers acquire: Tiago Splitter, Nando de Colo, Matt Bonner
Why it works for San Antonio: The window of opportunity is still open for the Spurs, but Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili aren't getting any younger and it's hard to say how long that window will remain open. That's why it'd make sense for San Antonio to trade a bit of its future for more of the present, and that's just what West is -- a free agent at the end of the season who can come in and help Duncan on the interior with scoring and rebounding.
Why it works for Indiana: If the Pacers get a healthy Granger back in February and finish out the regular season playing well, they almost certainly would keep West in the fold for a playoff run. If they fall out of the race, though, or aren't playing like a team that can contend for the title, they would be wise to deal the veteran power forward for young pieces who can be a part of their future. Two positions of need on this Indiana team in the seasons ahead are point guard and power forward, and that's why promising international players Splitter and de Colo would be an ideal package.
Gotta think if it came to that, the Pacers could do better then Splitter and de Colo.
Re: 2012/13 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2012 12:31 pm
by Jake0890
West is waaaay to important for us to get rid of him. He's our leader in points and rebounds.
Re: Offseason 2012 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:25 pm
by basketballwacko2
Grang33r wrote:Btw, i'm only asking theoretically obviously. But i am not saying trade West now. I am only saying, if we keep struggling, and are a lottery team come trade deadline. There really will be no sense in keeping West IMO if we're way out of the playoffs and at that point they might even hold off Granger for the rest of the season.
This is all worst case scenario...
I thnk at the trade deadline if we are 500 or worse we could make some moves. #1 is can we even resign David West if he wants to come back? If Danny is back and playing well at all I say move him at the deadline for smaller contracts and expiring deals, basically break up his $13-$14 million hit on the salary cap. If we can get some decent value for him and free up the room to sign West I'd move Granger.
Our biggest problem is we need a go to guy like Reggie Miller. Paul George may become that guy but he has a way to go still.
Re: Offseason 2012 Random Trade Thoughts
Posted: Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:32 pm
by basketballwacko2
8305 wrote:If the draft were today I'd settle for a competent player regardless the position.
If Hansbrough could return a respectable wing player I'd be game.
I could see Tyler to the Bobcats be a real option. He played for UNC.